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Topic: Your top 7 pre-1990s Eastern European albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your top 7 pre-1990s Eastern European albums?
Date Posted: July 23 2025 at 11:58

We're talking here about progressive music, and my top 7 is something like (chronologically):

                 Marek Grechuta & Anawa (PL) - Korowód   (1971)
                 Kornelyans (Yug) - Not an Ordinary Life (1974)
                 Phoenix (Rom) - Cantofabule (1975)
                 SBB (PL) - 2: Nowy Horyzont     (1975)
                 Niemen Aerolit (PL) - s/t   (1975)
                 Fermáta (CSR) - Pieseň z Hôľ (1977)
                 Solaris (Hun) - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984)


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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 23 2025 at 18:22
One album per band.


Riverside- "I.D.Enity" Poland 2023
Oblimy Doschu- "Son-" Ukraine 2017
"SBB- "Karlstad Live"- Poland 2001 (from 1975 concert)
Pesniary- "Gusliar"- Belarus 1979
Deposed King- "One Man's Grief"- Hungary 2023
Roz Vitalis- "The Hidden Man of the Heart"- Russia 2018
Yesterdays- "Saint-Exupéry álma" = Romania 2022



Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 23 2025 at 19:34
I think I only own 2 that meet the criteria

Vezhlivy Otkaz - s/t (89)
Igra Staklenih Perli - s/t (79)

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 02:42
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

One album per band.


Riverside- "I.D.Enity" Poland 2023
Oblimy Doschu- "Son-" Ukraine 2017
"SBB- "Karlstad Live"- Poland 2001 (from 1975 concert)
Pesniary- "Gusliar"- Belarus 1979
Deposed King- "One Man's Grief"- Hungary 2023
Roz Vitalis- "The Hidden Man of the Heart"- Russia 2018
Yesterdays- "Saint-Exupéry álma" = Romania 2022

"Pre-1990s." I think that the OP wanted to imply the period when Yugoslavia, East Germany and the USSR still existed. :P From your list, only the SBB and Piesniary albums count.

Besides, small correction. Yesterdays is not a Romanian band. It's a Hungarian band 50/50 based in Romania and Hungary.

Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 04:03

Didn't we do a thread like this a couple of years back?   

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


One more, important for me to mention:

Fermáta (CSR) - Pieseň z Hôľ (1977)


Surprised you only mention them as an afterthought

In the same line: Radim Hladik & Blue/Modry Effekt.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 04:53
I know I've forgotten some, but these are all great:

Igor Wakhévitch - Docteur Faust (1971) Russia - seems he's French:)
Orkiestra Ósmego Dnia - Czekając na kometę Halleya (1985) Poland
Sergei Djokanov - The Green Desert (1985) Bulgaria
Бумеранг [Boomerang] - St. (1983) Kazakhstan
Kolinda - Kolinda 2 (1977) Hungary
Osjan - Roots (1983) Poland
Gonda Sextet – Sámánének (1976) Hungary
Gunesh - Looking at the Earth (1984) Turkmenistan



Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 05:26
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I know I've forgotten some, but these are all great:
Igor Wakhévitch - Docteur Faust (1971) Russia
Is he Russian? The bio on this site says:
Igor Boris Wakhévitch - Born May 12th, 1948 (Gassin-Saint Tropez, France)

What's more, a while ago I tried looking up information about Igor Wakhevitch's roots due to his familiar sounding Slavic last name, hoping he might be of Polish heritage, but I couldn't find anything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 05:50
^No I'm wrong. I checked all the others, but that was "from memory":) - I thought he had just moved to France. But It's Igor's father who was born in Russia. I'll find an alternative.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 07:25
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

...I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7....

I would certainly find it as interesting.



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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 07:50
The only one in my collection that meets the criteria is:

V'73 "Seven Pieces for Keyboards, Bass and Drums" - 1973 Hungary

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 08:04
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

One album per band.


Riverside- "I.D.Enity" Poland 2023
Oblimy Doschu- "Son-" Ukraine 2017
"SBB- "Karlstad Live"- Poland 2001 (from 1975 concert)
Pesniary- "Gusliar"- Belarus 1979
Deposed King- "One Man's Grief"- Hungary 2023
Roz Vitalis- "The Hidden Man of the Heart"- Russia 2018
Yesterdays- "Saint-Exupéry álma" = Romania 2022

"Pre-1990s." I think that the OP wanted to imply the period when Yugoslavia, East Germany and the USSR still existed. :P From your list, only the SBB and Piesniary albums count.

Besides, small correction. Yesterdays is not a Romanian band. It's a Hungarian band 50/50 based in Romania and Hungary.

Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 09:43
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)
Is Greece Eastern Europe though?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 09:48
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)
Is Greece Eastern Europe though?


Eastern?! No.
South-east?! yes. I don't know if it counts. I would not put them in a list like this though (when or if i make a list here).


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 10:38
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)
Is Greece Eastern Europe though?


Eastern?! No.
South-east?! yes. I don't know if it counts. I would not put them in a list like this though (when or if i make a list here).
I think it is absolutely Eastern Europe. Not just geographically, but the Greek cultrural sphere heavily influenced the area that today is known as Eastern Europe. Another thing that links Greece with the rest of Eastern Europe is the shared legacy of the Christian Orthodox Church.

With that being said, I wouldn't include countries such as Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan, as they are clearly part of Central Asia.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 10:49
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

   I wouldn't include countries such as Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan, as they are clearly part of Central Asia.

I think some people might think they're in Europe because they were part of the former USSR, but (obviously) just a part of USSR territory was European.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 10:52
^I'm wrong about those - as I included countries once part of Sovjet Union without really thinking about it. In regards to Greece you'll get a differnt answer depending on where you're from - and where you read. Where I live Greece is most defenatly seem as part of Western Europe.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 10:52
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Anyway, I'm not in the right mood to list a top 7, so I'm gonna list just one album, which I think is pretty overlooked, whenever the Eastern Europe topic comes up.

Iraklis - Se Allous Kosmous (Greece, 1976)
Is Greece Eastern Europe though?


Eastern?! No.
South-east?! yes. I don't know if it counts. I would not put them in a list like this though (when or if i make a list here).
I think it is absolutely Eastern Europe. Not just geographically, but the Greek cultrural sphere heavily influenced the area that today is known as Eastern Europe. Another thing that links Greece with the rest of Eastern Europe is the shared legacy of the Christian Orthodox Church.



I think we're supposed to pick our examples geographically. And by this criterion, Greece is South-Eastern.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 11:19
Greece is politically very Westernized. In Poland, where I live most people I've met, consider their homeland a Western European or Central European country. :p

BTW, I think that in the case of Europe, south-eastern counts as eastern. It's not like the case of East Asia vs. Southeast Asia, where you operate at much much broader areas of land and sphere of influence gaps.

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 11:41
I think a lot of the confusion over what is and isn't Eastern Europe has much to do with the remnants of Cold War politics from the 20th century. Here in the U.S., countries that were in the USSR's "sphere of influence" were often just called Eastern Europe. Hence, that's why we never thought of Greece being a part of that.

Geographically it makes no sense as a lot of those countries would either be in Western Europe or Central Europe. My own rough estimate of where the midpoint between east and west would be, kind of looks like it would pass through the Baltics and western Ukraine. I'm probably wrong since Europe is such a complicated land mass with peninsulas popping out all over the place.



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 11:46
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

   I wouldn't include countries such as Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan, as they are clearly part of Central Asia.

Good point, so I remove Gunesh from my list.



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 11:52
^ Especially when it's about music of the (near)past, I tend to think music from "behind the iron curtain". I won't bother changing the bands I selected. I'm fine with my misunderstanding as I think it's more interesting that way.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 11:52
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

One more, important for me to mention:

Fermáta (CSR) - Pieseň z Hôľ (1977)

Surprised you only mention them as an afterthought

I didn't include them in my top 7, but I do now instead of Gunesh.



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 12:06

I've used the pre-1990s political definition of "Eastern European", so whatever think of it geographically or regarding cultural influences, I haven't included Greece.






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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 24 2025 at 12:37
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Didn't we do a thread like this a couple of years back?   

That was almost 4 years ago, and there are a couple of very significant differences in the OPs of these two threads.



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 27 2025 at 05:40

^ The previous thread was for all favourites and not just top 7, all-time and not just pre-1990s, and it didn't include Poland, while it included Greece in any case.

Anyway, this is what you listed then with relevance for this thread:

11           Fermata              Fermata              Svk        1975     
11           Fermata              Huascaran          Svk        1977     
11           Flamengo           Kure V Hodinkach           Cze        1972     
11           Modry Efekt      Modry Efekt & Radim Hladik      Cze        1975     
11           Modry Efekt      Svitanie               Cze        1977     
11           Igra Staklenih Perli - Igra Staklenih Perli    Yug     1979
11           Plastic People of the Universe Kolejnice Duni (Rails Rumble) (1977-1982)    Cze       
11           Szabo, Gabor    Macho    Hun      1975   

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 27 2025 at 08:10
1. SBB - Pamiec (1976)
2. Michal Urbaniak's FUSION - Atma (1974)
3. FERMÁTA - Pieseň z hôľ (Songs from Ridges) (1976)
4. LABORATORIUM - Modern Pentathalon (1976)
5. JAZZ Q - Pozorovatelna (The Watchtower) (1973)
6. JUKKA HAURU - Episode (1975)
7. FERMATA - Huascaran (1977)

Honorable Mentions:
JUKKA TOLONEN - The Hook (1974) (recorded in Sweden)
POP WORKSHOP - Vol. 1 (1973) (recorded in Sweden)
Michal Urbaniak's CONSTELLATION - Super Constellation (1973) (recorded in Germany)
MICHAL URBANIAK - Paratyphys B (1973) (recorded in Germany)
SOLARIS - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984)
SBB - Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem (Memento with a Banal Triptych) (1981)
MODRY EFEKT - Modry Efekt & Radim Hladik (1975)
MODRY EFEKT - Svitanie (1977)


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 28 2025 at 04:19

I don't understand why to include a couple of Finns, but otherwise very nice, Drew, thank you.

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 06:16
Finland just seems . . . out there! FAR east!

Though I'm pleased to see JazzMusicArchives coming to life, except for a very few number of bands (Mahavishnu, RTF, SBB, Fermáta) it seems that there is a downplay or negation on PA with regards to the influence Jazz and Jazz-Rock Fusion played on the development and push toward progressive rock! I just had to chime in. My way of trolling, I guess. Je m'excuse!


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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 09:01
Jazz Q - Symbiosis
Imants Kalniņš - Dzeguzes Balss

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 09:07
I'm hoping at some point to check out East and Omega in particular. There's actually quite a bit out there even from this era.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 09:19
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Finland just seems . . . out there! FAR east!

Though I'm pleased to see JazzMusicArchives coming to life, except for a very few number of bands (Mahavishnu, RTF, SBB, Fermáta) it seems that there is a downplay or negation on PA with regards to the influence Jazz and Jazz-Rock Fusion played on the development and push toward progressive rock! I just had to chime in. My way of trolling, I guess. Je m'excuse!

My OP asks for progressive music, so Jazz Rock/Fusion is very fine with me.

Edit: But you haven't maybe listed your top 7.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 09:52

^ I can also wonder if not the pre-1990s Eastern Europe was stronger in Jazz Rock/Fusion than Progressive Rock.

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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: July 29 2025 at 10:32
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm hoping at some point to check out East and Omega in particular. There's actually quite a bit out there even from this era.


Omega - The Girl With The Pearl's Hair (org. "Gyöngyhajú lány")
https://youtu.be/SNLsmh_otYs

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