Irritating lyrics in prog.
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Topic: Irritating lyrics in prog.
Posted By: emdiar
Subject: Irritating lyrics in prog.
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 16:25
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 16:39
emdiar wrote:
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber. |
Damn ye, Em!  I love that catchy song -- now I'll never be able to listen to it the same way again! 
 Good call!
Okay, how about this? In Jethro Tull's "Heavy Horses," Anderson sings "last of the line, at another's day's toil." ANOTHER'S day's? WTF? You mean "another day's toil." Don't know if ol' Ian wrote it that way, but our normally clever wordsmith messed up there, and didn't catch it later.
There -- it'll never sound as good again!  What a great thread for smarmy, know-it-all wet blankets! 
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 16:42
"We're going to party likes it's 1997, we're going to party like it's 1997..."
What the...?!
The only bad part Grand Opening.
(It's not a fault or error of any kind, like the two above, but it annoys me.)
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 06:09
Some of the one's in the song Fear of a Blank Planet bother me because of how shallow they are.
"X Box is a god to me"
"They sound like pearl Jam"
I mean, come one, you could have done better Wilson.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 06:17
"mum tiddley washing...dad diddley office..."
non- prog people crease up in laughter if they hear this, and i crease up in embarrassment  a blot on a masterpiece.
sorry PG.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 06:24
mystic fred wrote:
"mum tiddley washing...dad diddley office..."
non- prog people crease up in laughter if they hear this, and i crease up in embarrassment  a blot on a masterpiece.
sorry PG.
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Mom-tilly washing, Mom-tilly washing.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 07:45
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly. The seventh walks in front..." In fact, there are seven saintly shrouded men, not six, and it's not the seventh one who walks in front but the first one.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 07:52
Vompatti wrote:
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly. The seventh walks in front..." In fact, there are seven saintly shrouded men, not six, and it's not the seventh one who walks in front but the first one.
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I believe what he meant was:
There was a group of six people ->
A seventh joins them and then moves in front
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 08:03
Shakespeare wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly. The seventh walks in front..." In fact, there are seven saintly shrouded men, not six, and it's not the seventh one who walks in front but the first one.
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I believe what he meant was:
There was a group of six people ->
A seventh joins them and then moves in front
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In that case it's fine, but do you really think the seventh just comes out of nowhere and happens to be dressed just like the other six (as he is in the album cover)?
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 08:19
Yes!
(or if not, the gabe could have meant "I see six people standing in a line, and a seventh standing ahead." Y'know?)
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 10:56
What? No mention of the classic 'Get me a ladder' clanger from ELP's 'Still You Turn Me On'??
I have to say, there are actually very few Genesis lyrics I have problems with in their 1970-80 period. Outside of that, there are a handful of offenders; 'Fireside Song' has a nice melody and a soulful vocal from Gabriel, but oh, those lyrics! 'Once upon a time there was confusion, disappointment, fear and disillusion'...'sixth form poetry' comes to mind! Having said that, they were pretty much sixth formers at the time. There's no excusing or 'Who Dunnit', 'Illegal Alien' or 'Way Of The World' though, IMHO.
'Teakbois' from the ABWH album I find borderline unlistenable due to the dreadfully silly (even by Jon Anderson's standards!) 'Bobby Dread and the cool running' refrain that runs throughout.
And I can't forget the cringeworthy 'poetry' that The Moody Blues loved to put on their albums, either...
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 13:01
Peter wrote:
emdiar wrote:
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber. |
Damn ye, Em!  I love that catchy song -- now I'll never be able to listen to it the same way again! 
 Good call!
Okay, how about this? In Jethro Tull's "Heavy Horses," Anderson sings "last of the line, at another's day's toil." ANOTHER'S day's? WTF? You mean "another day's toil." Don't know if ol' Ian wrote it that way, but our normally clever wordsmith messed up there, and didn't catch it later.
There -- it'll never sound as good again!  What a great thread for smarmy, know-it-all wet blankets! 
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Good one Peter, however, could it not be argued that "another's day's toil" means "not my day's toil, but someone else's"? Even so, I concede that it's linguistically clumsy to use two possessive nouns together. Is "another's" a valid possessive noun? Not according to the spell check on my laptop. I'd have to type "an other's".
I'm sure you can tell this "smarmy know-it-all" (scarily like something Mrs em would call me  ) if it's just plain wrong. What do I know? I forgot the question mark in my opening question and deliberated a little too long on whether or not to use a comma before the clause; "and I quote". Next thing you know, I'll start to accidentally split infinitives. 
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 13:10
I've been conceiving you for too long.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 13:40
Dalezilla wrote:
I've been conceiving you for too long.  |
To be fair I think one that needs a seperate thread entitled Lost in translation...
No one has mentioned yet such reasons to call the obvious miscreant as frictions spans the spirits wrath ascending to be butcher of the English language far be it for me to speek his name so I'll leave that for others, through the distance of man as they regard the summit.
(and I don't mean Yoda),
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 14:05
"If I were the moon, I'd be cool." - from "If" by Pink Floyd
As much as I love Roger Waters as a songwriter, this rather childishly simplistic lyric perplexed me somewhat.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 14:21
- Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha....Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha...Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha (Yes - Relayer)
- I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO (Yes - Tormato - Arriving UFO)
- "Was that something beautiful, amazing, wonderful, extraordinary
beautiful?" "Oh! It was OK!! But there were no clowns, no tigers, lions or bears, cand-floss, toffee apples, no clowns." )Yes - Tormato - Circus of Heaven)
- And the Lamb...Lamb, Lamb, Lamb (Phil Collins butchering The Lamb Lies Down obn Broadway)
- Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face. Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race, )Yes, Yes Album - Starship Trooper)
It's obvious I totally dislike Yes lyrics.
Iván
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Posted By: P.H.P.
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 14:26
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
- Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha....Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha...Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha (Yes - Relayer)
- I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO (Yes - Tormato - Arriving UFO)
- "Was that something beautiful, amazing, wonderful, extraordinary
beautiful?" "Oh! It was OK!! But there were no clowns, no tigers, lions or bears, cand-floss, toffee apples, no clowns." )Yes - Tormato - Circus of Heaven)
- And the Lamb...Lamb, Lamb, Lamb (Phil Collins butchering The Lamb Lies Down obn Broadway)
- Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face. Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race, )Yes, Yes Album - Starship Trooper)
It's obvious I totally dislike Yes lyrics.
Iván
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 14:31
P.H.P. wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
- Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha....Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha...Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha (Yes - Relayer)
- I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO (Yes - Tormato - Arriving UFO)
- "Was that something beautiful, amazing, wonderful, extraordinary
beautiful?" "Oh! It was OK!! But there were no clowns, no tigers, lions or bears, cand-floss, toffee apples, no clowns." )Yes - Tormato - Circus of Heaven)
- And the Lamb...Lamb, Lamb, Lamb (Phil Collins butchering The Lamb Lies Down obn Broadway)
- Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face. Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race, )Yes, Yes Album - Starship Trooper)
It's obvious I totally dislike Yes lyrics.
Iván
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 15:26
Camel - Freefall ("I'm in a freefall like a snowfake falling down down down down down") self-explanitory
Beggars Opera - Silver Peacock: the title speaks for itself, complete with procession and all
ELP - KE9: Third Impression...the whole concept is cringeworthy, but the computer section (I AM YOURSELF) is especially hard for me to take
The Moody Blues - Nice to be Here. Now I love the Moodies, but they were capable of some pretty nasty stuff now and then...just read the lyrics to this one, and of course the "poetry" that Salmacis mentioned.
Renaissance - Let it Grow:
"It's got to be slow Taking love the only way It's got to just flow Making love and taking time to let it grow...
Loving you the love you give me Living loving with the things we have to share"
not so bad but a little cheesy, sort of ruins and otherwise good love song.
Yes - Parallels (something about building a tower....an ever-opening flower....you know you have the power.) EWWWW  another good song (dig that church organ) but this time those lyrics are just bloody awful...actually I usually really like Jon's lyrics unlike most people, but he could creep into cheesy/generic territory at times (now, mind you, it's nothing like some 90's bands...ahem...Pendragon....Flower Kings, yuck).
Spock's Beard - I don't really like any of Neal Morse's lyrics, but Mouth of Madness is one that I can recall as being pretty rough (hey there would you like to ride on the best event since suicide, he people come and board the train come anethetize you frazzled brain)
I'll stop there but I'm sure I could come up with plenty more, epecially in 'neo-prog' territory....Magic Pie being the first to come to mind...
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Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 16:09
Coheed and Cambria has the most annoying lyrics I've ever encountered in prog/prog-related music.
"Hang on to the glory at my right hand
Here laid to rest is our love ever longed
With truth on the shores of compassion
You seem to take premise to all of these songs
You stormed off to scar the armada
Like Jesus played letter,
I'll drill through your hands
The stone for the curse you have blamed me
With love and devotion, I'll die as you sleep
But if you could just write me out
To neverless wonder... happy will I become
Be true that this is no option,
So with sin I condemn you
Demon play, demon out!" -Welcome Home, from Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV: Volume I: Fear Through The Eyes of Madness
I believe the phrase is "take precedence".
And the rest of the stuff is like the poetry of a dorky high school student.
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:14
"Well I argued with the judge but the b*****d wouldn't budge 'cause they caught me lickin' fudge and they never told me once You were a minor"
-live versions of "Easy Money" by King Crimson
I don't think any of us wanna know how those lyrics came to be
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Posted By: Novalis
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:23
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:23
It's not lyrics, per se, but when Jon does an intro on the "HOUSE OF YES" live album I honestly cannot continue. I've yet to listen passed the second song.
"This is for my wife..."
and
"So wonderful, so wonderful..."
Euuuuuuughghghgh.....
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:32
Shakespeare wrote:
It's not lyrics, per se, but when Jon does an intro on the "HOUSE OF YES" live album I honestly cannot continue. I've yet to listen passed the second song.
"This is for my wife..."
and
"So wonderful, so wonderful..."
Euuuuuuughghghgh.....
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"Yes is at the house of blues!"
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:40
Again, Euuuuuuughghghgh.....
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 17:50
emdiar wrote:
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber. |
Technically, it's not lazy, because it's not as economical as just saying "Four a.m.", and so it requires more effort. :-P
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 18:28
Harry Hood wrote:
"Well I argued with the judge but the b*****d wouldn't budge 'cause they caught me lickin' fudge and they never told me once You were a minor"
-live versions of "Easy Money" by King Crimson
I don't think any of us wanna know how those lyrics came to be
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A discussion of groupies with Wakeman per haps ?
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 18:41
Harry Hood wrote:
"Well I argued with the judge but the b*****d wouldn't budge 'cause they caught me lickin' fudge and they never told me once You were a minor"
-live versions of "Easy Money" by King Crimson
I don't think any of us wanna know how those lyrics came to be
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King Crimson - Ladies of the Road
Sinfield trades in his usual mysticism and tries his hand at cockrock....neither "badass" or "clever" and to top it off, the music rips off the Beatles big time.
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Posted By: ShipOfFools
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 19:33
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the classic example I can think of is:
A speck of lint on the penis of an alien.
Cringeworthy! 
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 19:37
Harry Hood wrote:
"Well I argued with the judge but the b*****d wouldn't budge 'cause they caught me lickin' fudge and they never told me once You were a minor"
-live versions of "Easy Money" by King Crimson
I don't think any of us wanna know how those lyrics came to be
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 19:38
"He who dies with the MOST TOYS is STILL DEAD is STILL DEAD"
 
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Posted By: ShipOfFools
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 19:44
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 02:38
Vompatti wrote:
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly. The seventh walks in front..." In fact, there are seven saintly shrouded men, not six, and it's not the seventh one who walks in front but the first one.
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Maybe the seventh is walking quickly?
It's a bit less convoluted than "Seven saintly shrouded men move across the lawn, six of them slowly." 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 03:03
Harry Hood wrote:
"Well I argued with the judge but the b*****d wouldn't budge 'cause they caught me lickin' fudge and they never told me once You were a minor"
-live versions of "Easy Money" by King Crimson
I don't think any of us wanna know how those lyrics came to be
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Hey! I resemble that remark! I like Wetton "dicking around" with the lyrics. Every band needs a questionable member.
I, by the way, agree with Ivan a page back; all those purple wolfhounds and liver witches can get kinda silly from time to time.
But in closing, let me say, why do so many dislike the "chocolate surprise" lyrics in "Cinema Show?" I mean, it's hardly Dylan, but it ain't evil or nothin'. Besides, that song was no great shake anyway...
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 07:55
Shakespeare wrote:
It's not lyrics, per se, but when Jon does an intro on the "HOUSE OF YES" live album I honestly cannot continue. I've yet to listen passed the second song.
"This is for my wife..."
and
"So wonderful, so wonderful..."
Euuuuuuughghghgh.....
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Hahaha..  Well Jon isent exactly known for being the coolest guy in prog. 
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 08:35
From Genesis' Aisle of Plenty on Saving England..."Tess Co-operates..."
I hardly think they need your free advertising Pete!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:00
Gog/Magog wrote:
From Genesis' Aisle of Plenty on Saving England..."Tess Co-operates..."
I hardly think they need your free advertising Pete! |
neither did Safeway nor Fine Fare at the time. 
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:36
mystic fred wrote:
"mum tiddley washing...dad diddley office..."
non- prog people crease up in laughter if they hear this, and i crease up in embarrassment  a blot on a masterpiece.
sorry PG.
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Oh, i love that passage 
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:42
Time Signature wrote:
emdiar wrote:
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber. |
Technically, it's not lazy, because it's not as economical as just saying "Four a.m.", and so it requires more effort. :-P |
 You're either trying to be clever, or simply misunderstand. I wasn't referring to the effort required to sing it, or the amount of letters he had to write. It is lazy, because he couldn't be bothered to write a better line that fits. It's like when someone rhymes "....baby," with "don't mean maybe" or "driving me crazy,". I can't believe you actually thought I meant it was lazy because it had more than the necessary amount of words to convey the time in question  .
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:55
The Whistler wrote:
But in closing, let me say, why do so many dislike the "chocolate surprise" lyrics in "Cinema Show?" I mean, it's hardly Dylan, but it ain't evil or nothin'. Besides, that song was no great shake anyway... |
Very clever!
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:58
darqdean wrote:
Gog/Magog wrote:
From Genesis' Aisle of Plenty on Saving England..."Tess Co-operates..."
I hardly think they need your free advertising Pete! |
neither did Safeway nor Fine Fare at the time.  |
Ah yes forgot those!
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 20:29
Box of Crayons... forgot the song's name, but it was actually a poem. A pretty cool one except this line. "An empty glass of water'
no...it may have had water in it at one time, but now it is just "an empty glass."
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Posted By: MonkeyphoneAlex
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:21
I hate the part in "Pictures of a City" when it's like, "Spice, Ice, Dance, Chance". It just bugs me the way the line is delivered. By the way, wtf is that song supposed to be about anyway. Some of the lines seem to be talking about the superhero, Iron Man, but I can't tell for sure.
Concrete cold face cased in steel Stark sharp glass-eyed crack and peel Bright light scream beam brake and squeal Red white green white neon wheel.
Dream flesh love chase perfumed skin Greased hand teeth hide tinseled sin Spice ice dance chance sickly grin Pasteboard time slot sweat and spin.
Blind stick blind drunk cannot see Mouth dry tongue tied cannot speak Concrete dream flesh broken shell Lost soul lost trace lost in hell.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:35
Greg W wrote:
Box of Crayons... forgot the song's name, but it was actually a poem. A pretty cool one except this line. "An empty glass of water'
no...it may have had water in it at one time, but now it is just "an empty glass." |
Sounds like the author was trying to be contradictory. Artistically. for example:
The bald man went to get a haircut.
That sort of thing.
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:41
DONT HAAAAATE ME
I'M NOT SPEEEECIAL LIKE YOU
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:48
This is a hate song When you hear this I hope you want to sue
...Well, that's nice and...er....
I'm not going to lie, it's not that nice.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:49
From what I know, "knowledge" does not have a plural form. That's why it bugs me everytime I hear Lake screaming "Knowledges!...." on Epitaph.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 01:06
MonkeyphoneAlex wrote:
I hate the part in "Pictures of a City" when it's like, "Spice, Ice, Dance, Chance". It just bugs me the way the line is delivered. By the way, wtf is that song supposed to be about anyway. Some of the lines seem to be talking about the superhero, Iron Man, but I can't tell for sure.Concrete cold face cased in steelStark sharp glass-eyed crack and peelBright light scream beam brake and squealRed white green white neon wheel.Dream flesh love chase perfumed skinGreased hand teeth hide tinseled sinSpice ice dance chance sickly grinPasteboard time slot sweat and spin.Blind stick blind drunk cannot seeMouth dry tongue tied cannot speakConcrete dream flesh broken shellLost soul lost trace lost in hell.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 01:09
One of my favorite annoying lyrics is in Take a Pebble when Lake imagines how good looking he must have been to the woman rather than singing of his attraction to her ... "My face fell so gently into your eyes."
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 01:14
A favorite annoying stage patter comes on a live Doors album when Jim finishes one of his epic Fruedian/Oedipal 20 minute rock operas in which everyone dies, while the crowd is cheering he says ... " Yeah ... really neat ... really neat."
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 01:26
I wish you all knew some spanish to share the vomiting reaction that "Frontera" produce. Same with those Mars volta spanish lyrics. ¡They are supposed to be cuban!...
mm... and that Borneman person shouting numbers in track 4 of "Ocean".. ¿is he counting the money or what?...
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 09:33
andu wrote:
From what I know, "knowledge" does not have a plural form. That's why it bugs me everytime I hear Lake screaming "Knowledges!...." on Epitaph. | I could be wrong, but I think it's "Knowledge IS a deadly friend if noone sets the rules."
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 09:41
^You're right, thanks! This thread now reliefs me from one lyrical trouble...
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 10:25
^^You've got the right idea though Andu. I didn't really want lyrics that are just bad, corny, pretentious, or whatever. That would have made Jon Anderson too much of an easy target. I was looking for lyrics which are clumsy, redundant, or contain actual mistakes, so you were on the right lines at least.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 14:42
^^ In other words, my first post was completely off-topic
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 13:46
got 2 new ones from the new Flower Kings album :
"I've been circling like an orbit around that cosmic Christmas tree" - The Flower Kings
"Not the end- but I Sense it's near I'm in limbo between Earth and Sky I can see all your houses from here But don't you tell me that this is dying - The Flower Kings
Not prog but:
There were plants and birds and rocks and things - America "Horse with No Name" 
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 15:08
Zitro wrote:
There were plants and birds and rocks and things - America "Horse with No Name" 
| that one kills me; wouldn't be so bad if it was supposed to be funny be he sings it with such....conviction; someone was running behind their deadline on those lyrics
I hate to say it but many times when a band tries to sing in English when it's not their native language they usually end up tripping over the grammar at some point. Just listen to the first PFM Live album....they didn't even know English yet - sang it phonetically, and it shows...the version of Just Look Away can't come close to Dolcissima Maria (here's the opening line: "Scraping his bow, the old violinist is play out of tune...."). Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I know it's very hard to learn a new language after teenage years, so no offense.
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 15:45
You need love, I need love, here it comes , the taste of my love.
I'm gonna love you like nobody ever loved you
climb on my rocket and we'll fly.
Over the moon past the sun till we find
the gates of heaven open wide for lovers
I'm gonna love you like nobody ever loved you
climb on my rocket and we'll fly.
ELP's Love Beach.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 16:37
"There's no time for contrition, the time for that's long passed."
Mildly redundant, just slightly annoying.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 17:07
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
- Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha....Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha...Cha -Cha -Cha Cha -Cha (Yes - Relayer)
- I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO (Yes - Tormato - Arriving UFO)
- "Was that something beautiful, amazing, wonderful, extraordinary
beautiful?" "Oh! It was OK!! But there were no clowns, no tigers, lions or bears, cand-floss, toffee apples, no clowns." )Yes - Tormato - Circus of Heaven)
- And the Lamb...Lamb, Lamb, Lamb (Phil Collins butchering The Lamb Lies Down obn Broadway)
- Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face. Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race, )Yes, Yes Album - Starship Trooper)
It's obvious I totally dislike Yes lyrics.
Iván
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I totally agree on nr. 1, 2 and 4, but I do like nr. 3, and I love nr. 5, to be fairly honest.
Another thing: I don't like the opening lyrics of Alquin's New Guinea Sunrise:
"Wake me up, treat me cool,
you treat me like a fool.
Turn my head, slow me down,
you turn me round and round"
Those are some of the most un-proggish lyrics I ever heard in prog. Too bad, because the music and the vocals are very good.
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 17:25
Metallica's Welcome Home(Sanitarium)(You may not see Metallica as prog, but I'd say this is one of their examples that definitely are)
"They see it right, they see it well, but they think they saves us from our hell"

------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes
Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie
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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 17:34
Floydian42 wrote:
Some of the one's in the song Fear of a Blank Planet bother me because of how shallow they are.
"X Box is a good to me"
"They sound like pearl Jam"
I mean, come one, you could have done better Wilson.
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I do believe it's "XBox is a God to me"
And I think Wilson intended for that to come across, for the intent of the albums questioning modern childrens attitudes and such.
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!
Al di Meola.
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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 18:18
Drakk wrote:
Floydian42 wrote:
Some of the one's in the song Fear of a Blank Planet bother me because of how shallow they are.
"X Box is a good to me"
"They sound like pearl Jam"
I mean, come one, you could have done better Wilson.
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I do believe it's "XBox is a God to me"
And I think Wilson intended for that to come across, for the intent of the albums questioning modern childrens attitudes and such. |
Sorry, that was a typo, will fix.
And no, I get what he was trying to say. But it just doesn't sound good to me, It's too... direct.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: October 03 2007 at 08:13
emdiar wrote:
Time Signature wrote:
emdiar wrote:
What lyric, or part there of, makes your toes curl most. I'm going to kick off with one line from Mike Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow", and I quote; "Four a.m. in the morning....".
What? As opposed to four a.m. in the afternoon?
Lazy and as redundant as Phil Collins' barber. |
Technically, it's not lazy, because it's not as economical as just saying "Four a.m.", and so it requires more effort. :-P |
 You're either trying to be clever, or simply misunderstand. I wasn't referring to the effort required to sing it, or the amount of letters he had to write. It is lazy, because he couldn't be bothered to write a better line that fits. It's like when someone rhymes "....baby," with "don't mean maybe" or "driving me crazy,". I can't believe you actually thought I meant it was lazy because it had more than the necessary amount of words to convey the time in question  . |
That's because you don't know the principle of economy of expression; if you did you'd have no problems understanding my joke there.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: October 03 2007 at 08:13
magnus wrote:
Metallica's Welcome Home(Sanitarium)(You may not see Metallica as prog, but I'd say this is one of their examples that definitely are)
"They see it right, they see it well, but they think they saves us from our hell"

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Probably written by Lars Ulrich :-P
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 06 2007 at 06:06
I bet you all admire THIS incomparable masterpiece - still, the lyrics invariably give me the runs:
"Veiling the nightshade bride stalks a flower revealed
Nearing the hour make haste to their threshold concealed
Lost in thought in search of vision
As the moon eclipsed the sun
Casting the same steps glimpsing his own fate to come
Melt in the dream void from which he never can run
Lost in thought in search of vision
As the moon eclipsed the sun"
More pseudo-poetic than this it's impossible to get.
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Posted By: Berenger
Date Posted: October 06 2007 at 11:39
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 20:28
Any of the English PFM lyrics. Especially when Peter Sinfield is involved. Its not just the translation of the words meanings, but they way they are sung makes them sound very contrived.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 20:40
Tapfret wrote:
Any of the English PFM lyrics. Especially when Peter Sinfield is involved. Its not just the translation of the words meanings, but they way they are sung makes them sound very contrived. |
AFAIK Sinfield completely re-wrote the lyrics, and unfortunately they were then sung phonetically, so the singer didn't know what he was singing about and couldn't give the correct stressing and emotional emphasis.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 01:00
darqdean wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Any of the English PFM lyrics. Especially when Peter Sinfield is involved. Its not just the translation of the words meanings, but they way they are sung makes them sound very contrived. |
AFAIK Sinfield completely re-wrote the lyrics, and unfortunately they were then sung phonetically, so the singer didn't know what he was singing about and couldn't give the correct stressing and emotional emphasis. |
Although admittedly, it does add a bit to the intended comic relief of "Is my face on straight?". Not a great song any way you look at it and it shows up in the middle of an otherwise outstanding album. Might as well have a larf.
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:23
my favoorite is the light [part VI ;senor velasco's mystic voodoo love dance]
''iam the senor velasco i drink my milk with Tabasco''
i don't know what to do 'if i laugh or if i cry 
------------- Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:25
Carmen's "Joy." If memory serves:
"Joy, you give a little to the kids next door, because without the kids next door, there's no laughter after the pain, no sunshine after the rain!"
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Posted By: Novalis
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:27
Floydian42 wrote:
Drakk wrote:
Floydian42 wrote:
Some of the one's in the song Fear of a Blank Planet bother me because of how shallow they are.
"X Box is a good to me"
"They sound like pearl Jam"
I mean, come one, you could have done better Wilson.
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I do believe it's "XBox is a God to me"
And I think Wilson intended for that to come across, for the intent of the albums questioning modern childrens attitudes and such. |
Sorry, that was a typo, will fix.
And no, I get what he was trying to say. But it just doesn't sound good to me, It's too... direct.
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Yea, I gotta admit the first time I heard it I was a little put out by how forward it is, not to mention it seemed a little childish, but in the context of the concept it makes sense.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:29
Solstice Bells
*puts on sunglasses and shrinks into crowd*
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:34
Atavachron wrote:
Solstice Bells
*puts on sunglasses and shrinks into crowd*
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Oh, okay, someone DIES tonight...
Actually, I should mention Ian. Got Roots to Branches recently, and the lyrics to "Beside Myself" just rub me wrong somehow.
"Big sister, can you hear him, can you hear him? ... I'll wish you up a silver train, to carry you to school, bring you home again."
But "Solstice" ROCKS, okay man? Nothing wrong 'bout seven druids dancing in time.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:37
yeah it does rock actually, it's just the first thing that popped into my head as vaguely annoying...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:39
The Whistler wrote:
"Big sister, can you hear him, can you hear him? ... I'll wish you up a silver train, to carry you to school, bring you home again."
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what in the hell does that mean?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 04:41
Atavachron wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
"Big sister, can you hear him, can you hear him? ... I'll wish you up a silver train, to carry you to school, bring you home again."
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what in the hell does that mean?
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I'm...still not exactly sure. Maybe something about taking care of your family? There were some factory issue "dirty city" images in there as well.
It didn't help that the song was dull and overlong, of course.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 08:45
It's rather a misunderstood one:
I heard the following line in Cinema Show:
TESCO operates...
What? 
I looked at the boolet:Tess cooperates, OK that's better...
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: October 11 2007 at 02:58
I'd have to admit that I've never heard lyrics to a song quite as annoying as those to Yes's Circus of Heaven.
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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 07:18
For me, it's usually the lyrics in prog that let me down. There are good lyrics but there seem to be a lot of stinkers. One that comes to mind is "Nobody Loves You Like I Do", that line "They will take away your t-shirt." I see what they meant but that's just a bit corny for me.
I agree that Oldfield's "Moonlight Shadow" was just a bit of laziness, I mean they could at least have made it "Four o'clock in the morning..." Not much better but at least it removes the redundancy.
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the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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Posted By: Kim Ankara
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 08:18
jimmy_row wrote:
Yes - Parallels (something about building a tower....an ever-opening flower....you know you have the power.) EWWWW  another good song (dig that church organ) but this time those lyrics are just bloody awful... actually I usually really like Jon's lyrics unlike most people, but he could creep into cheesy/generic territory at times (now, mind you, it's nothing like some 90's bands...ahem...Pendragon....Flower Kings, yuck).
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Parallels' lyrics were written by Chris Squire, not Jon. 
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"I'm a dinosaur" - Adrian Belew
"I am a camera" - Trevor Horn
"I am yourself" - Keith Emerson
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:40
Kim Ankara wrote:
Parallels' lyrics were written by Chris Squire, not Jon. |
True, and rarely has a prog musician sounded more self-satisfied. Or what do you make of: "I've been all around the world / and seen so many faces / young and old, a story told / filling in my spaces"?
The whole wide world's just there to fill in Mr. Squire's spaces! As he sang elsewhere: "All you've got to do is hold out your hand / for the treasures of the Universe are lying at your feet".
All this roughly at the time postwar Britain suffered record unemployment and the Sex Pistols were screaming about "NO FUTURE". All it takes is cheek!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 14:56
Kim Ankara wrote:
jimmy_row wrote:
Yes - Parallels (something about building a tower....an ever-opening flower....you know you have the power.) EWWWW  another good song (dig that church organ) but this time those lyrics are just bloody awful... actually I usually really like Jon's lyrics unlike most people, but he could creep into cheesy/generic territory at times (now, mind you, it's nothing like some 90's bands...ahem...Pendragon....Flower Kings, yuck).
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Parallels' lyrics were written by Chris Squire, not Jon. 
| well that explains why it didn't seem quite right
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 14:58
fuxi wrote:
Kim Ankara wrote:
Parallels' lyrics were written by Chris Squire, not Jon. |
True, and rarely has a prog musician sounded more self-satisfied. Or what do you make of: "I've been all around the world / and seen so many faces / young and old, a story told / filling in my spaces"? The whole wide world's just there to fill in Mr. Squire's spaces! As he sang elsewhere: "All you've got to do is hold out your hand / for the treasures of the Universe are lying at your feet". All this roughly at the time postwar Britain suffered record unemployment and the Sex Pistols were screaming about "NO FUTURE". All it takes is cheek! | maybe he was talking about how much he loves Myspace (1977? so what, maybe he could see the future from his "shining tower")
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Posted By: Hat of Truth
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 04:45
Dreamer by Supertramp. "Well can you put your hands in your head, oh no!" No I can't put my hands in my head. That would hurt.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 05:02
was it you or was it me? or was it he or she? was it a or was it b? or was it x or z?
o-weena o-weena o-weena



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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 17:32
Norbert wrote:
It's rather a misunderstood one:
I heard the following line in Cinema Show:
TESCO operates...
What? 
I looked at the boolet:Tess cooperates, OK that's better... |
Is this a wind up?
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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 19:59
All of the lyrics on DT's Systematic Chaos. They really ruined the album for me
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 00:29
Snipergoat wrote:
All of the lyrics on DT's Systematic Chaos. They really ruined the album for me
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What are you talking about? The lyrics on that album were brilliant!
"Traveling through both space and time outta body outta mind"
Alright, maybe not. Someone should inform Mike Portnoy that everybody is traveling through both space and time. It doesn't make him special.
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Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 07:01
I hate the line on Close to the Edge, "Rearrange his liver to the solid mantle grace."
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I like cheese and I like metal! --Mikael Åkerfeldt
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Posted By: Novalis
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 07:32
Harry Hood wrote:
Snipergoat wrote:
All of the lyrics on DT's Systematic Chaos. They really ruined the album for me |
What are you talking about? The lyrics on that album were brilliant!
"Traveling through both space and time outta body outta mind"
Alright, maybe not. Someone should inform Mike Portnoy that everybody is traveling through both space and time. It doesn't make him special.
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Reminds me of:
"I am a traveller of both time and space.."
Yes Plant, we all are. 
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Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 16:35
I hate all of the lyrics to The Great Deceiver, specially this part:
Health-food fa**** with a bartered bride
Likes to comb his hair with a dipper ride
Once had a friend with a cloven foot
Once he called the tune in a chequered quit
 It seems Crimson's lyrics are taking quite a beat.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 16:41
I love the lyrics on Systematic Chaos stuff like The Dark Eternal Night shows they're not being so dire as they were in the past (like Octavarium) would I have preferred in depth lyrics? I dont know and don't care
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 21:56
Where is your face In a safe of dead tongues I can see your reflection In your totem first born I suspect you've been carrying a pack of wolves I regret not killing you when I had the chance

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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 15:38
Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 18:06
Oh Jesus, Peter Gabriel, you are my hero, but please, PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO MAKE UP YOUR OWN WORDS! Here are a few crackers:
The Colony of Slippermen- "shoobeedoob"
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight- "unifaun"
The Colony of Slippemen- "slubberdegullian" (this one might be a real word actually)
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 18:13
Something by Opeth, like I HEAR THEM DEVOURIIIING... BEST MADE TACOS OF THE EARTH!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 18:14
^ hehehe, if making up words was grifmelsmeter enough for Shakespeare then it's grifmelsmeter enough for Gabriel
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 18:16
electricsilence wrote:
I hate all of the lyrics to The Great Deceiver, specially this part:
Health-food fa**** with a bartered bride
Likes to comb his hair with a dipper ride
Once had a friend with a cloven foot
Once he called the tune in a chequered quit
 It seems Crimson's lyrics are taking quite a beat.
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Great Deciever was written by Fripp, and I believe it is the only song he wrote lyrics to. It's pretty bad. I dig the lyrics by Sinfield, Palmer-James, and Belew though.
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