Complex, Blues-Driven Prog
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Topic: Complex, Blues-Driven Prog
Posted By: jimmy_row
Subject: Complex, Blues-Driven Prog
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:01
I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
Cheers 
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:17
This one was recommended by T Rox in the another thread:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000003IX9/sr=1-1/qid=1185466427/ref=dp_image_0/002-9915123-7140069?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1185466427&sr=1-1">
You can listen to samples here: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Sessions-1971-72-Scott-Fraternity/dp/B000003IX9/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9915123-7140069?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185466427&sr=1-1 - http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Sessions-1971-72-Scott-Fraternity/dp/B000003IX9/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9915123-7140069?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185466427&sr=1-1
The lead vocalist is Bon Scott, but this doesn't sound at all like AC/DC; it's firmly in the post-psych/blues-rock vein. They even do a Moody Blues cover (Question)...I'm looking for a copy right now 
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Posted By: GentleGiant
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:10
I'm not an expert on blues but I can recomand a killer blues prog album with the danish band BEEFEATERS-"Meet You There" (1969) released on Repertoire Records in 1994
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:12
jimmy_row wrote:
I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
Cheers  |
I'm far from sure the 4 way hybrid you requests exists. However, I'll have a go hitting in the general area of two or three of those targets:
Keef Hartley Band - especially Halfbreed Colosseum - especially Those Who Are About To Die Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ; another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free! Spooky Tooth - no specific album although Best Of.. might be a starting place - a magnificent cover of I Am The Walrus might be what you;re looking for.
Then I guess drifting away from the targets: Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond Quatermass Hammond!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:47
Dick Heath wrote:
jimmy_row wrote:
I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
Cheers 
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I'm far from sure the 4 way hybrid you requests exists. I know I know...wishful thinking I guess (imagine Hammil singing lead for The Allman Bro's )However, I'll have a go hitting in the general area of two or three of those targets:
Keef Hartley Band - especially Halfbreed Colosseum - especially Those Who Are About To Die I've heard Valentyne Suite...great album, they've been on my "A List" for a while, I'll look for this one soon Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ; another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free! never heard of 'em!! I'm on it Spooky Tooth - no specific album although Best Of.. might be a starting place - a magnificent cover of I Am The Walrus might be what you;re looking for. Good band
Then I guess drifting away from the targets: Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond Quatermass Hammond! yyyyyyeaaaah! heard of 'em but havn't come across the album yet (seems to me it's in the Deep Purple/Atomic Rooster vein)
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:49
GentleGiant wrote:
I'm not an expert on blues but I can recomand a killer blues prog album with the danish band BEEFEATERS-"Meet You There" (1969) released on Repertoire Records in 1994
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Danish blues rock? I must hear it!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:56
jimmy_row wrote:
Stray Dog (but lacks the Hammond) ; another Texas band influenced by ZZ Top as early as 1972 - guitarist, Snuffy Walden even stood in for an "indisposed" Paul Kossoff of Free! never heard of 'em!! I'm on it Groundhogs (e.g. Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb). No Hammond Quatermass Hammond! yyyyyyeaaaah! heard of 'em but havn't come across the album yet (seems to me it's in the Deep Purple/Atomic Rooster vein)
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Stray Dog were the first American signing to ELP's Manticore label; Greg Lake produced their first self titled album. Stray Dog released on CD with bonus live recordings (e.g. some done during rehearsals for the Reading Festival 1973) issued by the American label The Wild Places (WILD008) - although a remastered version has been issued by a Japanese label more recently. That rehearsal version of Crazy, has been a favourite for a long time from when it was first issued back in 1992 by Renaissance Records (San Diego) as part of the Buried Treasures compilation CD.
Quatermass issued on CD by http://www.freakemporium.com/site/list_label.cgi?label=Repertoire%20Records - - REP 5087
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:04
I think Biglietto Per L'Inferno's debut album would fit the hard rock side of prog. And it has Hammond in it.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:09
jimmy_row wrote:
I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
Cheers  |
Try Jimmy Bell's Still In Town by The Numbers Band - re-released by David Thomas of Pere Ubu, who says this of it:
For 30 years, in a small town 40 miles south of Cleveland, Ohio, The Numbers Band have kept the blues alive. Where the guardians of the form starved it of innovation, 15-60-75 nurtured abstract evolution. Where the priests of Budweiser Blues droned old catechisms by rote, 15-60-75 aspired to vision. They play blues reimbued with meaning, purged and purified by flame, shorn of every superfluous moment, sound or word. Because their songs are compiled across a series of markers -- words, sounds, phrases and pauses -- they don't count measures and can't outline the structure of their own songs to an outsider. For the blues, a form routinely approached as a compendium of formulas, this is startling, and it means that any change of personnel necessitates months of not just relearning but rewriting every song. It is a methodology from another planet -- Don Van Vliet and Sun Ra come to mind. It is form dedicated to vision. David Thomas, Pere Ubu.
There are some samples on this site http://www.numbersband.com/ - http://www.numbersband.com/
and the album is available as a download from emusic. 2 guitars, bass, drums, 3 saxes with some doubling on organ, congas and harmonica. Should be right up your street.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:12
No vocals but a very progressive blend of jazz, jazzrock and blues made Swedish band Karlsson and Hansson with awesome work on the Hammond organ by Bo Hansson (later known prog musician)
Other recommendations: Quatermass and Julian's Treatment (great female vocals by Cathy Pruden)
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:13
Buy Stone The Crows' "Ode To John Law" (1970). My second favourite album of all time, it's a brilliant fusion of blues-rock, soul, psych and prog, with fantastic Janis Joplin-style vocals from Maggie Bell.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:17
jimmy_row wrote:
I'm a big fan of blues and hard rock in addition to our beloved prog rock, so let's discuss/recommend bands that combined the complexities and quirkiness of prog with driving rhythmns and heavy, bluesy vocals.
in an attempt to describe what I'm looking for: picture The Almann Brothers meets early ZZ Top meets Yes and VdGG....so something a little bit more "proggy" than say Uriah Heep and Captain Beyond.
Oh, and bonus points if it contains heavy, bombastic hammond organ.
Cheers  |
Mandy recommended a RPI album that fits perfectly what you are looking for... for that reason I wasn't too keen on it at first ... .but it has grown on me. The Crystals...
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2885 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2885
there is another one though that I personally love and ..and saw Guillermo really digging the other day... Osage Tribe - Arrowhead. Some jazzy bits... but really '4 on the floor' hard prog.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:21
You might also want to try El Grupo, a great blues-rock-fusion band with Steve Lukather. I don't remember any organs on the album, but you can check it out here: http://www.stevelukather.net/Album.aspx?id=339 - http://www.stevelukather.net/Album.aspx?id=339
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:12
Wow, a thank you to everyone for your responses, I've got quite a lot of research to do...
Dick: Stray Dog seems to be somewhat of a forgotten tragedy; apparently they actually toured with ELP but couldn't find a proper fanbase (I guess those proggers didn't like the heavy southern rock  )
Progismylife: I've heard good things about Biglietto, they made their way onto my "A List" of future purchases a while back....with pretty much every other RPI band on here  . It sure is tough keeping up with such limited finances...
Syzygy: Such an enthusiastic review can't help but pique my interest; not one, not two, but 3 (!) saxes, Good God! I can't seem to find much information about The Numbers Band but Wayside music has the album you speak of-that's a good sign.
erik: I really need to get this Quatermass album, Deep Purple and Uriah Heep fans just rave about these guys. You know I'm going to look for the Hansson and Karlsson becuase you said those magic words (hammond organ)
politician: I've heard Stone the Crows at some point, can't say I remember a lot about them but I know soul + psych + prog = brilliance
micky: I noticed some talk about Osage Tribe so I've had them on my list too (I take it they're on the archives so it shouldn't be too hard to find info). Btw, I hate to sound like a complete n00b, but who is that band in your sig? I imagine they are Italian...boy oh boy there's two keyboardists and one's playing a mellotron, I must hear this band!
andu: I'm listening to the clips right now; blues with a modern touch and excellent playing.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:30
Ever heard of Corte Dei Miracoli, Jimmy Row? See my review on this site, you will be excited after reading it and even more hungry to get it And Alphataurus their eponymous album and Gli Alluminogeni their first, lots of blues and Hammond organ (my #2 favorite vintage keyboard ), again see my reviews on this site!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:38
jimmy_row wrote:
micky: I noticed some talk about Osage Tribe so I've had them on my list too (I take it they're on the archives so it shouldn't be too hard to find info). Btw, I hate to sound like a complete n00b, but who is that band in your sig? I imagine they are Italian...boy oh boy there's two keyboardists and one's playing a mellotron, I must hear this band!
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I love it ... they are here at PA's.... I gave the album 5 stars, Bob Callero might have been the best bassist out of Italy in the 70's. Here you get to hear him tear it up hahhah
I brought back the ol' signature.... it's Biglietto per L'inferno. Great group... not exactly 'blues' orientated... but great stuff regardless.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:43
^^okay I thought it may be something I've heard of; I've never listened to them though...they're one of those "dark" Italian bands like Jumbo and Il Balletto di Bronzo. As you can tell, I read lotsa reviews
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 20:50
jimmy_row wrote:
^^okay I thought it may be something I've heard of; I've never listened to them though...they're one of those "dark" Italian bands like Jumbo and Il Balletto di Bronzo. As you can tell, I read lotsa reviews |
hahahha... just don't read mine.. they suck
They are not exactly what you asked for in the thread... but I think you'd like their first. I haven't made up my mind on the second yet... still sitting on the fence, that's why I haven't reviewed it yet.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 21:03
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 02:12
I just remembered a few bands I've come across on Pandora at some point... http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-2041175-5463217?loc=http%3A//music.search.ebay.com/Leviathan-Leviathan_Music_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfromZR4QQsacatZ11233">
This one looks (and sounds of course) interesting: Leviathin, an american prog/post-pyche band in the early 70's. After searching a bit, I found scads of these type of bands with a hybrid of blues and proto-prog such as Bram Stoker, Arc, Proto Kaw, etc. It seems that many of the US prog bands in the 70's had this style (mixing sounds popular in the states like boogie rock with influence from British bands)...but sadly these bands all went unnoticed as prog didn't have as much commercial value in America. One of the few I can think of that had some success was Kansas with their early albums, merging American rock with European prog.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 02:21
erik neuteboom wrote:
Ever heard of Corte Dei Miracoli, Jimmy Row? See my review on this site, you will be excited after reading it and even more hungry to get it And Alphataurus their eponymous album and Gli Alluminogeni their first, lots of blues and Hammond organ (my #2 favorite vintage keyboard ), again see my reviews on this site! |
Strangely I missed this earlier (all these bands flying around   )
I've heard of Corte Dei Miracoli - they're on my list simply because...they're Italian; I'll check your review. I've listened to Alphataurus, and it's brilliant. Maybe not heavy or bluesy but exactly the vintage keys sound that I crave (if I can recall there's a 15-20 minute suite on there with all kinds of hammond/mellotron exercises)
Don't know Gli Alluminogeni, I'll check your review there too.
Cheers 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 06:33
Can't add much to what Dick said; I would have chosen the same albums. However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 11:17
salmacis wrote:
However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
A nice call: Keith Ralf with ?? (Medicine Head, a duo signed to John Peel's Dandelion label, I seem to recall??) - therefore perhaps the Yardbirds connection is more relevant than Renaissance...???
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?
Yes why not, Stray perhaps more than May Blitz......
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Is suggesting the Baker Gurvitz Army going too far......? Even tempted to suggest Mayall's Bare Wires album
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 12:54
I should definitely check out Quatermass!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:48
salmacis wrote:
Can't add much to what Dick said; I would have chosen the same albums. However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
I know this one cooks if Keith Relf plays on it, the man had talent (I imagine this project was not long before he sadly passed away)
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too? Never heard of these two....having a rough time finding anything from Stray; found some sound clips of May Blitz, seems very dated but it's in the right direction none the less, maybe not much "prog" in it so to speak. I'll keep a look out for Armageddon. |
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:53
Dick Heath wrote:
salmacis wrote:
However, I'll suggest a band and album called Armageddon which I got recently. I think they emerged from the original line-up of Renaissance (before Annie Haslam etc.); it's a largely heavy rock album but with some prog moments here and there (a 12 minute epic rounds it off). Was playing it yesterday and the production is fairly poor in parts but it's well worth a listen.
A nice call: Keith Ralf with ?? (Medicine Head, a duo signed to John Peel's Dandelion label, I seem to recall??) - therefore perhaps the Yardbirds connection is more relevant than Renaissance...???
Stray MIGHT fit the bill too; the first three albums are primarily heavy rock albums (Stray, Suicide, Saturday Morning Pictures) but I think they have some prog moments here and there, IMHO of course. Perhaps the two May Blitz albums too?
Yes why not, Stray perhaps more than May Blitz......
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Is suggesting the Baker Gurvitz Army going too far......? Even tempted to suggest Mayall's Bare Wires album
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Baker Gurvitz Army? I take it that is a Ginger Baker project, so I'll expect lots of bluesy jamming and near-virtuosic instrumentation. I'm a fan of Baker so it's inevitable that I will come to this one eventually (...truth be told I'm still yet to fully explore Cream's back catalogue  )
Mayall? Now we're talking...not any prog to speak of, but I'm also a Mayall fan though the only one I'm comfortably familiar with is Bluesbreakers. Barewires must be the one were Mick Taylor came in...a might jazzy that one is if I can recall correctly (a good thing in my book).
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 14:54
thanks again for responses, I'll post the one's I can find cheaply enough when I have time to look
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 20:37
Well I already have more than enough bands to explore but I keep bumping into more....can't help my curiosity so here's more blues/heavy/progressive groups;
I've heard very little to nothing from them so it would help if you could give opinions if anyone has heard these:
Bram Stoker
Bloodrock
Zerfas
Tucky Buzzard
Fuzzy Duck
Iron Butterfly
Arc
Dear Mr. Time
Raw Material
Titus Groan
Hopefully there's at least a couple ringers out of those; I have a preference for the heavier and more complex bands (a lot in this style can be derivative and lack uniqueness)
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 23:13
jimmy_row wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000003IX9/sr=1-1/qid=1185466427/ref=dp_image_0/002-9915123-7140069?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1185466427&sr=1-1">
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You have spotted where my current avatar was borrowed from 
I was thinking the Blind Faith's one and only album might also be worth checking out for the style of music you are chasing, though probably more mainstream blues-rock. With messers Clapton, Winwood & Baker you can't really go wrong ... and there are proto-prog-type touches here and there.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 07:24
jimmy_row wrote:
Baker Gurvitz Army? I take it that is a Ginger Baker project, so I'll expect lots of bluesy jamming and near-virtuosic instrumentation. I'm a fan of Baker so it's inevitable that I will come to this one eventually (...truth be told I'm still yet to fully explore Cream's back catalogue  )
Mayall? Now we're talking...not any prog to speak of, but I'm also a Mayall fan though the only one I'm comfortably familiar with is Bluesbreakers. Barewires must be the one were Mick Taylor came in...a might jazzy that one is if I can recall correctly (a good thing in my book). |
Baker Gurvitz Army is a band I listen to now - and I've made the mistake of buying a belatedly released live album to add to an old vinyl recording - and disliking most of what I hear. Too few good tunes - although those that work have the added force of a powered up Baker on drums. The Gurvitz brothers were the core of the short lived late 60's British rock group Gun - with a pretty good, one hit wonder, Race With The Devil.
Mick Taylor first appeared with the Bluesbreakers on Diary Of A Band Volume 1Volume 2 and - Decca Record sold the set as separate LPs! Quality is rather bootleg - but Mayall seemed to record his band at all gigs from the mid 60s, although his recording equipment left something to be desired. (BTW There is a worse quality, legit live recording of the BBs with Clapton and Bruce, pre-Cream.) What is so good about Diary of A Band, is that Mayall finds space across the LPs to illustrate the progression of Taylor as a guitarist during that tour - have to mention Dick Heckstall-Smith also shines as a lead instrumentalist. The Bare Wire LP features a connected suite of songs, ie. the Bare Wires - a sort of but not quite concept blues record.
Coincidentally John Mayall was on BBC Radio 4 this morning apparently being interviewed about the "Hotel California music and business scene" in LA (by BBC Radio One Chief Programme Controller). To reflect the shallowness of this radio series - Barney Hoskins' book and associated BBC TV 4 series have done it so much better - all Mayall was allowed to say was about the destruction of 21 homes in Laurel Canyon in the early 70's ... nothing about the music. The main thing I've gained from this series is that the controller of Radio One is an Eagles freak!!!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 07:36
jimmy_row wrote:
Well I already have more than enough bands to explore but I keep bumping into more....can't help my curiosity so here's more blues/heavy/progressive groups;
I've heard very little to nothing from them so it would help if you could give opinions if anyone has heard these:
Bram Stoker
Bloodrock
Zerfas
Tucky Buzzard
Fuzzy Duck
Iron Butterfly
Arc
Dear Mr. Time
Raw Material
Titus Groan
Hopefully there's at least a couple ringers out of those; I have a preference for the heavier and more complex bands (a lot in this style can be derivative and lack uniqueness) |
Check out PA's compilation section for the late60's/early 70's compilations released by British record labels in the last 5 years, which may reveal samples of some of these bands:
Legend Of A Mind (Decca/Deram) Strangely Strange Oddly Peculiar (Island) Ars Longa Vita Brevis (Castle Communication) Time Machine (Vertigo) All Good Clean Fun (Liberty/UA0 Breath Of Fresh Air (Harvest)
As soon as I typed the last title, I am reminded of Pete Brown (Jack Bruce's lyricist) various bands - Harvest Records issued a compilation in the last two years Living Life Backwards. With Graham Bond, Chris Spedding, Dick Heckstall-Smith in various of these line-ups, expect something interesting. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Life-Backwards-Best-Brown/dp/B000CBVMG8/ref=sr_1_2/026-9761107-6138031?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185622493&sr=1-2
    
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 10:01
Do not expect much out of Baker Gurvitz Army. I had two of their albums- the debut and 'Hearts On Fire'- and there was not much virtuosity (apart from tedious drum solos), just fairly bland AOR, IMHO. Three Man Army were never more than second division either BUT they are better and more in line with what you are looking for, imho. 'A Third Of A Lifetime' is quite decent.
Remembered another band I have; Toe Fat. The first album is just standard heavy rock (featuring two members of Uriah Heep, Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake, John Glascock later of Jethro Tull and Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer) but the second
is a little bit more bluesy and progressive-oriented too. I think one song features Peter Green on guitar, too, although Hensley and Kerslake had gone by then.
AFAIK, the rest of the John Mayall back catalogue is due for release in remastered and expanded form. Some were done last year (the Bluesbreakers w/Clapton album was an excellent 2 disc set, and featured the aforementioned gig with Clapton/Bruce, I think?).
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 10:20
Jimmy Row, here are my reviews about Fuzzy Duck and Bram Stoker, both albums contain very pleasant Hammond organ work :
FUZZY DUCK — Fuzzy Duck Review by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=3684 - erik neuteboom (erik neuteboom) SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Prog Expert
This is one of the many harder-edged and organ dominated progressive bands that emerged in the early Seventies. FUZZY DUCK’s music is simple but it touches me very much: pleasant vocals, a tight rhythm-section, strong guitarwork and, the most delightful element, floods of Hammond organ. This reminds me of Ken Hensley from early URIAH HEEP and Manfred Wieczorke from German heavy progressive band JANE. The guitarplay is also a good point, featuring fiery solos and catchy riffs. The final song “A word from bid D” includes the so called ‘ducking vocals’ from keyboardplayer Roy (Daze) Sharland, very funny to hear. FUZZY DUCK’s music has echoes from ATOMIC ROOSTER, SPENCER DAVIES GROUP, VANILLA FUDGE and QUATERMASS. If you like the Hammond organ, don’t miss this CD! By the way, I own the “Aftermath” CD version, it contains 11 tracks, including the previously unreleased “No Name Face”.
BRAM STOKER — Heavy Rock Spectacular / Schizo-PoltergeistReview by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=3684 - erik neuteboom (erik neuteboom) SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Prog Expert
Here is a gem from the Early British Progressive Rock Movement, unfortunately it was both a painstaking as a hardly impossible task to find information from this elusive band. Bram Stoker was a one shot band that released their album in 1972 under the title Heavy Rock Spectacular. In 1999 the label Audio Archive released the album with the same tracks but a different cover (to be seen along with this review) as a reissue CD, a year later the label Black Widow released it with the original artwork and in 2003 the label Akarma released it as CD reissue in a mini LP gatefold sleeve.
The eight melodic and dynamic compositions are Hammond organ drenched, the electric guitar is often distorted (fuzz) delivering some fiery soli but in general it is on the background. Bram Stoker their sound has elements from Atomic Rooster (Born to be free), ELP (Fast decay) and often Beggar's Opera, mainly due to the classical organ sound (for example Bach's Toccata In D-Fuga in Fast Decay and the long Fingal's Cave) and the pleasant vocals. The track Blitz has some Spanish flavored guitar undertones and sounds a bit dark. The final, horror-like song Poltergeist features floods of classical inspired organ. IF YOU LIKE HAMMOND DRENCHED SEVENTIES PROGROCK, I HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THIS CD!!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:45
sheesh, all the knowledge in here....I feel like such a youngster.
Let's see here, Blind Faith: it's been a while since I've heard this, I think I have some of the songs on various compilations....ah yes, Prescence of the Lord - that's a great track, beautiful Leslie-drenched solo from Clapton. There's a new edition on cd with an extra cd of bonuses, lots of Clapton/Winwood jamming in their prime. I'll have to check that out some time.
I've found this deluxe edition of the Bluesbreakers on Amazon (a bit pricey though, I'll have to find it used), I'll dig into that one for sure this fall/winter when I go on my annual blues-rock spree; I'm also curious about the Diary of a Band compilation, I'll look forward to a lot of grade A bluesrock  I like what I hear as per Pete Brown, strong resemblence to the old Cream style, great guitar playing (I can hear Graham Bond's keys in there too), I'll look for this one for sure. Perhaps I'll also find time to dive into Jeff Beck, I've been meaning to do that for some time...
erik: great reviews; the list of comparisons for Fuzzy Duck looks excellent. I believe they have a page on Myspace so I'll be able to sample some material. I look forward to that wonderful hammond sound. Bram Stoker: now that name just sounds heavy; this one will probably be difficult to come by but I'll find what info I can.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:48
Dick Heath wrote:
Coincidentally John Mayall was on BBC Radio 4 this morning apparently being interviewed about the "Hotel California music and business scene" in LA (by BBC Radio One Chief Programme Controller). To reflect the shallowness of this radio series - Barney Hoskins' book and associated BBC TV 4 series have done it so much better - all Mayall was allowed to say was about the destruction of 21 homes in Laurel Canyon in the early 70's ... nothing about the music. The main thing I've gained from this series is that the controller of Radio One is an Eagles freak!!!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:52
salmacis wrote:
Remembered another band I have; Toe Fat. The first album is just standard heavy rock (featuring two members of Uriah Heep, Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake, John Glascock later of Jethro Tull and Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer) but the second
is a little bit more bluesy and progressive-oriented too. I think one song features Peter Green on guitar, too, although Hensley and Kerslake had gone by then.
I've heard of Toe Fat from my Uriah Heep days...wasn't aware they actually recorded anything with Hensley in the band (shows what I know). I assume this formation was before The Gods if Pete Green was later then Hensley/Kerslake? |
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 12:08
Interesting topic Jimmy. Like others have said, the first one that comes to mind is Quatermass. We also shouldn't forget Atomic Rooster. They were part of that heavy, keyboard driven movement of British bands in the early '70s.
Coming soon (hopefully) to PA, is a new band from the U.S. called Contrarian. I'll have more about them later.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 14:07
salmacis wrote:
Cliff Bennett, a 60s R & B singer |
Have to remember ,for 'lending' the Beatles the Rebel Rousers to brass rock back Gotta Get You Into My Life (on Revolver), the Beatles allowed Cliff Bennett & The RRs to cover the tune as a single - became a minor hit.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 14:14
jimmy_row wrote:
I like what I hear as per Pete Brown, strong resemblence to the old Cream style, great guitar playing (I can hear Graham Bond's keys in there too), I'll look for this one for sure.
Perhaps I'll also find time to dive into Jeff Beck, I've been meaning to do that for some time... |
You should hear the deconstruction job his does on his tune Politician (and of course it was also Jack Bruce's!!!)
Beck certainly, but a tad drifting from the original objectives? Truth, Cosa Nostra Beckola, the so-called 'Orange' album (strictly The Jeff Beck Group), Rough &Ready and Beck Bogert and Appice, all have a lot of good stuff. Listen to the first two and wonder if Led Zeppelin followed Beck or vice versa?
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Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 16:52
Captain Beefheart is an excellent example of complex bluesy prog.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 18:26
Dick Heath wrote:
jimmy_row wrote:
I like what I hear as per Pete Brown, strong resemblence to the old Cream style, great guitar playing (I can hear Graham Bond's keys in there too), I'll look for this one for sure.
Perhaps I'll also find time to dive into Jeff Beck, I've been meaning to do that for some time... |
You should hear the deconstruction job his does on his tune Politician (and of course it was also Jack Bruce's!!!)
Beck certainly, but a tad drifting from the original objectives? yes probably...that's why I'll save him for my blues-feast with Mayall and Jack BruceTruth, Cosa Nostra Beckola, the so-called 'Orange' album (strictly The Jeff Beck Group), Rough &Ready and Beck Bogert and Appice, all have a lot of good stuff. Listen to the first two and wonder if Led Zeppelin followed Beck or vice versa?not surprisingly, Zeppelin did a lot of "following" on their early albums....just listen to Black Mountain Side, Whole Lotta Love, and The Lemon Song: the first rips off a Bert Jansch tune and the later two brought on a copyright lawsuit (it would be generous to say they "borrowed" a little from Willie Dixon)
| I'm excited to hear more Pete Brown with that all-star cast (especially Graham Bond, I'm a big fan of his style)
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 18:30
Hirgwath wrote:
Captain Beefheart is an excellent example of complex bluesy prog. | yes yes Safe as Milk is a good one...I've delayed looking into the controversial one, Trout Mask Replica...I've heard scary things, scary things I tellya. A friend of mine listened to that one and went mad, ears bleedin' too
I'd be curious to know about the more avant-rock oriented stuff with blues in it as I'm far from familiar with that type of music (or noise maybe?...okay sorry I'll quit) 
I've almost completed a good list of albums I've been able to check out that have gone on my "wishlist", I'll post it here shortly.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 22:29
Okay here we go, I've added these to my future purchases list:
THE A LIST (one's that I'll buy as soon as I can find a good price)
Spooky Tooth - Spooky Two (1969)...not progressive at all really; me likes what I hears though
Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You (1970) Just realized I don't have the bloody thing yet
Bon Scott and Fraternity - Complete Sessions 1971-1972 (1996)
Osage Tribe - Arrow Head (1972) couldn't find any samples but a certain RPI guru's review was all the convincing I needed...
Stray Dog - s/t (1973)
Stone the Crows - Ode to John Law (1971) okay, fellas I want you to go to there page on Myspace and listen to the organ sound on Sad Mary...here you go: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=85075531 - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=85075531
Fuzzy Duck - s/t (1971)
Quatermass - s/t (1970)
Colosseum - Those Who are About to Die We Salute You (1969)
The B List (find 'em cheap or wait a little longer...I'll get around to them eventually)
Beefeaters - Meet You There (1969)
Chicago Transit Authority - s/t (1969)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Rock Spectacular (1972) quite a name to live up to there
Lucifer's Friend - s/t (1970)
Armageddon - s/t (1975)
Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs (1974)
Bodkin - s/t (1972)
Keef Hartley Band - Halfbreed (1969
- Theh Time is Near (1970)
Keef Hartley - The Lancashire Hustler (1973)
Blue Oyster Cult - Secret Treaties (1974)
The C List (need more time to look)
Raw Material
Arc
Humble Pie
Dick Heckstall-Smith
Stray
Mogul Thrash ...John Wetton's first band
Toe Fat and Spice (pre-Heep)
Mountain (heard 'em....probably not any prog)
Head Machine
National Head Band
Allman Joys and Hourglass (pre-Allman Bro's)
Buffalo (complete with tasteless album cover....I'll go out on a limb and say it's the worst album cover I've ever seen...makes Love Beach look like a friggin Dean painting)
Lobby Loyde
need more info:
The Number's Band
Spectrum
Tully
Tempest
Sweet Pain
I get the feeling that there isn't a great deal of 'prog' in there, but I'm sure there will be some gems. What I really want to find is a bona-find prog album with a lot of heaviness and bluesy tendencies...I'm pretty sure the Colosseum debut album will fit right in (as well as the second one), and probably Stone the Crows.
btw, for anyone who is curious, you can find samples/full songs, etc of almost any of these by checking Myspace, fye.com, amazon, and use internet radio (Pandora is the best...but hurry before the big shots weed 'em out)
cheers
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 22:32
since I gave that album 5 stars... it comes with the 'Micky money-back guarantee' . If you are not satisfied with my recommendation.. PM me for a refund of your money
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 22:36
micky wrote:
since I gave that album 5 stars... it comes with the 'Micky money-back guarantee' . If you are not satisfied with my recommendation.. PM me for a refund of your money  | i've got to find it for under 20 bucks first...btf aint cheap
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 22:40
jimmy_row wrote:
micky wrote:
since I gave that album 5 stars... it comes with the 'Micky money-back guarantee' . If you are not satisfied with my recommendation.. PM me for a refund of your money  | i've got to find it for under 20 bucks first...btf aint cheap |
hahahha.... no BTF is not. I've had this guarantee in place for some time now... so don't be the first to call me on it I hope you like it... it's not Close to the Edge... but that is part of the charm of it, and the style it seems you were looking for. Be sure to let me know what you think of it... when you do get it hahha
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 00:07
micky wrote:
jimmy_row wrote:
micky wrote:
since I gave that album 5 stars... it comes with the 'Micky money-back guarantee' . If you are not satisfied with my recommendation.. PM me for a refund of your money  | i've got to find it for under 20 bucks first...btf aint cheap |
hahahha.... no BTF is not. I've had this guarantee in place for some time now... so don't be the first to call me on it I hope you like it... it's not Close to the Edge... but that is part of the charm of it, and the style it seems you were looking for. Be sure to let me know what you think of it... when you do get it hahha
| I surely will....if I get restless enough I may just shell out what I have to for it. You're talking to someone who's deprived himself of Zarathustra for a couple years...because I'm not willing to pay $30 for it ...I can live off of Uomo di Pezza for my RPI moods
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:12
I can't believe no one mention Jethro Tull or Procol Harum, two bands that happen to be artsy, heavy AND bloozy. Geez, what's wrong with you peoples?
And, hey, topic-starter dude who mentioned Iron Butterfly...they're awesome. Not all THAT bluesy, but very organ based. And heavy, if you can get the right album (i.e., Gadda, not Ball).
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:14
The Whistler wrote:
I can't believe no one mention Jethro Tull or Procol Harum, two bands that happen to be artsy, heavy AND bloozy. Geez, what's wrong with you peoples? |
yeah, good call
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:29
Atavachron wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
I can't believe no one mention Jethro Tull or Procol Harum, two bands that happen to be artsy, heavy AND bloozy. Geez, what's wrong with you peoples? |
yeah, good call
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Yeah, no kidding. That call rocked.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 11:23
The Whistler wrote:
I can't believe no one mention Jethro Tull or Procol Harum, two bands that happen to be artsy, heavy AND bloozy. Geez, what's wrong with you peoples?
And, hey, topic-starter dude who mentioned Iron Butterfly...they're awesome. Not all THAT bluesy, but very organ based. And heavy, if you can get the right album (i.e., Gadda, not Ball). | Hello Whistler.
I can see you're a big Tull fan so I imagine we'll get along quite well 
I think that Tull hasn't been mentioned because they popular enough that most people would already know them...this thread was aimed at more obscure acts so bands such as Tull and Kansas who would obviously fit my specs have been left out. Come to think of it, I still need to get Living in the Past, Strormwatch, and This Was to complete my classic Tull collection....
If you can believe this, I've actually heard In-a-Gadda-di-Vidda on the radio several times in all it's 17 minute (?) glory, I just about flipped hearing it in between Bon Jovi and the GooGoo Dolls   Very 'jammy' and psychadelic; of course if it has organ it must be good...
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 11:23
jimmy_row wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
I can't believe no one mention Jethro Tull or Procol Harum, two bands that happen to be artsy, heavy AND bloozy. Geez, what's wrong with you peoples?
And, hey, topic-starter dude who mentioned Iron Butterfly...they're awesome. Not all THAT bluesy, but very organ based. And heavy, if you can get the right album (i.e., Gadda, not Ball). | Hello Whistler.
I can see you're a big Tull fan so I imagine we'll get along quite well 
I think that Tull hasn't been mentioned because they popular enough that most people would already know them...this thread was aimed at more obscure acts so bands such as Tull and Kansas who would obviously fit my specs have been left out. Come to think of it, I still need to get Living in the Past, Strormwatch, and This Was to complete my classic Tull collection....
If you can believe this, I've actually heard In-a-Gadda-di-Vidda on the radio several times in all it's 17 minute (?) glory, I just about flipped hearing it in between Bon Jovi and the GooGoo Dolls   Very 'jammy' and psychadelic; of course if it has organ it must be good...
edit: kudo's for posting Ronnie  |
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:49
OK, I throw in The Spencer Davis Group and Hardin & York, Eddie Hardin his Hammond work is amazing, check out Hardin & York Live In The 70s
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 23:14
Dr. Jimmy:
Gotta be careful with that Gadda stuff; for some, it's the greatest song ever, for others, not so much.
I do strongly recommend Procol Harum, but, if you like the Tull, another band you might just like (who were artsy and bloozy) is Family. Big influence on Ian Anderson. I have their first two albums, they're both great stuff.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 01:53
Two good suggestions here....Spencer Davis group, though not a progressive band, undoubtedly had some influence on early prog bands with their roaring hammond sound and soulfull R&B roots; Winwood was still honing his skills...his next band was to become legendary ...As for Family: here's a band I know somewhat and have been meaning to get into, my impression is that they were like a revved-up version of Stand Up-era Tull, of course with Roger Chapman's distinctive vocals on top. I'll definately check out their first two albums.
erik: I'm curious about Hardin & York; it seems that there is not much information about them anywhere....must be one of those secret bands that only erik knows about  .....and to think I had a hard enough time looking for Hansson and Karlsson 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 05:42
Well Jimmy Row, I discovered Hardin & York while working for the Dutch Background Magazine. We received a lot of stuff from the UK label Angel Air, including Eddie Hardin & York Live In The 70s, highly recommended to Hammond organ aficionados. And Hansson & Karlsson I discovered while working for the Dutch iO Pages progrock magazine when we received the eponymous CD compilation so it pays off to work for progrock magazines, it's incredible how many unknown but great stuff you receive
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 07:49
Strikes me if we are thinking Hammond, bluesy and heavy, why not Niacin without forgetting Jonas Helborg Group's e album predates Niacin. Niacin's John Novello tell me that he was influenced by Brian Auger, Keith Emerson, etc. so Oblivion Express, Trinity, Auger/Driscoll get added to the list - check out Brian Auger's own website for a host of tasty recordings:
http://brianauger.com/discography/discography.html - http://brianauger.com/discography/discography.html
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:16
Last week I discovered a video (I bought many years ago in a second hand record shop) in my collection with footage from Brian Auger live on a jazz festival, awesome Hammond organ performance, the one mindblowing solo after the other, this man should be on Prog Archives, good call Dick
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 01:51
erik neuteboom wrote:
Well Jimmy Row, I discovered Hardin & York while working for the Dutch Background Magazine. We received a lot of stuff from the UK label Angel Air, including Eddie Hardin & York Live In The 70s, highly recommended to Hammond organ aficionados. And Hansson & Karlsson I discovered while working for the Dutch iO Pages progrock magazine when we received the eponymous CD compilation so it pays off to work for progrock magazines, it's incredible how many unknown but great stuff you receive  | hmm. Now that's just the sort of gig I need...I guess it's time to start bangin' out reviews; only 1046 to catch the flying Dutchman himself .....2045 for the mighty Sean Trane (now how does he do that?). Meanwhile, I'll continue the search for these hidden gems and hopefully shed some much deserved light on 'em...
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 01:58
Dick Heath wrote:
Strikes me if we are thinking Hammond, bluesy and heavy, why not Niacin without forgetting Jonas Helborg Group's e album predates Niacin. Niacin's John Novello tell me that he was influenced by Brian Auger, Keith Emerson, etc. so Oblivion Express, Trinity, Auger/Driscoll get added to the list - check out Brian Auger's own website for a host of tasty recordings:
http://brianauger.com/discography/discography.html - http://brianauger.com/discography/discography.html | You know what, I have the darndest time getting into 'newer' fusion and jazz(as in Niacin and Helborg), it just doesn't have the edge like the older classics. Niacin fits right in with the hammond-drenched theme here....but it's just so clean, excellent musicians though.
It'd be great if you gentlemen could suggest where to start with Brian Auger...he's been around forever and there's a lot to dig into. Seems I really liked the stuff he did with Julie Driscoll (I believe there was a single...something like Wheel's on Fire...?). Anyway I hear Auger was/is one of the masters of hammond organ so I'll jump right on board the Oblivion Express...
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