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Topic: Your favorite Steve H
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Subject: Your favorite Steve H
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:27

Three of my fav's and they are all a "Steve H" how about that?

There's plenty of Steve's in the musical world(including Stevie Nicks) but are there more than 3 Steve H's?

Oh and Mr. Hillage for me




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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:31

Steve Hogarth not included?

Well, anyway, Hillage gets my vote (for 'Fish Rising' alone). It could be any of the other 2 as well (3 geniuses, hard to make a choice).



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:32

Steve Howe is under-rated IMO.

He can play different styles, and incorporates them all into Yesmusic with a sound that is definitely his own.Yes is guitar music predominantly and it his leads that define the music. If Yes are so good surely that reflects positively on Mr Howe.



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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:34
Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Steve Hogarth not included?

Well, anyway, Hillage gets my vote (for 'Fish Rising' alone). It could be any of the other 2 as well (3 geniuses, hard to make a choice).

Maybe if his name was Steve Rothery I guess.



Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:43
All hail Steve Hothery then...

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Posted By: Raymon7174
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 18:52

Steve Howe all the way.

Not his greatest work, but had it not been for Howes' leads in Yes' Tales, Tales would have been a disaster rather than a controversy of an album. Howes' work on other Yes classics, in particular Relayer, Fragile and the Yes Album, is just fabulous.



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Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 03:02
Originally posted by Raymon7174 Raymon7174 wrote:

Steve Howe all the way.

Not his greatest work, but had it not been for Howes' leads in Yes' Tales, Tales would have been a disaster rather than a controversy of an album. Howes' work on other Yes classics, in particular Relayer, Fragile and the Yes Album, is just fabulous.

But, although Howe is an amazing guitarist and his imput in Yes is essential, his solo career is not as interesting as Hackett's. So I go for the latter.



Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 03:21

I really like all of the three!

But Hillage's GREEN (1978) is seemed like my favorite album of all the three discographies...



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 08:17
Originally posted by Paco Fox Paco Fox wrote:

[QUOTE=Raymon7174]

But, although Howe is an amazing guitarist and his imput in Yes is essential, his solo career is not as interesting as Hackett's. So I go for the latter.

Are you including the long period before Yes, during which Howe paid his dues? e.g

Tomorrow,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IBDY/qid=1103287713/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_11_2/026-3256401-3420413 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IBDY/qid=1103 287713/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_11_2/026-3256401-3420413

Bodast,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000828/qid=1103287488/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_11_5/026-3256401-3420413 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000828/qid=1103 287488/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_11_5/026-3256401-3420413

For snapshots of pre-Yes period also try Howe's Mothballs:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000061AT/qid=1103287488/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_11_6/026-3256401-3420413 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000061AT/qid=1103 287488/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_11_6/026-3256401-3420413

and I'm lead to believe Howe contributed to probably the first pop/rock opera Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006YZZ/qid=1103287791/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-3256401-3420413 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006YZZ/qid=1103 287791/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-3256401-3420413 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000061AT/qid=1103287488/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_11_6/026-3256401-3420413 -

 



Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 09:36

I thought I had already replied on this pole, guess not.

For me it is steve Howe, though I'm beginning to think better of Steve Hackett every day. i think his influence on the Genesis sound is bigger than I previously thought.

Don't know much about Steve Hillage though (I never heard from him, or Gong for that matter, until I start visiting this website, I love the available download from Fish Rising "Solar Musick Suite).

I doubt any guitar player will ever come close to Jimmy Page though.

 

BTW. Great Dick, If we didn't already have you on this Forum we would have to invent you, as alway's a great lead to new things. Someone always has the trivial and the important information, thanks for Sharing Dick.



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Posted By: progrockgeek
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 10:17
That's a tough decision to make, it would have to be Steve Howe. I saw Yes at Glastonbury last year (the first prog band I've ever seen live) and watching him play blow my head off.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 13:03
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

I doubt any guitar player will ever come close to Jimmy Page though.

 

BTW. Great Dick, If we didn't already have you on this Forum we would have to invent you, as alway's a great lead to new things. Someone always has the trivial and the important information, thanks for Sharing Dick.

Sorry - I've been too long in the academic game (as well as being pretty ancient), to avoid not throwing in the odd fact and correcting if necessary. But that's is my perception of Prog Archives: to inform and be informed (and I for one have certainly benefitted from the latter). Music radio and written media rarely provides such things to progressive rock fans.

 

I guess Danbo and I would argue against Mr Page - but not here.



Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 17:26
hackett

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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 17:37

Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

hackett

No need to swear! LOL



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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 17:46

Interesting point Paco and one which cannot be argued with.Howe's solo stuff is nowhere near as good, but as Reed said, Steve's guitar drives Yes's music and still does. I believe he is the master guitar man.

                              Felices Navidades Paco

                              Juan



Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 18:01
I gave Hillage a pity vote.  A great, painfully underrated guitarist.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 20:11
Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

I gave Hillage a pity vote.  A great, painfully underrated guitarist.


And far more active as a producer than the other gentlemen


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 21:50

Steve Hackett was the man that kept Genesis alive, not even Peter Gabriel's departure affected Genesis so much as Steve's.

Steve Hackett has a more prolific and succesfull solo career than Steve Howe, and not because he sold out (not saying Steve Howe  sold out) but even when he kept faithful to the genre. Genesis without Hackett is not Genesis, Yes without Howe doesn't sound as good as with him, but still is Yes.

Steve Hackett created a unique atmospheric sound that no other band achieved.

Hackett's accoustic albums and songs like Midnight Summer's Dream or Horizons are simply perfect.

So my vote goes for Steve Hackett.

Iván



Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 02:10
Steve hillage, by far


Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 02:47

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Steve hillage, by far



Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 12:56
I'll vote for Hillage - the most original, innovative (with the help of Miquette Giraudy) and stylish.


Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 12:58

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I'll vote for Hillage - the most original, innovative (with the help of Miquette Giraudy) and stylish.

How can he be original as a guitarist with someone's help?Evil Smile

They are all great anyway!

Smile



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 13:17
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I'll vote for Hillage - the most original, innovative (with the help of Miquette Giraudy) and stylish.

How can he be original as a guitarist with someone's help?Evil Smile

Duh! In the same way a band can be original...

They are all great anyway!

Smile



Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: December 19 2004 at 09:12
Steve Hackett for me.

Genesis ceased to be in my eyes once he'd left, and his solo work is exceptional.




Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: December 20 2004 at 03:45
Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

Interesting point Paco and one which cannot be argued with.Howe's solo stuff is nowhere near as good, but as Reed said, Steve's guitar drives Yes's music and still does. I believe he is the master guitar man.

                              Felices Navidades Paco

                              Juan

 ˇFelices navidades también!.  .

 I read in a spanish prog forum a post about a guy that had sent tapes of the main prog guitar players (The Steves, Fripp, Latimer, Oldfield...) to a professional music expert to judge the quality of the performance, not the composition. He concluded that Howe was technically brilliant.

But this is, for me, the cream over the ice: I like a performer to be great, although is just very secondary to the compositions.

Saludos:

Paco



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 20 2004 at 12:37
Of the three, doesn't Howe have the best collection of riffs - check out Mike Keneally's Faithful Axe, ex Boil that Dust Speck for a demo.


Posted By: Captain Squib
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 14:51
Steve Howe, then Hackett, then Hillage.

Other Steve H's? Steve Hunter(Peter gabriel's 1st album and David lee Roth's Little Aint Enough)
Steve Holland - Molly Hatchett
Steve Harris - Gary Numan

Other Steves:

Steve Rothery - Marillion
Steve Jones - Sex Pistols
Steve Clark - Def Leppard
Steve Lukather - Toto
Steve Rossington - Lynnard Skynnard
Steve Ferris - Mr. Mister
Steve Vai
Steve Morse
Steve Miller
Steve Marriot - Small Faces/Humble Pie
Steve Stevens - Billy Idol
Stevie Ray Vaughan

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 15:42

A tough choice, but I like all 3. Steve Hillage reminds me of another guitar player that hardly anyone knows, but who had some interesting output: The late Christian Boule.

He appears on one side of the first record of Clearlight and on their release "Vision" too and also produced two solo albums that are worth being listened to, especially the first. He also played in the band of Steve Hillage for a while, as can be heard on "Live Herald".

Here the covers of his solo albums and the cover of the first Clearlight recording. (By the way, there are 2 guitar players on the first Clearlight album, one on each side (or track for the CD version); the other is Steve Hillage. One could make a quiz out of it: Play the first Clearlight record to someone and ask them which of the 2 giuitar players Steve Hillage is; the question is extremely difficult to answer.



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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 15:55

Steve Howe Album is amazing

country influenced prog I love it.

  1. Steve Howe
  2. Steve Hackett
  3. Steve Hillage
  4. some else
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  10. Steve Hogarth does nothing does nothing for me


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 16:42

Steve Howe

But Hackett's great too.

Steve Hillage: didn't check him out yet.



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 17:33

All great axemen, but I,ve always had a hankering for Hackett. He put the "feel" and atmosphere into Genesis IMO.

Hillage, always a pleasure to hear his soaring guitar work

Howe, in a class of his own.

So.....my vote Hackett, but its not an easy choice!



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 22:03
Hackett, by about 3 votes

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