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Topic: Rank your Genesis Albums...
Posted By: The T
Subject: Rank your Genesis Albums...
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 22:54
Just want to know how people here would rank Genesis' albums, and I want to see if tastes differ from the "norm" as much as mine do. I don't include the very first and the very last because they are special, and I have to say, though I own them, I haven't heard the three last ones yet....

My rank:

1. Foxtrot
2. Selling England by the Pound
3. A trick of the tail
4. And then there were three
5. The lamb lies down on Broadway
6. Wind and Wuthering
7. Duke
8. Nursery Cryme
9. Abacab
10. Tresspass
11. (invisible touch, genesis, we can't dance - not heard yet)

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 23:03
Foxtrot
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Nursery Cryme
Trespass
Selling England by the Pound
Wind and Wuthering
A Trick of the Tail
And Then There Were Three
From Genesis to Revelation
Duke
Abacab
Genesis

The list stops there, because those are the only ones worth listing.


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 23:06
Foxtrot(my favorite album ever)StarStarStarStarStarStarStarStarStarStar
Nyrsety CrymeStarStarStarStarStar
TrespassStarStarStarStarStar
SEBTPStarStarStarStarStar
A Trick Of The TailStarStarStarStar
The LambStarStarStarStar
Wind And WutheringStarStarStar.5
FGTRStarStarStar
DukeStarStar
ShapesStar
Invisible TouchStar

Haven't heard the rest and don't really want to.


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 23:57
Selling England
Foxtrot
The Lamb
Nursery Cryme
Wind and the Wuthering
Trick of the Tail
Tresspass
....
The rest


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Posted By: Solids2k
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 00:04
Foxtrot
Selling England By The Pound
A Trick of the Tail
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Nursery Cryme
Duke
Trespass
Wind And Wuthering
Genesis
Abacab
And Then There Were Three
Invisible Touch
We Can't Dance
From Genesis To Revelation
Calling All Stations

Wow, this was tougher than I thought.


Posted By: polyrythmic
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 00:12
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Selling England By The Pound
Foxtrot
Wind And Wuthering
Nursery Cryme
A Trick of the Tail
Duke
And Then There Were Three


The Genesis albums in order that I own.


Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 00:28
This is tough, But I'll give it a shot.

Selling England
Nursery Cryme
Foxtrot
Lamb
Trespass
Live
ATOTT
Wind And Wuthering
Duke
Genesis
Abacab
And Then There Were Three
Invisible Touch
From Genesis To Revelation
Seconds Out
Three Sides Live
We Can't Dance

#3 thru #6 are actually interchangeable, #1 and #2 is not.


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Posted By: ryba
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 02:38
trespass
wind and wuthering
selling...
duke
...


Posted By: krapulax
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 02:43
1. foxtrot, nursery, wind & wuthering
2. selling england, the lamb
3. trespass, trick, duke, then there were 3
4. abacab, from genesis..
5. the others


Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 02:44
1) SEBTP
2) Nursery Cryme
3) Foxtrot
4) The Lamb...


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 02:45
1. Nursery Cryme
2. Foxtrot
3. Trespass
4. Selling England
5. Trick of The Tail
6. We Can't Dance
7. Invisible touch
8. The Lamb Lies Down
9. From Genesis to revelation

can't remember the other albums very well.


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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 03:11

1.Selling England By the Pound    2.Trick of the Tail 3.Wind and Wuthering 4. Foxtrot 5. And Then There Were Three 6. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 7. Duke 8. Trespass 9. Genesis 10. Abacab 11. Invisible Touch 12. Calling All Stations 13. We Can't Dance 14. Nursery Cryme(Great Songs, Horrible Production)                     

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 04:05
1 - A Trick of the Tail
2 - The Lamb Lies down on Broadway
3 - Foxtrot
4 - Wind & Wuthering
5 - SEBTP
6 - Trespass
7 - And then there were three
8 - Nursery Cryme
9 - Duke
10 - Genesis
11 - Abacab
12 - We Cant Dance
13 Invisible Touch
    

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Posted By: theBox
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 04:45
1.Foxtrot
2.Selling England....
3.Nursery Cryme
4.A Trick of the Tail
5.Wind and Wuthering
6.The lamb Lies Down on Broadway
7.Tresspass



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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 04:47
Foxtrot
Selling
Nursery
WaW
ATotT
Trespass
Lamb


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 04:59
let's do it again...
 
without any lives
 
1. Foxtrot
2. Selling England By The Pound
3. Trespass
4. Nursery Cryme
5. A Trick Of The Tail
6. Wind &Wuthering
7. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
8. Duke
9. From Genesis To Revelation
10. Invisible Touch
11. ...and then there were three
12. We Can't Dance
13. Genesis
14. Abacab
15. ...Calling All Stations...


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 05:10
Lamb
Selling
Foxtrot
Trick
Nursery
Abacab
Trespass
Three Sides Live
Wind

Don't much care for 'Live' or 'And Then..' Can't stand 'Duke'.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 05:27
Selling England By The Pound 5/5
A Trick Of The Tail 5/5
Nursery Cryme 5/5
Foxtrot 5/5
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 5/5
Trespass 4/5
Wind and Wuthering 4/5
And Then There Were Three 4/5
Duke 4/5
We Can't Dance 3/5
From Genesis To Revelation 2.5/5

The others are way down...
Genesis 2.5/5
Abacab 2.5/5
Invisible Touch 2.5/5
Calling All Stations (the one true duffer) 1.5/5

As for live albums:
Seconds Out 5/5
Live 3/5
Three Sides Live 3/5
TWWW- The Longs 3/5
TWWW- The Shorts 2/5
    
    
    


Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 05:34
Foxtrot
The Lamb
Selling England
Nursery Cryme
Trespass
W&W
Trick
Duke
ATTWT
Genesis
FGTR
Abacab
IT (scared me off for good. Never tried WCD or CAS after this)


Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 07:16
Studio albums:
  1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (5/5)
  2. Foxtrot (5/5)
  3. Selling England by the Pound (5/5)
  4. A Trick of the Tail (5/5)
  5. Nursery Cryme (4.5/5)
  6. Duke (4.5/5)
  7. Genesis (4+/5)
  8. Trespass (4+/5)
  9. Wind and Wuthering (4/5)
  10. Abacab (4/5)
  11. And Then There Were Three (4/5)
  12. Invisible Touch (4/5)
  13. Calling all Stations (4-/5)
  14. From Genesis to Revelation (3.5/5)
  15. We Can't Dance (3.5/5)

Live albums:

  1. The Way We Walk vol.2 - The Longs (4.5/5)
  2. Genesis Live (4.5/5)
  3. Seconds Out (4.5/5)
  4. Three Sides Live (4.5/5)
  5. The Way We Walk vol.1 - The Shorts (not yet heard)

Box sets:

  1. Archive '67-'75 (5/5)
  2. Archive # 2 (4+/5)


Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 07:28
Foxtrot                     5/5
The Lamb                 5/5
Selling England          5/5
A Trick of the Tail      4/5
Nursery Cryme           4/5
Trespass                   4/5
W&W                       3/5
 
That's it.
 
 
 


Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 07:31
Foxtrot
Nursery Cryme
Trespass
Selling England By The Pound
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Genesis Live (1st)
Wind And Wuthering
A Trick of the Tail
Abacab
Calling All Stations
We Can't Dance
Invisible Touch
Genesis
Duke
From Genesis To Revelation
And Then There Were Three



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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 07:51
1 SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND
2 LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY (THE)
3 FOXTROT
4 NURSERY CRYME
5 TRESPASS
6 ARCHIVES 1969 - 1975
7 LIVE
8 A TRICK OF THE TAIL
9 SECONDS OUT
10 FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION
11 AND THEN THERE WERE THREE
12 THREE SIDES LIVE
13 WIND AND WUTHERING
14 DUKE
15 LIVE THE WAY WE WALK…………VOLUME 2………THE LONGS
16 WE CAN'T DANCE
17 ARCHIVES 1976 - 1992
18 ABACAB
19 GENESIS
20 INVISIBLE TOUCH
21 LIVE THE WAY WE WALK…………VOLUME 1………THE SHORTS

    

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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:13
Notice the names of the users who responded to this thread... theBox, salmacis, Sir Hogweed, Liquid Len... LOL

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:20
Not a Genesis fan by any means, but I quite like those albums I own...

SEbtP - 5/5
AToT - 4/5
W&W - 4.5/5
Seconds Out - 4/5


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:42
Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Notice the names of the users who responded to this thread... theBox, salmacis, Sir Hogweed, Liquid Len... LOL
 
I'm waiting for OpethG. WinkOuch


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:43
1. Nursery Cryme
2. Foxtrot
3. Selling England by the Pound
4. A Trick of the Tail
5. Trespass
6. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
7. Wind and Wuthering


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:43
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Not a Genesis fan by any means, but I quite like those albums I own...

SEbtP - 5/5
AToT - 4/5
W&W - 4.5/5
Seconds Out - 4/5
 
Well if you own only that and that's your purest impression, you're pretty much a...don't gasp...Genesis fan. LOL (fan = you appreciate Genesis pretty well)
 
(though an almost Collins Genesis fan Shocked)


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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 08:56
foxtrot
nursery cryme
selling england
(the genesis live album I haven't bought yet but I'm sure is better than lamb)
lamb
being kicked in the ear
all other genesis studio albums

Unapologetic about this harsh rating. I don't waste my time with subpar material from excellent bands. Of course, those three albums are glorious and I'll never tire of them.


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:04
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Not a Genesis fan by any means, but I quite like those albums I own...SEbtP - 5/5AToT - 4/5W&W - 4.5/5Seconds Out - 4/5

    

they're good ones...if you own more than one album you're a fan!



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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:07
Yes... Only a Genesis fan would give SEBTP 5 out of 5. Wink
 
Why OpethG, Rico?


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:10
because Opeth has a special grunge for Genesis.

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:16
Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Yes... Only a Genesis fan would give SEBTP 5 out of 5. Wink
 


Ivan, if you check my SEbtP review, you'll see I call it a 'flawed masterpiece'. I know very well it's far from perfect, but - unlike the probably superior "Foxtrot" - it really does something for me, and has been for years one of my favourite prog albums. Strange indeed, as I've never really been a fan of the band - especially not in the Italian sense, since here there are people who literally worship Genesis and all its members.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:23
I think SEBTP has only one flaw- More Fool Me. It's not even THAT bad either, but it's weak compared to the rest. I love the rest- yes, even The Battle Of Epping Forest. Before I came here I had no idea it wasn't too popular, and I loved it as much as most anything else there. Tony Banks incidentally considers 'After The Ordeal' to be the worst thing they ever recorded. I could think of at least 10 worse songs, and I love After The Ordeal too- gorgeous music on that.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:38
  1. Foxtrot
  2. Selling England By The Pound
  3. Nursery Cryme
  4. A Trick of The Tail
  5. Genesis Live
  6. Wind & Wuthering (really 4.3/5)
  7. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  8. Trespass
  9. Seconds Out
  10. Three Sides Live
  11. Duke
  12. Rock Theatre
  13. ...And Then There Were Three
  14. Genesis
  15. Abacab
  16. Invisible Touch
  17. Turn It On Again: The Hits
  18. From Genesis to Revelation

And of course:

  • Genesis Archives Vol 1 - 1967-1975
 
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:53
1. Foxtrot - best album ever
2. Nursery Cryme
3. Lamb
4. Selling England
5. Duke - a new sound!
6. Trick of the Tail - more accessible than the Gabriel albums, yet the same style
7. Trespass - severly underated
8. Genesis
9. Three Sides Live - the studio cuts here warrant its inclusion though live albums were not listed
10. Wind And Wuthering - "One for the Vine" is one of my favorite songs
11. And Then There Were Three
12. Abacab
13. Invisible Touch
14. We Can't Dance


Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 09:57
This is an easy one!

1. The Lamb
2. Trick of the Tail
3. Nursery Cryme
4. Wind and Wuthering
5. And Then There Were Three
6. Foxtrot
7. Trespass
8. Selling England
9. Seconds Out
10. Duke
11. Genesis Live
12. Genesis (shapes)
13. Invisible Touch
14. From Genesis to Revelation
15. Abacab
16. We Can't Dance (don't have it, but the title track...ugh)

Honourable Mention: Archive 1

Yes, I'm a Collins apologist (to a point)


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Posted By: Father Tiresias
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 10:03
1. Selling England By The Pound
2. Wind And Wuthering
3.Trespass
4. Foxtrot
5. A trick Of The Tail
6. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
7. Nursery Cryme
8. And Then There Were Three
9. Duke
10. We Can't Dance
11. From Genesis To revelation
12. Abacab
13. Invisible Touch
14. Calling All Stations
15. Genesis

That's  a wrap!

-Peace



Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 10:16
Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

7. Trespass - severly underated
 
 
severly underrated, but it's number 7, last from the Genesis classics to you as well. WinkConfused
even Duke's better! ShockedOuch
 
that's pretty much the level of "underrated". Confused


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Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 10:33
Selliing England A+
Foxtrot A+
Nursery Cryme A+
Lamb A+
Trick A+
Wind and Wuthering A+
Trespass A
Live A
Seconds Out A
...And Then There Were Three... A-
Duke A-
Three Sides Live A-
Abacab B
The Way We Walk the Longs B
From Genesis to Revelation B-
Mama Album/Shapes Album/Genesis C
We Cant Dance C-
Invisible Touch D
The Way WE Walk the Shorts F
 
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 11:17
Selling England
Wind and Wuthering
Archives I (for The Lamb & Suppers Ready alone)
Duke
Trick of the Tail
The Lamb Lies Down
Seconds Out
Three Sides Live
Foxtrot
Nursery Cryme
 
And that's all I've got to say about that....


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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 11:42
A very difficult one this. As my favourite band, the order changes all the time (except for my number one, which is always the same), and the list I give now is in no way set in stone.
For today though:
 
1) The Lamb (fave album of all time)
2) Nursery Cryme
3) A Trick Of The Tail
4) Selling England By The Pound
5) Foxtrot
6) Trespass
7) Wind And Wuthering
8) Duke
9) And Then There Were Three
 
And the rest - nowhere! Wink


Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 13:09
Tough one for me...

1. Foxtrot

And that's my list of all of their albums I have....


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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 13:28
Selling England By The Pound 5/5
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 4.6/5
Foxtrot 4.5/5
Nursery Cryme 4.2/5
A Trick Of The Tail 4.1/5
Trespass 3.7/5
Wind and Wuthering 2.9/5
And Then There Were Three 2.8/5
Genesis 2.2/5
We Can't Dance 2.1/5
Duke 1.6/5
Abacab 1.5/5
From Genesis To Revelation 1.4/5
Invisible Touch 1.3/5
Calling All Stations 1/5



Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 13:32
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I think SEBTP has only one flaw- More Fool Me. It's not even THAT bad either, but it's weak compared to the rest. I love the rest- yes, even The Battle Of Epping Forest. Before I came here I had no idea it wasn't too popular, and I loved it as much as most anything else there. Tony Banks incidentally considers 'After The Ordeal' to be the worst thing they ever recorded. I could think of at least 10 worse songs, and I love After The Ordeal too- gorgeous music on that.


I will only say about SEBTP that "Firth of fifth"'s instrumental section has some of the most BEAUTIFUL music ever this side of classical music, the way Hackett plays the same melody as Gabriel did on flute, that moment gives me the chills....spectacular.

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 13:49
I am sorry but I am moving this to Prog Recommendations.


It would be more interesting if you guys (and gals) actually stated how and why you came to your conclusions......Wink


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 13:52
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I am sorry but I am moving this to Prog Recommendations.


It would be more interesting if you guys (and gals) actually stated how and why you came to your conclusions......Wink
 
what arguments should we actually say to a most simple (and repeated a lot, hint) rank? Wink


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 14:22
  1. Selling England By The Pound                        Because I like it the most
  2. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway              I like it second best
  3. Nursery Cryme                                              Third favourite to me, I like it third best
  4. A Trick Of The Tail                                        I like this one just behind number 3!
  5. Wind And Wuthering                                      Hacketts last....I like it!    
  6. Foxtrot                                                           I don't like this as much as many other people., but I like it.
  7. Invisible Touch                                               My Fave non Hackett album!!!!!!
  8. Abacab                                                          My second fave non Hackett.
  9. Genesis                                                          I'm sure you get it by now.
  10. Duke                                                              Trees........and grassland.
  11. Trespass                                                         You're not even reading this anymore are you
  12. And Then There Were Three                            Big 'uns!!!!!Tongue
  13. Calling All Stations                                           Beam me up, Scotty.Shocked
  14. We can't Dance                                                Not impressed.                                     
  15. From Genesis To Relevation                             They were young.......aww.

Have I missed any?


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 14:49

1.Foxtrot 5/5

2.A Trick Of The Tail 5/5

3.Selling England By The Pound 5/5

4.Wind And Wuthering 4/5

5.And Then There Were Three 4/5

6.Seconds Out 4/5

7.The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 4/5

8.Nursery Chryme 4/5

9.Duke 3/5

10.Genesis Live 3/5

11.Three Sides Live 3/5

12.The Way We Walk - The Longs 3/5

13.Trespass 3/5

14. FGTR 2/5

15. Calling All Stations 2/5

 

 



Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 14 2007 at 14:50
SEBTP- 4 stars

I recently sold Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme- couldnt stand them.

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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 08:10
The albums I have in order:
 
Trick of the Tail
 
Selling England by the Pound
 
Nursery Chryme
 
Foxtrot
 
Live
 
From Genesis to Revelations - massively underrated album IMO
 
Wind and Wuthering
 
And Then There Were Three
 
Trespass - Vastly overrated IMO. I love White Mountain, really enjoy Visions of Angels and The Knife, but find the rest of the album pretty bland.
 
Only other album I'm interested in obtaining is Lamb.
 


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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 09:25
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I am sorry but I am moving this to Prog Recommendations.It would be more interesting if you guys (and gals) actually stated how and why you came to your conclusions......[IMG]alt=Wink src="smileys/smiley2.gif" align=absMiddle>

 

what arguments should we actually say to a most simple (and repeated a lot, hint) rank? [IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
I agree. For the core albums, the reasons are subtle. There are just some I like to listen to more than others. "From Genesis to Revelation" just has a charming quality to it, and makes me like it more than some others.



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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 09:36
Duke
Wind & Wuthering
Selling England By The Pound
Trick Of The Tail
Foxtrot
Genesis
Abacab
Trespass
Nursery Cryme
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway

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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 18:59
My Ranking :
 
Foxtrot                               StarStarStarStarStar
Trespass                             StarStarStarStarStar
Nursery Cryme                     StarStarStarStar
Selling England by the Pound StarStarStarStar
TLLDOB                              StarStarStar


Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 19:26
From those I have heard my ranking is thus:
 
TRESPASS StarStar
FOXTROTStarStarStarStar
SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUNDStarStarStar
LAMB LIES DOWN....sides 1&2StarStarStarStar sides 3&4Star
WIND & WUTHERINGStarStarStarStarStar
DUKEStarStarStarStar
ABACABStar


Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 19:34
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I think SEBTP has only one flaw- More Fool Me. It's not even THAT bad either, but it's weak compared to the rest. I love the rest- yes, even The Battle Of Epping Forest. Before I came here I had no idea it wasn't too popular, and I loved it as much as most anything else there. Tony Banks incidentally considers 'After The Ordeal' to be the worst thing they ever recorded. I could think of at least 10 worse songs, and I love After The Ordeal too- gorgeous music on that.
 
I disagree. SEBTP is the one album that IMO dosn't belong in a graetest prog top 10. Gabriel's phoney accents is a put off for starters. Banks's solo on Cinema Show is overlong and meandering & apart from Hackett's solo on Firth Of Fifth his guitar playing is not impressive.
 
Just my oppinion.


Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 20:31
1- Selling England
2- The Lamb
3- Wind and Wuthering
4- A Trick of the Tail
5- Foxtrot
6- Nursery Cryme
7- Live 1973
8- Seconds Out


Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 00:59
-A Trick of the Tail
-Wind & Wuthering
-Archives 1967-75 (great "Supper`s Ready "and "Lamb" live)
-Seconds Out
-...and then there were three...
 -Foxtrot
 -Nursery Cryme
-Genesis Live
 -The Lamb...
-Trespass
-From Genesis to Revelation
-Three Sides Live
-We Can`t Dance
-The Way We Walk-the Longs
-Duke
-Selling England by the Pound
-The way we walk-the shorts
-abacab
-Invisible Touch (an album that I have not listened since late 2000)
-Calling all stations
-Genesis (an album that I have not listened since late 2000)
 
I still don`t have the "Archives 1976-92" Box Set. I`m not going to buy the "Turn it on again the hits" and the recent three CD compilation which name I don`t remember now.
 
 
 


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 01:10
[QUOTE=raindance] SEBTP is the one album that IMO dosn't belong in a graetest prog top 10. Gabriel's phoney accents is a put off for starters.[QUOTE]


I like his theatrics, it was a natural extension of what the Beatles started and influenced Roger Water's pomp showmanship on the Wall.
    


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 01:25
Lets see:
 
  1. Foxtrot: 10/10
  2. Nursery Cryme 10/10
  3. Trespass 9.5/10
  4. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 9.5/10
  5. Archives I - The Gabriel Years 9.5/10
  6. Live 9/10
  7. SEBTP 9/10
  8. W&W 8.5/10
  9. ATOTT 7/10
  10. Seconds Out 6/10
  11. From Genesis toi the Revelation 5/10
  12. Duke 2/10
  13. The Sides Live 2/10 (Only one side is worth)
  14. ATTW3 2/10
  15. Archives II 1/10 (Only two or three songs worth)
  16. Invisible Touch 1/10 (Only because of The Brazilian)
  17. CAS 0/10
  18. ABACAB 0/10
  19. We Can't Dance 0/10
  20. Shapes -1 Angry

Iván

 



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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 02:07
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Lets see:
 
Shapes -1 Angry

Iván

 

 
I agree with you. "Shapes" (aka the self-titled album) is their worst. It sounds like a "contract obligation album", IMO. It also brings me sad memories, so due to  the connection to those sad memories my rating for this album is maybe not very fair, but...most of the songs in this album are boring anyway. Even "Calling All Stations" is better!


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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 04:31
Originally posted by Guillermo Guillermo wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Lets see:
 
Shapes -1 Angry

Iván

 

 
I agree with you. "Shapes" (aka the self-titled album) is their worst. It sounds like a "contract obligation album", IMO. It also brings me sad memories, so due to  the connection to those sad memories my rating for this album is maybe not very fair, but...most of the songs in this album are boring anyway. Even "Calling All Stations" is better!
 
I disagree with both of you. The self-titled album (aka "Shapes") is still 3-man-era-Genesis at their creative peak. I have always (since 1983) found it more interesting than "ATTWT",  slightly better than "Abacab", but not as good as "Duke". On the following albums "Invisible Touch" and "We Can't Dance" it's obvious that Banks/Collins/Rutherford began to run out of steam (as song-writers). It's perhaps a good thing that they made only two studio albums together the last ten years before Collins left.
 


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 09:28
I feel the second half of 'Shapes' is very weak indeed. The first half is fine to excellent- Mama and Home By The Sea I think were reasonably successful updates of their 70s sound into the 80s, while That's All is reasonable AOR.

The second half though I think was rushed. 'Illegal Alien' is simply embarassingly dreadful, 'Just A Job To Do' and 'Taking It All Too Hard' are unmemorable imho, 'It's Gonna Get Better' I find quite dull- 'Silver Rainbow' is the best track of that half.

When asked about the album I think Mike Rutherford praised how consistently good the first side was but never even mentioned the second. Hmm... But that's just my opinion, of course.

I think all of the post Duke albums of the 80s had half a good album at best. Too many ballads and rather lacklustre R & B attempts gummed them up a lot of the time. I simply don't blame Phil Collins alone for that though- there were three members in the band. Two of them weren't Phil Collins. And Tony Banks 80s solo output and Mike and The Mechanics are scarcely better than Phil's solo stuff.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 12:06
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

It's perhaps a good thing that they made only two studio albums together the last ten years before Collins left.
 
 
It would have ben much better if they did no more albums after Seconds Out or at least change their name. Wink
 
Iván


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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 12:28
First - The six albums with Hackett chronologically
Seventh - The album just before Hackett joined
Eighth - Archive 1
Ninth - The other two live albums with Hackett, again chronologically
Eleventh - The first album after Hackett left
Thirteenth - The first Genesis album
Fourteenth - the remaining Genesis albums
 
Can you tell I like Hackett?! Thumbs Up
 


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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 12:39
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

It's perhaps a good thing that they made only two studio albums together the last ten years before Collins left.
 

 

It would have ben much better if they did no more albums after Seconds Out or at least change their name. [IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

 

Iván

    
I think ATTWT (and even "Duke" to some extent) was still in line with the natural evolution of the Genesis sound. Abacab was where they truly turned the corner.

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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 13:21
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

Originally posted by Guillermo Guillermo wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Lets see:
 
Shapes -1 Angry

Iván

 

 
I agree with you. "Shapes" (aka the self-titled album) is their worst. It sounds like a "contract obligation album", IMO. It also brings me sad memories, so due to  the connection to those sad memories my rating for this album is maybe not very fair, but...most of the songs in this album are boring anyway. Even "Calling All Stations" is better!
 
I disagree with both of you. The self-titled album (aka "Shapes") is still 3-man-era-Genesis at their creative peak. I have always (since 1983) found it more interesting than "ATTWT",  slightly better than "Abacab", but not as good as "Duke". On the following albums "Invisible Touch" and "We Can't Dance" it's obvious that Banks/Collins/Rutherford began to run out of steam (as song-writers). It's perhaps a good thing that they made only two studio albums together the last ten years before Collins left.
 
 
As Salmacis also wrote, Rutherford said in one interview done in 2003, I think (still included in their official website) that he thinks that "shapes" was their best album! (incredible, but true!). Banks and him agreed that the second side wasn`t as good as the first, and the three of them didn`t like "ATTWT" anymore! Collins said that for him "The Lamb" was their best!
 
I wrote about this album before, in my review in Prog Archives: "Mama" is an awful "horror movie" song. "That`s All" is good and has funny lyrics. "Home by the sea" is more or less good, but "Second Home by the Sea" is boring, like they were thinking "How are we going to fill one side of this album?". "Illegal Alien" has offensive lyrics, IMO. "Taking it all too hard" is a ballad a la Collins. "Just a Job to Do" is another Pop song. From "Silver Rainbow" I only like the music from the first verse. "It`s Gonna Get Better" is the best of the album, with good lyrics and music.
 
Anyway, it is only a matte of taste. Many people likes this album a lot.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 14:18
Originally posted by Guillermo Guillermo wrote:

Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

Originally posted by Guillermo Guillermo wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Lets see:
 
Shapes -1 Angry

Iván

 

 
I agree with you. "Shapes" (aka the self-titled album) is their worst. It sounds like a "contract obligation album", IMO. It also brings me sad memories, so due to  the connection to those sad memories my rating for this album is maybe not very fair, but...most of the songs in this album are boring anyway. Even "Calling All Stations" is better!
 
I disagree with both of you. The self-titled album (aka "Shapes") is still 3-man-era-Genesis at their creative peak. I have always (since 1983) found it more interesting than "ATTWT",  slightly better than "Abacab", but not as good as "Duke". On the following albums "Invisible Touch" and "We Can't Dance" it's obvious that Banks/Collins/Rutherford began to run out of steam (as song-writers). It's perhaps a good thing that they made only two studio albums together the last ten years before Collins left.
 
 
As Salmacis also wrote, Rutherford said in one interview done in 2003, I think (still included in their official website) that he thinks that "shapes" was their best album! (incredible, but true!). Banks and him agreed that the second side wasn`t as good as the first, and the three of them didn`t like "ATTWT" anymore! Collins said that for him "The Lamb" was their best!
 
I wrote about this album before, in my review in Prog Archives: "Mama" is an awful "horror movie" song. "That`s All" is good and has funny lyrics. "Home by the sea" is more or less good, but "Second Home by the Sea" is boring, like they were thinking "How are we going to fill one side of this album?". "Illegal Alien" has offensive lyrics, IMO. "Taking it all too hard" is a ballad a la Collins. "Just a Job to Do" is another Pop song. From "Silver Rainbow" I only like the music from the first verse. "It`s Gonna Get Better" is the best of the album, with good lyrics and music.
 
Anyway, it is only a matte of taste. Many people likes this album a lot.


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Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 20:22
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

[QUOTE=raindance] SEBTP is the one album that IMO dosn't belong in a graetest prog top 10. Gabriel's phoney accents is a put off for starters.[QUOTE]


I like his theatrics, it was a natural extension of what the Beatles started and influenced Roger Water's pomp showmanship on the Wall.
    
 
Visually I totally agree. No one was better than Gabriel at ating out a story, A very unique performer indeedClap
 
However, his varying takes on English accents are a big turn off for me!


Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 20:24
1. Foxtrot
2. Selling England
3. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
4. Trespass
5. A Trick Of The Tail
6. Nursery Cryme
7. Wind And Wuthering




Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 17:22
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



20. Shapes -1      



I finally heard it. I just can't agree more. My review will follow. Abacab wasn't that bad, still haven't heard IT and WCD, but after listening to all-time-worst Genesis song "Illegal alien", I just don't see any way those two albums could be worse than this.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:51
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



20. Shapes -1      



I finally heard it. I just can't agree more. My review will follow. Abacab wasn't that bad, still haven't heard IT and WCD, but after listening to all-time-worst Genesis song "Illegal alien", I just don't see any way those two albums could be worse than this.
 
Illegal Alien the worst song?
 
No way, it's terrible but wait till you listen this deep lyrics:
 
Quote
Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Who dunnit?

I didnt, i, I didnt do it....

Oh but we know, we know, we know...

So was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it you or was it me?
Who dunnit?

I, i, I didnt, I didnt do it...

But we know, we know, we know...
Yeah we dont know, we dont know, we dont know...
We all know, we all know, we all know...
 
And even worst the music that goes with them.
 
Honestly, every song in Love Beach is a masterpiece compared with this "thing".
 
Iván


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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:57
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



20. Shapes -1      



I finally heard it. I just can't agree more. My review will follow. Abacab wasn't that bad, still haven't heard IT and WCD, but after listening to all-time-worst Genesis song "Illegal alien", I just don't see any way those two albums could be worse than this.
 
Illegal Alien the worst song?
 
No way, it's terrible but wait till you listen this deep lyrics:
 
Quote
Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Who dunnit?

I didnt, i, I didnt do it....

Oh but we know, we know, we know...

So was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it you or was it me?
Who dunnit?

I, i, I didnt, I didnt do it...

But we know, we know, we know...
Yeah we dont know, we dont know, we dont know...
We all know, we all know, we all know...
 
And even worst the music that goes with them.
 
Honestly, every song in Love Beach is a masterpiece compared with this "thing".
 
Iván
 
Who Dunnit makes Jethro Tull's "A" seem like another Tarkus or CTTEWink


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 23:49
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



20. Shapes -1      



I finally heard it. I just can't agree more. My review will follow. Abacab wasn't that bad, still haven't heard IT and WCD, but after listening to all-time-worst Genesis song "Illegal alien", I just don't see any way those two albums could be worse than this.
 
Illegal Alien the worst song?
 
No way, it's terrible but wait till you listen this deep lyrics:
 
Quote
Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Who dunnit?

I didnt, i, I didnt do it....

Oh but we know, we know, we know...

So was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it a or was it b?
Or was it x or z?

Was it you or was it me?
Or was it he or she?
Was it you or was it me?
Who dunnit?

I, i, I didnt, I didnt do it...

But we know, we know, we know...
Yeah we dont know, we dont know, we dont know...
We all know, we all know, we all know...
 
And even worst the music that goes with them.
 
Honestly, every song in Love Beach is a masterpiece compared with this "thing".
 
Iván
 
 
The lyrics are incredibly atrocious and the music horrendous, but at least we don't hear that MOST ANNOYING SINCE CAR ALARMS THAT WAKE YOU UP AT SIX O CLOCK ON A SUNDAY "accent" that Collins uses when singing "Illegal Alien".... it's just unbeareble... it's also insulting, devoid of any irony, sarcasm, INTELLIGENCE. And to top that, the stupid photo with all three wearing moustaches....(well, that's not a music-related complaint but anyway, it sucks).... No, I jjust wrote I review when I made my case that that song only catapults SHAPES to the last place not only between Genesis' albums but also between N'Sync ones....AngryAngry
 
Really, I could listen "who dunnit" and I'd feel stupid. I hear "Illegal" and suddenly I feel ASHAMED TO BE HEARING GENESIS... now how often can that happen


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 17:25
  Difficult thing to do but here it is:
 
   Selling England by the Pound
   Foxtrot
   And Then There Were three
   Nursery Crymes
   Wind and Wuthering
   The Lamb Lies Down on Brodway
   Tresspass
   A Trick of the tail
   Duke
   Calling All Stations
   From Genesis to Revelations
   We Can't Dance
   Genesis
   Invisible touch
   Abacab


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 18:27
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

  Difficult thing to do but here it is:
 

   Selling England by the Pound

   Foxtrot

   And Then There Were three

   Nursery Crymes

   Wind and Wuthering

   The Lamb Lies Down on Brodway

   Tresspass

   A Trick of the tail

   Duke

   Calling All Stations

   From Genesis to Revelations

   We Can't Dance

   Genesis

   Invisible touch

   Abacab


Incredible, at last somebody that likes ATTWT as much as I do. It's not a popular album around here as I see, and I don't understand... it's no FOX nor SEBTP but it has great songs.
    

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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 20:26
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

  Difficult thing to do but here it is:
 

   Selling England by the Pound

   Foxtrot

   And Then There Were three

   Nursery Crymes

   Wind and Wuthering

   The Lamb Lies Down on Brodway

   Tresspass

   A Trick of the tail

   Duke

   Calling All Stations

   From Genesis to Revelations

   We Can't Dance

   Genesis

   Invisible touch

   Abacab


Incredible, at last somebody that likes ATTWT as much as I do. It's not a popular album around here as I see, and I don't understand... it's no FOX nor SEBTP but it has great songs.
    
 
Yes. ATTWT is a very good album, maybe the best they recorded as a trio.


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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 06:58

Havn't heard too much of them, but here goes:

  1. Foxtrot
  2. Nursery Cryme
  3. Genesis Live
  4. Duke
  5. Invisible Touch

Embarrassed




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