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The first Journey album is a masterpiece

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Topic: The first Journey album is a masterpiece
Posted By: Gnik Nosmirc
Subject: The first Journey album is a masterpiece
Date Posted: June 02 2025 at 18:28
...and probably one of the most underrated crossover prog album of all time. Just listen to Topaz and In My Lonely Feeling. So amazing.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 02 2025 at 19:08
I agree. It's also a very underrated album too like you said. I kind of wonder what those who only know the Steve Perry version (or later) of the band would think of it.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 02 2025 at 19:15
Hi,

The best thing that JOURNEY ever did was have their music in one of the first LAZERIUM Shows.

The albums were nice, and they had some good things, but I'm not sure I would consider them "important" and being listed here as "Prog Related" is probably just fine.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 03 2025 at 03:07
I adore that first album , but already, by their sophomore, they were going downhill . Look To The Future still has three excellent tracks, but is filled with stuff that was the majority of their mediocre third album.
In some ways, it's little wonder that Columbia forced them to hire a popular singer (he wasn't at the time) or lose their well-paying recording contract.

The loss (firing actually) of Dunbar in a first step, than Rollie's departure (disgusted at the new musical direction, in which he had less space) made them the kings of "corporate rock" (even Jagger toured with them to observe the band's functioning)



what an ugly end

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Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: June 03 2025 at 10:21
I was a huge Santana fan when Greg Rolie and Neal Schon left the band and founded Journey, an exciting time. I have seen Journey in 1978 and 1980, I still consider their debut album as a top notch progrock effort, my favorite is Kohoutek, the band in its full splendor.


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 03 2025 at 12:40
I'll have to listen again. I'll give you that it's like a totally different group, and quite non commercial, but I don't remember liking it much more than their dreadful AOR work


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 03 2025 at 13:11
Neal Schon performed 3 songs from the 1st album ("Kohoutek", "Mystery Mountain", and "Of a Lifetime") on his 2019 "Journey Through Time" tour.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 03 2025 at 16:05
It's underrated, but hardly a prog rock masterpiece.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 21:16
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It's underrated, but hardly a prog rock masterpiece.



Maybe because it's more like jazz-rock?


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 05 2025 at 12:12
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It's underrated, but hardly a prog rock masterpiece.



Maybe because it's more like jazz-rock?


It's not a jazz-rock masterpiece, either. It's good, just lacks something to make it great. I realize I'm in the minority.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 05 2025 at 18:57
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It's underrated, but hardly a prog rock masterpiece.



Maybe because it's more like jazz-rock?


It's not a jazz-rock masterpiece, either. It's good, just lacks something to make it great. I realize I'm in the minority.


Nope, you're not in the minority. For whatever merits the album has, referring to it as a masterpiece is silly.

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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: June 06 2025 at 09:00
I think on a prog site, when people compare early Journey to later hits-Journey, it seems better than it is. I like it. "Of a Lifetime", "Kohoutek", "Topaz", "In My Lonely Feelings" are good songs. I just wouldn't call it a masterpiece.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 10 2025 at 16:06
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It's underrated, but hardly a prog rock masterpiece.



Maybe because it's more like jazz-rock?


It's not a jazz-rock masterpiece, either. It's good, just lacks something to make it great. I realize I'm in the minority.


Nope, you're not in the minority. For whatever merits the album has, referring to it as a masterpiece is silly.



Well, compared to all or at least most of their other albums it is but maybe that's not saying much.


Posted By: Themistocles
Date Posted: July 25 2025 at 18:36
Had never listened to it in totality before so I thought Id use this as as good an excuse as any.   Its good. definitely underrated. The drums and guitars are excellent performances but dont sparkle like on their higher budget productions.

Maybe not a masterpiece but rather good.   The songwriting is a bit mired in tropes rather than owning tropes like they later did. These were professional musicians looking to punch a ticket and it sounds like it, perhaps following the parade too much.     I like Kohoutek... it shows signs of greatness. Topaz too. The cover art is hecklarious.

Still very good and they grew.

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