Artists on PA that you love, with no 4* ratings
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Topic: Artists on PA that you love, with no 4* ratings
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Subject: Artists on PA that you love, with no 4* ratings
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:31
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Inspired by another thread! It Bites are one of my very favourite bands, I love all 5 of their albums, but none rate above 4 on PA. Anyone else have a similar favourite act?☺️ ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
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Posted By: Starjet
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:39
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That's weird; I saw the post's Topic and I thought immediately "that's one I can participate in; I will say It Bites" And I had listened to Thankyou (sic.) and Good night this morning. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:46
| Todd Rundgren has 28 studio albums and not one is rated 4 stars or higher. Booo |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:51
That is odd. INITIATION is a 4 star album in my opinion. His debut album as well. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: Starjet
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:56
| I would add another 4-piece from the north-west of England: 10CC; their 6 classic albums from 1973 to 1978 are all rated under 4*. |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 06:59
 ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 07:25
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I've got a few. Here are 10 of them: - AGENTS OF MERCY - ARCHIVE - TOMAS BODIN - CARMEN - JAGA JAZZIST - MAGIC PIE - NICK MAGNUS - PAATOS - TOXIC SMILE - WHITE WILLOW I'm pretty shocked, to be honest! 
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 07:26
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Knifeworld & Alamaailman Vasarat seem to be the only ones of mine that would qualify. Uz Jsme Doma would make the list if their last 3 albums didn't all have 5.0 star ratings with a grand total of 4 votes across all 3 albums!! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 07:45
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I think the only >3 stars given to Senmuth were from me, so it probably applies... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 08:02
Hi, I think the albums have too much funny stuff for PA folks to enjoy. But the humor is not the American TV style of needing the laugh track because it isn't funny at all! It's too fake. Or maybe we don't want any Mandy stories that are depressing. Or worse ... too many folks here probably don't like I'm not in love! A love song can not be progressive! Can you imagine a PA Admin dancing to the Wall Street Shuffle? I think we would laugh so hard and then cry! Too many Baron Samedi's here.  
Carmen is an oddity. A band from LA that does Spanish music better than some of their own bands, and mix rock into it beautifully. Sadly, for the PA standards, this is a very tough listen, because it has some serious Spanish touches in it, that drive the music ... and all you have to hear is Bullerias, and admit that is pretty hot stuff ... except for Progressive folks ... progressive folks scream with guitars, not feet and castanets!!!!! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 08:13
All of Barclay James Harvest's 21 studio albums are rated less than 4 stars, but there are none I dislike. 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 08:21
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there's a few for me... BJH up to XII for sure Beggar's Opera's first 3 should have at least a 4 star for me. Curved Air... Phantasmagoria, maybe? ELO's first four... none are 4 star? Greenslade Grobschnitt Triumvirat just a few I can think of? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 08:25
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Pedro what the hell are you talking about calling out the admins? For the record I have danced to Wall Street Shuffle and like I'm Not In Love. Less of the personal attacks please. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 12:07
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It Bites Agents of Mercy Nick Magnus Yeah, all good suggestions! My ears dig it. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 13:04
| Not one of SAGA's studio albums is rated above 4.00, which is a crying shame, because I consider 4 of their first 5 to be 5-star masterpieces! |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 13:10
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Nightwish 🙂 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 13:53
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First of all: Tortoise - Kraftwerk - Electric Light Orchestra... Also: Elephant9, Dungen, Cosmic Jokers, Faust, Cluster... |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 16:50
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There's a couple. https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1331" rel="nofollow - Jonesy for example. ------------- 
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 16:56
My God yes!! I saw his first Utopia tour and was blown away! "City in my head....Utopia..."  ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 17:58
and Bo Hansson as well  ... what's not to like?
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: June 18 2025 at 22:27
| I was surprised about Jaga Jazzist, but dog-gonnit, they ain't got one! Most of their albums are at least a 4 for me. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 04:11
the wrong crowd here for Nightwish appreciation; they were a highly contentious addition at the time and I don't think that feeling has altered much... try over at Metal Storm for a more representative set of ratings. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 04:18
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Glass Hammer with a 23 studio album run spanning over 30 years are totally 'unbeatable' in this regards. I stand up for their cause and on a good day with a following wind would put them in my top ten bands of all time. Currently listening to Arise (3.78). Skallagrim; Into The Breach (3.99) is their current highest rated album. PAH! |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 07:54
Ditto on Triumvirat. Their first 4 albums are classics of symphonic prog IMO, but no 4-stars... |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 08:09
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 03:26
I suppose I was thinking 'proper' prog and also bands/artists that are well reviewed and acknowledged within the community (Rundgren is more known as a producer). I know I'm making up the rules here but hey ho
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 04:16
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Alquin. Mountain Queen is top 10 for me and Best Kept Secret is obviously underrated. ------------- 
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Posted By: BasedProgger
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 08:36
| Happy the Man's highest rated studio album is Crafty Hands (3.91) then their self-titled debut (3.85). |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 23:46
| ^WHICH IS A CRIME. THOSE ARE INCREDIBLE ALBUMS. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 23:50
At least they're very close to 4 stars. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 02:18
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I'm not surprised with any of the bands mentionned so far... and IMHO deservedly so. Either those artistes mentionned are prog-related or second knives, and I haven't found scandalous they didn't score an album above 4 I was first puzzled at Grobschnitt's presence in a list on page 1, but realized that Solar Music LIVE (not studio) , though I love that debut album as a 5  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 03:07
I'm not surprised Kraftwerk or Tortoise (etc...) hasn't got any four star rated albums here at PA, but I love both and rate quite a few of their albums a four - or more. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 03:59
Well I read the OP as a bit of a rant and some answers have promised to skew the rating averages - probably by overrating the albums. IMHO (again), the forum is way tooo focused on ratings and top lists. . ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 05:15
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^Yeah I know but I'm seen worse. Those RYM-kids are literally obsessed with ratings. "If the latest Swans-album drop below 4.00 I'm gonna kill myself!" I just enter these conversations while procrastinating to say "hey everyone I like Kraftwerk a lot". That's all. The ratings are irrelevant to me - and for Kraftwerk. That said, high ratings/high praise (on RYM) may pique my interest to some album or band I'm unfamiliar with. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 07:33
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Hi, The one band that I think deserves to be here, is an oddball one .. The Edgar Broughton Band. Not totally progressive, but quite different, and a band that has had a lot of attention in the area of politics, however, they also had quite an interesting side of spirituality. Not sure that even Edgar would care to think of his band as progressive" but at least one album (OORA) is quite experimental, and really special of an album, in that there is very little in it that is "conventional" or fits a design of some kind. That alone, makes it progressive, lest we think that three things are required to call it "progressive". It is a tough listen, because at the start, it was a very busy band on various demonstrations and parties, with the early attention on war ... with "Out Demons Out" which is fairly well known and they have several versions of this from the regular song to the 20+ minutes of it in concert. The one thing that is not found here, is the "pretentiousness" of it being something or other. And on that alone, it is worth some attention. At least, you know the anger is real, and not fake and forgotten the next day. But I'm guessing that most folks would not give this band a 2 rating because it does not bother with ideas about music. Its lyrics are much more important several times, and this might turn off some progressive folks, as you won't find crap stories here. The band was related/friends to The Pink Fairies and Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 11:52
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 13:31
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I think I could make a bigger list than this, but time only permits a short search. All of these have at least one album in their discography worthy of four or more stars: Art Bears Emmanuel Booz Cheeto's Magazine Deadly Orgone Radiation Deadwood Forest Devil Doll Druid Electric Light Orchestra ExCubus Glass Hammer Greenslade Happy Family High Wheel Little Atlas Magellan Morse Code Novalis Paatos Matthew Parmenter Rainbow Theatre Red Sand Ring Van Möbius Runaway Totem Sc'ööf Scherzoo Sebastian Hardie Triumvirat The Underground Railroad Valinor's Tree Versus X White Willow Willowglass Richard Wright Yang Zombi ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 13:38
| Headspace have two studio albums and one EP and all three of these releases have average ratings below 4.00 |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 21 2025 at 14:13
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Todd, to be sure. Grobschnitt, Triumvirat, and Paatos certainly have a right to a four star or two (rockpommel, dimple, timeloss, respectively), not to mention Jaga Jazzist and Art Bears. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 22 2025 at 03:16
Even stranger to me is that the second album is rated below the first. It was an excellent short lived project featuring Adam Wakeman, Damien Wilson (now in Arena) and Lee Pomeroy. Deserved more. |