Prog musicians,alcohol & drugs
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Topic: Prog musicians,alcohol & drugs
Posted By: Genesisprog
Subject: Prog musicians,alcohol & drugs
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 08:48
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Rick wakeman was a drunk .That`s a fact. Who else do you know? ------------- Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all ! |
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 08:54
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Charming! If you are looking for a list of prog musicians who have indulged in various intoxicating susbtances of one sort or another, it may be a long one....and ultimately rather pointless!?  |
Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:07
Maybe  ------------- Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all ! |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:24
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There was a very similar thread called "prog and drugs." You can do a search
and pull it up if you want. People that were substance free were Zappa and Ian Anderson. Gabriel also admitted to not using any substances (having a slight interest in acid but never did it.) He also admitted that he had smoked weed once and had special brownies at another time to see if it would do anything artistically and it did not. I can't remember what interview he said this in but he did. It's funny to think that Gabriel was substance free. I always would have thought he was on drugs due to all the insane voices and roll playing he used to do. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:31
Yes, and their music started to decline when Wakeman begun to drink more and more while the others were still on Weed. It's like Morrisson who destroyed himself with alcohol addiction, whereas at the beggining he was on psychedelic "drugs". |
Genesisprog wrote:Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:35
| I'm a drunk. |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:37
Very good point. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 10:47
Well if the subject of Prog and Drugs comes up you cant forget to mention Hawkwind ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:02
What...d'ya mean to suggest Hawkwind indulged (allegedly)?! Surely not.....  |
Posted By: Toby
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:04
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damn you for stealing my thoughts lol. There is nothing wrong with drinking, making an ass of yourself can be quite liberating by the looks of it. I do not have the experience to comment on the drugs side |
Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:13
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Ah good old Hawkwind. Saw them at Newcastle City Hall probably mid 70's and they were, as was their wont, very late on stage. Dave Brock apologised for the delay, blaming the police who had been searching them for drugs. "They found nothing!" he said to loud cheers, and there's Nik Turner standing next to him grinning all over his face and pointing down the bell of his sax
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Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:38
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Careful With That Axe, Eugene.....Wuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! well i mean.....oh, i don't know... |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:05
But Alcohol IS a DRUG (and a hard one moreover)!!! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:28
How so? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:37
? Alcohol is a drug because it is physically addicting and more socially accepted than all other drugs. It isn't a big deal to get drunk at a wedding or a family gathering but I'm sure if you busted out a bowl and started smoking up, it would be frowned upon (in the majority of cases.) I'm not saying weed is good (because I think the opposite) but by no means is alcohol any better. It is just more socially accepted so it's in all of our heads that it is better for us. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:40
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Any dictionary definition of drugs will apply to alcohol, tobacco and caffeine. I'm happily free of 2/3 of that list
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Posted By: Toby
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 12:49
That is true, however when many people speak about drugs, alcohol is rarely mentioned and substances like heroin, cocaine etc etc are. I was speaking in this context. Anyway there is no need to be so pedantic lol |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 17:41
| The floyd boys, but Rick, did acid and weed. You can see in the live in pompeii video, when they are interviewing Gilmour he looks like a chinese man who has conjuntivitis. |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 18:30
| hawkwind went overboard with drugs, they prsactically did it too much, resulting in bad show "sometimes!" and stupid quarrewls and i think a band memebr or 2 going crazy. They diddrugs none stop. For crying out Loud they let a compleyty naked lady called stacy dance for them on stage while they played while they were tripped up on acid, and speed and ect etc... |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 23:52
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Fragile DT wrote:
I know Peter hates drugs (He said he almost died with the brownies) and I'm sure he didn't used drugs for his funny voices, but I'm almost sure there's some helium involved in parts of Suppers' Ready. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 23:56
Yeah I know, I was saying initially (before I knew about Gabriel's history with drugs) I thought he was on some sort of drug. After finding out the truth I gained a lot more respect for him. I just knew a lot of people that know I listen to Genesis and think that they are (especially Gabriel) a big drug band, due to Gabriel's antics. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 00:05
I don't know if this is accurate, Rick Wakeman said on an interview had a heart attack at the age of 26 (1975) and he was forbidden to drink, almost sure he left alcohoil in that year. So his music started to decline after he left alcohol to be precise he composed, Myths and Legends (In the hospital while recovering) Criminal Record and No Earthly Connection with no alcohol, both still great albums. But his best album Six Wives was heavilly wet by alcohol. Am I right, or did he started to drink again after his early heart attack (Vey dangerous at younger ages)? Some Wakeman fan please give us some light, not important but I'm curious. Iván -------------
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Posted By: VanBuren
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 01:15
| so gabriel being mentioned, what about the rest of genesis? any info? I'm aware that Hackett has a bonus track on to watch the storms called something along the lines of "marijauna, assassin of youth" so that must say something. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 01:22
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I read there are some nice photos somewhere in the net of Phil Collins and Steve Hackett lighting some suspicious cigarettes Iván -------------
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on the back of the stage. But that was many decades ago. Posted By: VanBuren
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 01:24
| maybe i'll start a new post to see if i can find any more info on this, I'm rather curious |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:36
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Actually they all did acid.. Barrett everyday, Waters had a few experiences with it in the early years, so did Gilmour, you mentionned Rick there. And there's Mason as well... God come on... A LOT of people (ESPECIALLY IN MUSIC!!!) did acid during those years, it is clleaaar... There was a huge drug movement. |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:26
| I meant they all took acid and smoked weed, except for Rick who never did anything but a shot of heroine before one concert, I heard it on an interview. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:33
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oh ok ok... now i see.. it wasnt very clear yea Rick looked like a pretty clean dude. |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:35
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No Rick said that he did try marijuana before the concert and couldn't play a note so he didn't try it agian. He also admitted to trying acid once and loved it and a second time and hated it so he never did it agian. This was all probably during the 60's when he experimented. Mason claims that at some time or another they all experimented some way with drugs. P.S. One small funny note, Look on the cover of an album called, Smoking Blues, by Pink Floyd, it's one of their live albums, thier best also. Take a look at Rick's left hand, I think that would explain the look on his face.
------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart Its astart What we need is awareness we cant get careless Mental self defensive fitness Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be |
