Concept albuns
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Topic: Concept albuns
Posted By: Calvo
Subject: Concept albuns
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:06
I just can't decide between these two great albuns...
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Posted By: ayreon.esposito
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:09
| we can't decid with only two cocept album!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:15
| Excellent albums, DT wins by a small margin. |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:20
DT, I haven't heard Queenschrye yet, but they seem uber lame to me.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:42
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two of my favorite albums, cant decide ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 10:53
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I'll take Queensryche. I can't stand James LaBrie's voice on the high end, too 80's hair metal for me. If my cats made noises like him, I'd take 'em to see Mr. Hammerhead. |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 11:49
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Strange Poll - What about all the other concept albums - Best Obviously Tales from Topographic Oceans, or maybe the Lamb.... ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 11:56
Two of the worst bands I know and two of the worst albums,hmm,which to choose? ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:02
| Hmm... You don't think this poll might be a little biased, do you? |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:06
The thought of listening to Queensryche makes my toes curl.  I'd rather lick the floor of an abattoir. ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:09
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I think you'll find 'Close to the edge possibly one of the greatest concept albums of all time..
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:31
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Close to the Edge isn't a concept album - the tracks aren't linked ??? - They dont tell a story...etc !!! Thus "The Lamb" or "Tales" or "Subterranea" ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:36
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Swinton MCR wrote:
Close to the Edge isn't a concept album - the tracks aren't linked ??? - They dont tell a story...etc !!! Thus "The Lamb" or "Tales" or "Subterranea"
Sorry Mr argue the toss Swinton...But you'll find 'Close' is classed as a concept album no matter what you think & i'll stick my neck out & say Yes were the band that defined the meaning of concept album.
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:38
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You wouldn't care to enlighten us as to what the concept is would you?
------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:46
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Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for prog. The Who - Tommy for rock. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:58
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Metropoliswrote: You wouldn't care to enlighten us as to what the concept is would you? Both 'Close to the edge' & 'Tales from topographic oceans' are linked to each other & are both Concept albums. Best explination your gonna get cos you'll get no sence from the musicians You asked for this so get ready.
http://www.yhwh.com/ctte.htm - http://www.yhwh.com/ctte.htm
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:17
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You're wrong... (AS USUAL) A Concept album (in this context) is a CD/Album where all the tracks are telling a story... Thus Scenes...... In this vein and in this context (You are usually slow to pick up "Context")..... The Lamb...... Tales from...... Subterranea - AND DON'T ARGUE JUST FOR THE FECKING REASON THAT IT WAS LINDA WHO MADE TH INITIAL - OUT OF CONTEXT GAFFE.................. ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:19
"Subterranea" above and beyond any other. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:44
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2112 is a great one. how about The Wall? Marbles is an album I'd consider a concept album that I enjoy ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:49
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"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" is the mother of all concept albums. I passed on voting in the poll 
------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: arkitek
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:49
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Swinton MCR A Concept album (in this context) is a CD/Album where all the tracks are telling a story... after hearing this i know wot it is so i voted DT |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 14:22
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In all fairness to Queensryche, "Operation Mindcrime" also tells a story,it's definitely a concept album,albeit a bloody awful one. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:01
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"Operation: Mindcrime" for me, please - as "Scenes from a Memory" is the biggest heap of spinach Dream Theater have ever recorded. It's just that: an overrated, pretentious, derivative piece of stagnation featuring bits of old DT, Savatage, U2, Kansas, Frank Zappa, Rush, Roger Waters, annoying lyrics and a schmaltzy MOR singer. Thank God they found their energy again and unleashed that fine "Train of Thought" album (derivative as well but ... meaty!).
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:59
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There's such a large catalogue of excellent conceptual albums that I wouldn't vote for any of the two mentioned.
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:36
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Among those two I've voted for Scenes - really great album! (The only great album by DT though... IMO). Operation is also delicious ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:38
What about Jesus Christ Superstar, Tommy and A Passion Play? ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
ivan_2068 wrote:Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:02
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What a fantastic list! The Lamb is certainly the greatest for me.
I can't really comment on the 2 albums in the poll because I'm not a fan of either
The whole thing about CTTE being a concept album confused me: mind you, Jon Anderson's lyrics are so esoteric it can mean anything you want it to ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:25
According to Fish,"Clutching At Straws" is not a concept album. Some of the songs are thematically linked with a thread of alcohol abuse but it's still not a concept album. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 06:15
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2112 isn't a concept album. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 11:21
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Im sure CTTE is not a concept album for one simple reason, Close to the Edge, And You and I and Siberian Khatru are three songe with no relation in the lyrics, a concept album is like a book and the songs are like chapters (Except in One song concept albums like Thick as a Brick), this is not the case of CTTE, as simple as that.
Good question Emperor, both are amomg my favorites but there's not room enough to list all the great concept albums, and in the case of Tommy and Jesus Christ Superstar I tried to avoid Rock Operas, because IMO they belong to a slightly different genre that includes mostly dialogues instead of lyrics. Iván -------------
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Posted By: billyshears'67
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:10
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OPERATION: MINDCRIME In my top 5 favorite metal albums of all-time. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From a Memory is great, but at times too derivative. Peace & take care  |
Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:34
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Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, might not be prog but one of the first and the BEST! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:50
...But it isn't a concept album! Everyone involved in its production has attested to that fact. |
Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:13
| Did they? The idea behind it was that a band called "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" would go touring and do a concert. which is what we have on the album. They wanted to have acts, like Mr. Kite and all that, and there is an intro and an outro... I guess in some ways it is and in some ways it isn't, but i like to think it is. |
Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:28
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The Snow Goose! ------------- "I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down." |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:34
I agree with that, but that's more an excuse for a bunch of songs than a true concept album. There's no overarching theme or story to it. For me, one of the greatest concept albums of all time is the criminally underrated "Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters" by Robert Calvert. Not really prog, mayhaps, but a damn fine fusion of great songs, captivating story and hilarious comedy - the result is something funny, tragic and infuriatingly catchy. I just wish someone else could've heard of it. *sighs* |
Posted By: 3rd Impression
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:43
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Does anyone think that such albums as Tangerine dream 'Rubycon' & 'Pheadra' could be though of as concept albums. They kinda tell a story in an Electronic field... More noticeable with Edgar Froese & Klause Shulze early offerings.
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:54
Yes, Iván. The Lamb, The Wall, and Quadrophenia are in a major league compared to the two mentioned. |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:48
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The Lamb for me! Since it's the best album period, it has to be the best concept album.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:57
| "Scens From A Memory" definately. One of my favourite albums of all time! |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 20:31
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The Magician's Birthday by Uriah Heep is a great pseudo-concept album. Ken Hensely said that the whole concept wasn't really finished, but it's still one of my favourites all the same!
Actually, we need some Uriah Heep mp3s in the archives. Maybe I should send some! ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Bartsboys
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 18:59
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I actually Love both concepts and have both DVD's, but Operation Mindcrime is classic!! Labrie simply can't hang with Geoff Tate! For my money though it's Misplaced Childhood!
------------- This World is Totally ...... |
Posted By: integerspin
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 20:09
I never really thought of any Kraut rock stuff like that but Epsilon in Malaysian Pale[Edger Froese] is probably a Concept album? ------------- Confusion will be my epitaph |
Posted By: Zero the hero
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 20:13
The Gong trilogy could be a three part concept i suppose.After all it's a story in three parts! 'Flying teapot'.'Angels egg'.'You'. |
Posted By: integerspin
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 21:07
not a lot to say about that really. Gong prior to Shamal was great.. ------------- Confusion will be my epitaph |
Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 21:22
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"Operation: Mindcrime" is the definitive metal concept album. Tight, focused songs, powerful and precise performances, and a gritty story.
"Scenes" is typical DT rubbish... derivative, schmaltzy, hare-brained, masturbatory, etc. |
Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 01:49
| The Wall, Lamb, and A Passion Play are the concept albums that do it for me. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 07:45
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 08:59
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My favorite concept album is "a meditation mass" by Yatha Sidhra -------------
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