similar bands to early King Crimson
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Topic: similar bands to early King Crimson
Posted By: BebieM
Subject: similar bands to early King Crimson
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:40
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Hey guys, while a lot of bands seem to be influenced by the early KC, I can't find any that really sound similar to them. I'm talking about the period from ITCOTCK to Islands. Any recommendations? |
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Posted By: krapulax
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:42
| try premiata forneria marconi. |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 13:09
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Try -Peter Sinfield -McDonald & Giles or also -Giles, Giles and Fripp. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 15:51
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I would like to advise the following bands: Sweden: Anekdoten (especially Vemod) Japan: Bi Kyo Ran (their guitarplayer is the Japanese Fripp), Providence (their first), Outer Lmits France: Terpandre, Shylock Italy: PFM (their first four) Argentina: Redd Spain: Coto En Pel Check out the Prog Archives reviews! |
Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 16:47
| Wow I've never been able to find bands that I felt matched the sound of KC in their early hay-day albums. Somehow I always felt it wasn't possible, especially with the new technology that we possess in these modern times. For instance, I really doubt someone can truly make an album that sounds exactly like Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band...everything's too digital these days. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 16:47
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Wobbler have lots in common with the starless and red period |
Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 22:19
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The song Dark Corners-Bozzio Levin Stevens sounds like something that would have been on Red. Steve Stevens has some similarities to Fripp on that album. ------------- I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon... |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 05:56
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This topic was almost going unnoticed... I don't understand why very few took pains to suggest similar bands to almost everyones favorite! (I'm excluding you, Bob Greece! I want to share my experience: I really loved the musical style of '69-'72 King Crimson, jazzy drums, delightful flute melodies popping up every now and then, heavy emphasis on Mellotron (though played very slow), and perfect use of reeds... Not to mention master Fripp's masterfully played guitar. Last year I was looking for something similar to these, especially a symphonic band that played the hell out of saxophone! (I really hated sax before KC and several other bands I came to love later) I had a limited mp3 collection then, so I decided to check on once again a band I overlooked for some time. I decided to give a try to Van der Graaf Generator, just recalling the delightful sax and organ played on Darkness (then I had the Box version only). I was sure there was something similar to King Crimson, especially in H to He and Pawn Hearts albums, where master Fripp himself made appearance! Bingo! David Jackson's sax is what made me appreciate the use of that strange instrument in Progressive Rock... Now I look back to the past and really can't figure out why I overlooked this magnificent band. I say every now and then that VdGG is an acquired taste, but my experience of falling in love with their music is totally an X-file! I strongly recommend you to give a try. Especially after the first two albums (which are a transition from pure psychedelia/folk towards complex symphonic rock with somewhat jazzy textures), it is as though VdGG picked up where KC actually left! Pawn Hearts, Still Life and World Record are absolute masterpieces! And some Peter Hammill solo albums continue the same approach (though most of the time he is really "solo"): I believe Nadir's Big Chance (despite it's shorter song structure and sort of proto-punk style) is also similar, at least in the way sax is played. A couple of individual tracks (The Black Room in Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night -which was intended as a VdGG piece initially- and Gog-Magog in In Camera albums) also resemble King Crimson's early period, especially with regard to experimentalism which was evident in Moonchild in Court and The Devil's Triangle in Poseidon... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
)Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 06:22
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I second the band recommendation, but isn't ANEKDOTEN influenced a bit more by the KING CIRIMSON's Wetton-Cross era? They used to play "Circus" on their early gigs though.
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erik neuteboom wrote:Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 06:23
Anekdoten is more inspired by darker King Crimson like RED...just like the mars volta that is alot better  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: honganji
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:22
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Madoromi Madoromi is known that it played KC's songs. There are 2 live albums but the recorded tracks are 1973-1974 songs. However Madoromi played early Crimson's songs in the end of Madoromi's era. Many progressive rock fans may already know Madoromi became Bi Kyo Ran in the end of 1970s and still active. Latest album is Sakigake !! Cromartie High School Original Soundtrack 2 (not listed on Prog Archives data base). |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:28
^ Never heard of 'em! So did they have their own compositons too? Is it a Japanes band? 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:32
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Gnidrolog. ...kinda. Worth a shot, anyhow. |
Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:08
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ITCOTCK infuses most of the songs on Genesis' Trespass album. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:19
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^ Yep, similar soundwalls on 'em! Lot's of acoustic guitars and mellotrons.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:31
Excellent call Erik, (indeed Bi Kyo Ran, have released one covers album of KC material - although the last album by BKR, a late 90's release, might be considered a link between modernday KC and bands like Tool). A KC freak, once suggested to me a couple of late 80's/ealry 90's Hungarian bands as well - but names have faded from my memory.
I would add a copy of covers/tribute albums on which the artists have gone some distance to take the original KC tunes and through good arrangements and move the music in new directions: The Letters: An Unconventional Italian Guide To King Crimson a triple CD tribute by Italian bands, very good although (to me) most musicians are unknown. Crimson Jazz Trio (CJ3) : King Crimson Song Book Volume 1 - out later this month fro Voiceprint. Ian Wallace developing KC's jazz creditials. And a delightful one off on Theo Travis's 2004 album Earth To Ether, of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Which obviously brings me round to 21st Century Schizoid Band's couple CDs and DVD, i.e. former members of KC plus Jakko of the 70's jazz rock band 64 Spoons, usually providing guitar and most lead vocals. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 11:45
| There was a Welsh 70s band called Jonesy that have many of the attributes of early King Crimson. I have their second album 'Keeping Up', which I enjoy hugely. |
Posted By: honganji
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:09
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Madoromi is a Japanese group. When they were active in 1970s, they could not make any albums. Madoromi's 2 albums were released in 1990s and 2000s (recorded in 1976 & 1977). 1990s live album was released by Belle Antique. 2000s live albums was released by Gohan Records. Fortunately I could find this CD in my room, I write track list here. 1.Jokei 5 (îŒi5) 2.The Great Deciever 3.Tape 4.Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part One 5.One More Red Nightmare 6.Improv 7.Easy Money 8.The Talking Drum 9.Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part Two Album title is "The Hardest Live '76". Released on October 31, 2002 Track 2,4,5,7,8,9 are Crimson number. Musicians are: Suma Kunio - {––M—Y (guitar, lead vocal), Nagasawa Masaaki@- ’·‘ò³º (drums), Yoshinaga Shinji - ‹g‰iL“ñ (bass, vocal). Madoromi had an aim to play the Crimson's music, so there're small original compositions in comparison with latter name Bi Kyo Ran. Bi Kyo Ran's latest album Sakigake ~ OST 2 was released in 2004. It was composed for TV animation. Of course there's Sakigake ~ OST. Both Sakigake ~ were released by Lantis label. |
Posted By: gabbel ratchett
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 01:44
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Don't forget the US band St. Elmo's Fire! ------------- dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 01:48
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^^ Thanks for the info!
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 03:26
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Listen to album David Cross album Exiles and you will see which way could early KC goes after Larks tongues. On this masterpiece album the leading singers are Wetton, and Peter Hammil (on two songs). Guitar is played by Fripp. If you wanted to know how would be KC with Peter Hammil here is the answer Trully masterpiece!
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