New symphonic rock overlooked on PA?
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Topic: New symphonic rock overlooked on PA?
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Subject: New symphonic rock overlooked on PA?
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 06:28
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Hello fellow progheads. Early 2004 I started to write for Prog Archives, first with biographies and then reviews. Two years later I notice that the last half year Prog Archives is flooded with reviews about many different progrock styles but very few about new symphonic rock What is your opinion about my statement that the new symphonic rock bands got too little attention? And what could be the reasons? |
. As a symphonic rock specialist I am very concerned about his development. I just checked the number of reviews about Italian Ubi Maoir and La Maschera Di Cera, USA Salem Hill, Skandinavian Flagship, Canadian Red Sand, Japanese Interpose, French Nemo, UK Willowglass and Spanish Senogul, if you compare that with the attention for prog metal bands, the symphonic rock dinosaurs from The Seventies and bands like The Beatles and Queen, it is very poor Replies:
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 06:46
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I think it's because new symphonic rock bands are lesser known than legends of the 70s and prog metal bands (popular among younger listeners). ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:07
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I agree that these bands do get less atention than others, and it is too bad since there are very good bands in this genre. I have no idea why, since I do not ignore them at all. In another thread called I Recommend... I already recommended Interpose, Overhead, Moon Safari, Amagrama etc. and Someone else recommended IZZ and I will recommend there Salem Hill, and a Maschera Di Cera, Red Sand and Nemo. I don't write reviews for personal reasons, so I substitute that by this thread. But more reviews and more threads like this one and the other one I mentioned can help in getting more attention to these bands. I hope this thread will gain the same attention as your Spanish bands thread, Erik. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:11
It doesn't surprise me at all. PA has allowed genres like proto-prog and prog-related and thereby shifted the focus from what this site should really be about, pure prog! Start reviewing pure prog again!
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:35
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That's exactly what I meant, when I mentionned loosing interest in the site, during discussions which took place here immediately after inclusion of Beatles in PA. After about a month erik is rightfully asking "why?", - well, because... This is what was bound to happen when site is growing rapidly in all directions instead of digging in deeper into purely progressive music. And, definitely, starting of topics like this one will be of great help in further investigation of beauty of Prog. Well done, erik.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:57
OK, thanks, progheads, this is a very promising start  ...!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 08:00
| I would agree with you Erik, bands such as Salem Hill, Glass Hammer and IZZ certainly deserve more attention as they are making the best prog music around (imo). I don't know why they don't get this attention, although I've not heard much of the other bands you've mentioned (in fact I've not even heard of 5 of the bands you listed), we'll just have to do what we can to spread the word. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 08:09
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More broadth can sometimes mean less depth. And I think, Erik, that you probably know more about these new bands than most people on this site. So keep on going with the good work of getting people's attention to new great symphonic prog! |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 08:32
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Symphonic prog rules in my book. I guess I need to get off my but and write some reviews for bands like La Maschera Di Cera and Ubi Maoir, whom I love. It's partly my fault for not taking the time to review them. There's some excellent new symphonic prog out there, ecspecially from Italy. Lets get off our buts and give them the support they deserve! Another good sympho band is White Willow from Norway! Spread the word and good job Erik!
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 08:58
I sampled some IZZ on this site after hearing great things about them,
and then immediately ordered an album. Really, really great
stuff. I'd certainly be interested in learning about other bands
that are of a similar caliber. Keep up the good work Erik! 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 11:10
That's the spirit , progheads but I am astonished that this thread has more than 150 visitors and not even 10 reactions, are our opinions on holiday  ?
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 11:15
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I don't think anything will change if proto-prog and prog-related will be deleted. People (at least, most of them) don't know new symphonic bands, therefore they don't write reviews. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 11:26
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I don't think it's necessarily an ignorance of the genre. The bands you have highlighted Erik are relatively obscure, especially when compared to the Beatles and Queen. The simple fact is that most people, regardless of their taste in music, will be familiar with the music of Queen and the Beatles etc. I suspect the majority of people on this site will not have heard the music of bands such as Overhead, Moon Safari, Amagrama etc and thus will not post reviews of their albums. The dichotomy for them is, should I buy an album I have not heard, and risk not liking it? That is where people such as yourself are such an asset to the site. You are able through your well written reviews and wide knowledge of your subject, to guide people towards music they do not know, but might well enjoy. It is unfortunate that you will never receive the feedback you (and your peers on the site) should perhaps get from all the people who have expanded their awareness of prog as a direct result of your efforts. I am 100% certain though, that many are indebted to you. |
Posted By: sm sm
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 11:37
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Certainly a lot of these bands would fit the format of classic rock stations that play Floyd and Tull etc, but you never hear them. Then again, their listeners would probably complain if such a tune was played because they want to hear "Money" or "Aqualung" for the ten millionth time. A lot would fit on even PBS or other similar stations where jazz and classical is played , but the attitude is that rock can't be such musically intricate or complex as progressive rock is. Such bands could help themselves by allowing some of their songs to be played as MP3s on PA. Some do, some don't. At least attention is being given to them in this forum. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 12:22
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I am sure that if there was not the MP3 invention the new symphonic rock bands would have had it even more difficult, then only a few die-hard progheads knew something about this scene. By the way, thank you all for your kind words, very encouraging |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:12
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I have to confess I didn't own many new progrock records. The most relevant I own is something of Nuova Era but they disbanded over 10 years ago, so you couldn't say they are so new!
My next-to-buy-list is huge and I've ordered cd of Mangala Vallis and La Maschera di Cera. BTW, I think it's extremely difficult to start to listen to modern prog bands if you don't even know the old ones! I started to know the new only after known the old! |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 13:20
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I think new fans are fascinated with the introductiory bands (mostly
prog metal) as their first contact with prog and are rather occupied
with collecting their favorite band's discography and finding similar
bands than to take a more broader look at prog genre from the
beginnings till now. What a pitty. Maybe a good thing to do (as I've seen on another site) would be to add two special sections - featured review/hint/cue of the month and also a featured old (classic) album (not necessarily sympho)! Nothing fancy - just 2 pictures and links to PA album page! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 14:01
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Andrea, when I open my next thread you have bought Mangala Vallis and La Maschera Di Cera, OK I totally agree Terramystic (I hope the PA team read your proposal about two special sections), I have also the idea that many young progheads are too much focussed on progmetal and similar music instead of trying to explore the more unknown world of progressive/symphonic rock. Indeed, what a pity |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 14:05
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For those who want a taste of this new symph prog that Erik is speaking of, here is his thread about this with his recommendations of bands from several countries: ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 14:07
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Some of the bands Erik mentioned have streams on his site. Especially Willowglass sounded very good, reminiscent of Antony Phillips and Steve Hackett. It's a good threat this, i thought that besides TFK and Neal Morse only Glasshammer, Wobbler, Echolyn and Mangrove made symphonic prog in these days and the rest had gone metal. (exaggerating a bit here of course). A few days ago i heard Par Lindh project and Chaos code on Aural Moon. Sounded very good. Don't know if these formations are still active. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 15:50
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Part of the problem with modern symphonic bands is that many people have a "there just copying Yes" attitude to the music and arnt willing to invest in modern music. I myself have the problem that I cant decide wether to explore the discography of a band that I already know to get a better idea of what their like or go off after new bands that I havnt heard. Money is definatly a problem here. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 15:53
Until now nobody of the Prog Archives Symphonic Rock Band Addition Team that I have joined recently has reacted  , I am looking forward to their contributions ......
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 15:55
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IZZ All have put out good work. I would recommend any of them to people looking for new music in this vein.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 16:26
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Djam Karet (latest effort "Recollection Harvest" is excellent symphonic) Echolyn (if you don't know this band, pity you) Magellan Land of Chocolate Mastermind Thirteen Of Everything (go get "Welcome, Humans" immediately!) The Railroad Underground Syzygy (The Allegory Of Light" is simply fantastic and should be in any prog collection; best US symphonic rock band?) Lands End (although more to the psychedelic side - but try out "Natural Selection") |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 16:45
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I will say the same thing I said in Erik's other thread. Check out Tim Morse and his stunning debut album Transformation. Great symphonic prog. -------------  |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 04:34
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Last year I witnessed a gig by Echolyn, excellent! And I am very curious to Tim Morse, IZZ and Syzygy, this weekend I have my two monthly progrock party si I will checkout these bands, you will hear from me, thanks for joining this thread !
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 05:06
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SALEN HILL,DJAM KARET,MASTERMIND AND CHAIN,ARE VERY OVERLOOK IN MY OPINION ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 06:42
This album (Natural selection) is incredibly good almost a masterpiece IMO. Their new album Lower depths is not nearly as good unfortunately. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:12
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I don't know Chain and the latest release by Lands End sounded a bit boring, few highlights. Mastermind has made some good albums and I have seen them once on the Pul Festival in Uden (Holland), very dynamic but also very loud |
...Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:09
There might be some merit to what you are saying. Though I think that the influence of The Beatles on early progressive rock has until recently gone unnoticed. (Listen to Willow's Farm, Ladies of the Road, Brain Damage, all come right out of the White album, for example.) The concentration on specifically progressive rock bands and especally newer ones would surely be more helpful to granting them the best exposure. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:28
| Well, please explain what you mean with The Beatles influence on progressive rock bands, in my opinion The Beatles are one of the most overrated bands so I am very curious! |
Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 13:10
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I disagree that The Beatles are one of the most overrated bands. They are THE most overrated band. If you listen to Crimson's Ladies of the Road it is a cross between Why Don't We Do it in the Road and Michelle. The chord that repeats for Brain Damage sounds like it come out of Dear Prudence and Willow Farm has the quirkiness of Honey Pie and much of the White Album. When The Court first came out, reviewers called in The Beatles with jazz. The kind of extended song form that became associated with prog was something McCartney did on Abbey Road but for wholly different reasons; none of the songs were finished. The idea of a cast of characters that make up Sgt Pepper's, Billy Shears, Lucy, Rita, Mr Kite, as well as the the cover vignette seem to be a influence on Supper's Ready with its cast of characters including Satan himself, Winston Churchill, The Farmer and Fireman (Penny Lane?) as wellk as the idea of a band Sgt Pepper's that has this magical quality maybe even redemptive (sweet rock and roll) and people who do feats of great skill like Mr. Kite, that seem to set up the idea of The show from Karnevil 9. That's just off the top of my head. There may be others. Mind you, I hated the Beatles in the 70s or more aptly Beatlemania and could not understand why my friends wanted to listen to Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road rather than Crimson, Tull, ELP, Yes and Genesis, which they called pretentious and overblown. My girlfriend's favorite album was The White album so we listened to it all the time; we never fought over music, though, and I would bring over my prog albums. She was always a sport. |
Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 14:00
Echolyn are an incredible band and when you check her discography you can see they made great stuff. They will be in the headline for the new festival in Montreal. Red sand is another great band of Quebec City but the only problem it's to find this album. I don't know if is easy to find it in Netherland or in Europe? I think that would be a good thing to compare new smphonic band with other band and not with elp yes genesis king crimson. It's incredible... All symphonic prog looks like of this 4 bands?  ------------- La cuisine c,est comme l,amour, il faut y croire pour que ca marche |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 14:21
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I am amazed how many progrock bands came/come from Quebec! I have been there during a holiday, it is a wonderfu city, a kind of 'small Paris', perhaps the multi-cultural atmosphere is very inspiring. The situation is a bit similar to my hometown The Hague, many famous and known (prog)rock came/come from The Hague like The Golden Earring, Q65, Finch, Earth & Fire, Shocking Blue ... to name a few! In the Sixties The Hague was nicknamed 'the Liverpool of The Netherlands By the way, Red Sand is not easy to get here, also because the new CD it is a limited edtion. I got it as a promo. |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 16:46
It can be purchased at Caerlyssi Music http://www.caerllysimusic.co.uk/ - http://www.caerllysimusic.co.uk/ |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 06:03
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Hi Erik,
this morning I've bought Il Castello di Atlante's "Ippogrifo" (1995). From the first listenings teh albums has nothing special for me, so I'm a little bit disappointed!
BTW I've ordered their last album "Quintessenza" (2004) and tomorrow probably I'll buy La Maschera di Cera their last album! |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 11:38
| I think the thread was why are all these symphonic bands flying under the radar? Prog metal and post rock. People can name these newer symphonic bands but not a lot of information follows. Some of these bands are really quite good. It takes some listening to and put away your Yes and genesis yardsticks. Some of these bands are actually better. Everything builds on what went before. Symphonic prog was fortunate to have a great base to build on. So we all want to know,where`s the revival? |
Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 14:21
| I think that one of the problems people have coming to new prog is that a lot of it sounds derivative. What the classic Brit prog groups had on their side was that they were playing American music with a European twist, and they had all the new technology: synths, wah-wah and distortion pedals, and multi-track recording. It all sounded new and fresh, but actually most of it was really derivative. As 'unique' as they sounded, you can hear where they influenced each other or were influenced by others. Really the key figures in early prog were Ravi Shankar, Stockhausen, Coltrane, Miles and you can add Bernstein. The Beatles get the credit Shankar should get, for example with the Moodies. They were influenced by Shankar and Paul Horn, not the Beatles. What I am learning to appreciate in new prog is how people work with the musical language to do something original and interesting. |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 14:36
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Erik, two reasons I tend to overlook new symphonic bands is a) I actually prefer the "sound" of 60s and 70s rock ... I find most modern symphonic bands (Glass Hammer, Flower Kings, etc) to be too pristine for my tastes The other issue is that or originality/freshness ... some, but certainly not all of the modern bands ... seem to be having too much homage ... classic case in point is Wobbler ... which is great, but very much a retro band (even though I perversely "love" the retro sound) ... what I'm saying is that from new bands I want something like Mars Volta ... a new direction with a raw sound ... This is not to say I write off new symphonic stuff, please note that I am extremely interested in obsure symphonic bands ... but mainly from the 70s and not just from the UK, but from Quebec, Holland, Italy, and partly thanks to you South America and Spain too! Having said all that I will be listening to Salem Hill's last two albums very soon! ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 14:41
That brings up something I was thinking about, Erik. Symphonic prog used to be the gateway into prog; I know in the late 80s/early 90s I wasn't really into music at all and then discovered Rush and Yes (not saying Rush is symphonic), but certainly Yes was my gateway to Crimson, ELP, etc. Nowadays the younger set may be approaching prog through prog metal, as this is something which didn't really exist as a solid subgenre until probably the mid-to-late 90s. Also I wonder if when people consider new symphonic bands, there is a notion of "but I have the works of Genesis, Yes, et. al. They were the real masters, why should I invest in watered-down copies and be disappointed?" Is there a sense that the best that could have been done in symphonic prog has been done? I'm certainly not saying this is true and it is unfair to the newer bands, but one wonders if these sentiments are out there. I guess one last point is, since coming to this site I've been quickly overwhelmed with the number of bands. To me it seems there's about 1-2 recommendations of "great bands" (that I've not heard of) per day. CDs are not that expensive but it can really add up if you attempt to soak in this much music. It's great that this much good music is being made, but it's also really hard to keep up! |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 16:01
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Indeed, it is very hard to keep up. I know I do my best. That is why I follow various people and their threads, recommendations and reviews here on PA. I have complied a list of bands to listen to (reaches about ~400 or more) by these threads and reviews alone. There are excellent threads which specialize in bands of certain genre or country that are a very good source of info for the prog fan that wants to know more than the common knowledge. Plus I have started a thread (I Recommend) in which everyone here is invited to give their favourite band / artist and describe them in a few lines (or more if they want). I also do another thing once in a while. I go to the index in the main page at the top, choose either a letter or a genre and go over it and choose at random a name I don't know and explore a new band. This way I discovered many great bands (Hidria Spacefolk, Oceansize, Discus, White Willow, Circus, Bacamarte etc.) ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 04:12
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Hello fellow progheads, thanks for keeping this challenging thread alive by your enthousiastic and dedicated contributions. Nice one from NaturalScience: "Symphonic prog used to be the gateway into prog" .. Yesterday I arrived at midnight at home after my 'Easter playing card evening' and took a brief look at the reviews on the homepage and my PM's. This morning I did the same, remarkable how many reviews about progmetal, The Beatles, ELO, etc. There is some very good new symphonic rock but you should search for it as with all pleasant things in life (except when you have plenty of money but then it's the question or you can still enjoy it.. Andrea Cortese is on the brink of buying the new CD by the newgreat Italian symphonic rock band La Maschera Di Cera, I am sure we will read very soon an euphoric review By the way, I received an e-mail from them, they were grateful with my review on Prog Archives and asked or I knew some people to arrange that they can perform in The Netherlands! So I am busy to look for that. Again thanks everybody, a big hand for the NEW SYMPHONIC ROCK |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 05:07
I've bought La Maschera di Cera their latest album yesterday (sunday). Only listened to the first three tracks. Running time is on about 65 mns, so I need a pair of weeks to have a more correct opinion. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:31
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Hello Andrea! Saturday evening I had my monthy progrock party at the house of a friend who ownes a progrock mailorder service, within a week he had sold all his 20 new La Maschera Di Cera cd's! So I am very curious to your opinion after you have listened to the entire CD and look forward to your review
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:45
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I received it today, but I want to listen to it only when I can devote my full and uninterrupted attention - hence, Friday will be a good occasion to do so. Looking forward to this, as the reviews (not just on PA) are praising this. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 14:02
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Well Avestin, I can't wait to hear your opinion about the new La Maschera Di Cera (and the one from Andrea) !
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:07
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...hmmm... I'm thinking I have already heard something from Il Grande Labirinto...I'm quite sure that's was on the radio... Some sung parts of the albums are very melodic (for example Ai Confini del Mondo) with great and pompous symphonic rock all around. Two "disquieting and disturbing" elements in the arrangements' structure: respectevely electric guitar and flute... ..."Phobos" and "Deimos" are newly together? be careful, people! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:41
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Hello Andrea. I was surprised by the huge progress from La Maschera Di Cera if you compare their new album and their previous studio album, this is the first La Maschera Di Cera album I am really delighted about I hope to see your review very soon
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 03:40
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...what a mistake...the last La Maschera di Cera album is of 2006 year, not of 2003!! I bought their 2003 album thinking it was their last release! Sorry I didn't see...
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this is what I've boughtPosted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 03:58
OK, Andrea, now I know why you didn't react so enthousiasticly  , like the reviews about Luz Ade from yesterday on the homepage !
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 04:06
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Hello Erik, La Maschera di Cera's tour will consist also in a date in Belgium. Thought it would interested you (if Verviers is not too far from your home in the Netherlands
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 05:30
| Thanks Andrea but I am waiting for my working schedule in June, I have irregular shifts, I hope I can go June 4th to La Maschera La Cera! |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 05:33
Thank you Erik! I hope us symphonic prog fans can bring back symphonic prog to the foreground. At least on equal footing with the other genres. New symphonic/neo bands to look for now that I can think of - Rak, Moon Safari, Strangefish, Brighteye Brison, Retroheads, Advent (first new album in many years), Waterclime, Simon Apple, Magrathea, Thirteen of Everything, Tim Morse, Azureth, Eyestrings, Dave Bainbridge (solo work). Qwaarn, Parallel Mind, Talisma. These are some good bands! ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 06:51
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Well Erik, my point of view: I stumbled upon prog music through bands like DT & Opeth. And they compose the kind of music I absolutely love. It doesn't have to be all blastbeats and stuff, but when it becomes somewhat rough, I won't be the first to run away .And besides that: look at the 'big' metal names like Dimmu Borgir, Trivium, CoF... They've got lots of young fans, and maybe it's easier for them to join the progmetal scene, when they mature (both physically and musically  )I, for one, am looking for some nice examples of progrock, because I absolutely want to hear more of it. So, not all is lost! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/manmadegod/?chartstyle=ScarlettJohansson1"> 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 16:53
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Of course not all is lost, in contrary, many intesesting but less or unknown progrock albums are waiting to be discovered
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Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 18:25
------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 18:36
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YES!!! Tim Morse's new album is very good. A bit on the technical side (not close to sounding like Camel or Pink Floyd). Sort of like a cross between Syzygy and Echolyn with ELP thrown in. Also check out Retroheads. They have made a wonderful album with many different symphonic styles showing through from Camel to Pink Floyd to Genesis to Eloy to ELP to Yes and modern neo-prog bands. Very melodic and well written! ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 20:12
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Don't know how hard it is to find in Europe but it's easy in North America. Go to http://www.lasercd.com/default.asp - http://www.lasercd.com/default.asp , http://www.kinesiscd.com - www.kinesiscd.com , http://www.waysidemusic.com/default.asp - www.waysidemusic.com/default.asp , or http://synphonic.8m.com/country/canada.htm - http://synphonic.8m.com/country/canada.htm ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 03:49
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Great contribution, Dalt99! Retroheads made a wonderful album, see my review on this site. I hope to listen to Tim Morse this weekend. |
Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 05:50
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 06:00
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Just bought the last album from Il Castello di Atlante: "Quintessenza" (2004).
excellent record!! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 06:47
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Once I heard the debut album, wonderful music but there are so many good new Italian bands! I just got the first Doracor CD, splendid symphonic rock with great keyboard sound !
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 06:53
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 08:26
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Almost forgotten! this morning I've ordered this...
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 08:42
I have it/ Heard it on;y 3 times, but it seems to be very good. Need some more listens though, since it is packed with so many musical ideas and lengthy songs. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 16 2006 at 10:51
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We will await Andrea his review about the new La Maschera Di Cera .. !
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 08:27
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Hello Erik, today I've bought:  Since the first listenings it seems to me far better than the previous one!!
 Wonderful album indeed!
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 11:07
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^^^
I have listened to it several times and I hear new things with every listen and appreciate it more each time. They have really progressed from previous albums.
This album is so full of musical ideas and there are various msuical textures to it, a spectacular show of both musicianship and compositional skills. I need to listen to it more, to really know this from head to toes. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 11:36
Retro bands...get a life and do something new!
I love prog but regressive music is not good for anyone, I see a bright horizon for music that escapes the conventions of classic prog but only if people ascribe to it. Like I said on another post "prog is not independant of culture" and the culture does not support the elements that made classic symphonic rock good. Stop using the past as a crutch and start innovating.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 12:28
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wonderful!! Well-spent money!!
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 12:29
Yes, it appears to be a very convincing album!
Lots of stunning musical ideas, catching atmosphere, wonderful variety!
P.S. Did you notice the winged red demon (with horns) behind the church's glass?
BTW, ADE is the god of the deads...LUX is the latin word for LIGHT...two opposites....................a new FELONA e Sorona???  |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 12:36
Thanks for the info on the album's name, I was intrigued by this.
I only now notice the demon
 Usually I inspect covers with much attention but htis time I missed it.------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 12:51
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And there's me thinking it was about Lemonade or something!
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Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 13:29
  ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:28
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Hello Erik, I'm going to write a review on Lux Ade in the next days...what a wonderful record!!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 13:33
OK, Andrea (C, there are so many Andrea's.. ), let's spread the word !!
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:46
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LUX ADE
Great Album!!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 08:03
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Great to read Andrea C. his wonderful, sheer euphoric review (thanks for the Italian lyrics explanations) about the new La Maschera Di Cera cd and Ivan his very positive review about the first Triana album, another proghead who discovered the Prog Andaluz?!
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