I need more prog bands to my brain!
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Topic: I need more prog bands to my brain!
Posted By: The Quiet One
Subject: I need more prog bands to my brain!
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:03
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Please I need more prog bands, having very few:(without counting related or proto)
Influences not being prog: Pink Floyd Almost all 70's hard rock. King Crimson Few 80's new wave and pop Yes Few grunge and alt. music. Genesis(dislike it) Some funk/disco/R&B ELP Few jazz fusion Flower Kings (getting to know it) Almost all 60's 70's classic Kansas rock... Uriah Heep Gentle Giant Toto (not really prog I think) Supertramp Jethro Tull VDGG (really dislike it) Dire Straits (Lover Over Gold of course, from prog) perhaps some others, but not too much more... As you can see these are my tastes and I have been doing some other threads to know more bands but this is official for any band...of course with consideration of my tastes. No metal please.. ENGLISH LYRICS PLEASE! |
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:08
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Well, I could suggest some easy-to-like prog, but... no ;P if you're looking for interesting bands rather than ones in the same vein as you know, try: Gnidrolog Hatfield and the North Magma otherwise try PFM ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:14
| sorry but what is PFM... |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:16
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Premiata Forneria Marconi, most visible italian symphonic band. =) I don't know if they're RPI or not because they remained outside of a lot of the political stuff... if you don't like italian lyrics then I have no further suggestions ;P ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:17
| ohh but I need english stuff |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:21
Hmmm...well why would you want to limit your tastes to just English bands? Sure most of the popular ones come from England, but there are a ton of great and memorable bands from Germany, France, Italy, USA and so on and so forth. Try not to limit your tastes to geography/languages, you'll never know what you might find appealing from outside those boundaries ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:26
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No metal? No languages?
How about instrumental stuff? ------------- 
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:27
Those are three amazing suggestions. But cacho, having an English only policy is extremely bad! Übertisk. |
laplace wrote:Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 21:55
Crazy World of Arthur Brown and Arthur Brown's Kingdome Come.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:22
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Do a search for erik neuteboom, and look at his threads. Then do a search for Avestin, and look at his threads. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:25
| ^ and then take an aspirin and reexamine your finances |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:26
You have finances left after reading an avestin post??? ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:31
Financing is easy. Just buy food before you go to the music store.  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:31
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"ENGLISH LYRICS PLEASE!" Hey Cacho! Fight the english-only impulse. I understand, I know its hard to get past initially, but you're too young to limit your options like that. There's a whole world of great stuff and if you break down that wall, which you can, you will be so happy you did someday. The first few albums might pain you, but stick with it and force yourself if you have to. I promise you, you can learn to appreciate non-english music, and even love it eventually. Good luck.  ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 22:40
PFM made a few English albums. Try Photos of Ghosts. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: February 26 2008 at 23:06
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Caravan,
Porcupine Tree
Ozric Tentacles - no vox though
etc.
Just read thru the A-Z lists on the front page.Really there are too many to list and everyone has there own favourites.
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Posted By: everyone
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 01:47
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Try these bands: England/Garden Shed Flash...all three albums Empire Starcastle(I do not think they are prog) Captain Beyond(self titled album only) Peter Banks(Solo albums) Todd Rundgren's Utopia(first album) Utopia/Ra(only album) Attila(good psych prog from Billy Joel no less...sounds funny that Joel could be mentioned here) Argent(the last three albums) Focus Allan Holdsworth There are plenty of English language prog bands and most are listed here in PA, but like everyone else has said before me do not limit yourself to the bands that use English only as the lyrics. If you limit yourself to just the English language you will be missing out on being progressive. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 02:10
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Zappa?
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 04:17
Dude. Or, as Finnforest said: Hey Cacho! Fight the english-only impulse. I understand, I know its hard to get past initially, but you're too young to limit your options like that. There's a whole world of great stuff and if you break down that wall, which you can, you will be so happy you did someday. The first few albums might pain you, but stick with it and force yourself if you have to. I promise you, you can learn to appreciate non-english music, and even love it eventually. Good luck. Some recs from me: Amon Duul II Gnidrolog Czes³aw Niemen Raw Material Gargantua |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 04:51
What's the political stuff got to do with it?
 I'm afraid there must have been some misunderstanding as to the nature of RPI... It was first of all a MUSICAL movement - the politics of the period are an important background factor, but most of the bands that belong to it have no political bias whatsoever (Area being one of the most notable exceptions).BTW, PFM recorded at least two albums in English (notably Photos of Ghosts, with lyrics by Pete Sinfield), but 'real' RPI fans usually don't like them.
As for my own suggestions, I'll stick to one name: CARAVAN
 ...Edit: already suggested... Since you are a DP fan, you MUST try Atomic Rooster, and most of the Seventies bands included in the Heavy Prog subgenre. I'd also recommend The Mars Volta, but they can be a bit of an acquired taste.... I love them, but others hate them. You could do much worse than get De-Loused in the Comatorium, though.
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Posted By: scruffydragon
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 04:53
Have to agree,fight the English only thingy,theres a whole world of great prog out there.Many of these bands did use English lyrics as well.Some of its just too good to miss out on.
You seem to have a broad spectrum of tastes,so it should not be too diffacult to adapt.
But if you only want English then I can only suggest trying the most english of genres,Canterbury.
 Hatfield and the North,these guys are just sooo... good.Quirky,funny,and complex.
National Health.Simular to Hatfield but less lyrics.Intense I would say.
Oh,I nearly forgot .......CARAVAN.(Best mention my fav's otherwise i'll get linched).
Just noticed you like ELP,could try Egg as they also have a very in your face keyboards,Great stuff indeed.
These are my fav's,but as said its a big world out there,and an even bigger prog universe to explore.Just have fun,and try it all,after all its the music that matters.And..........I have to agree,buy food then visit the record store.
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 05:03
Are you confusing RPI with RiO (Rock in Opposition) ?  ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 05:14
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Ok, let me make a few album suggestions:
Canterbury:
Caravan - In The Land of Grey and Pink
One of the most accessible and likeable Canterbury albums out there.
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
The exact opposite of ITLOGAP in that it is NOT accessible and likeable on first listen, but there's some great stuff going on in it if you concentrate on it.
Crossover Prog
Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (The third one, aka Melt)
The Gabe's best solo project with his most progressive sound.
Steve Howe - Natural Timbres
If you like his showcase tunes like Clap, Ram, and Masquerade, this album will amaze you.
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
A really weird musical suite that keeps mutating into something else as different instruments are added an dropped.
Eclectic Prog
Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia
Give this one a try to get a feel for some great early American prog. No idea how they ended up in eclectic, though. The other things you've heard from eclectic won't sound anything like this.
Heavy Prog
Rush - Permanent Waves
You aren't familiar with Rush? This is their most accessible album, and Natural Science is easily their best excursion into the epic form other than 2112.
Porcupine Tree -- Stupid Dream
My favorite album for their stellar pre-In Abestia period.
Italian Symphonic Prog
PFM - Per Un Amico
The Close To The Edge of Italian Symphonic Prog. Get it, love it, cherish it. If you just have to have English lyrics, you can get Photos of Ghosts instead, but I much prefer the original and I think you will too.
Le Orme - Felona e Serona
Another masterpiece from the genre that is filled with hidden masterpieces. You'll love it.
Jazz Rock
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire
A highly recommended blend of Jazz that jazzes and Rock that rocks. It's a fairly intense album.
Bill Bruford - One of a Kind
On the other side of the spectrum, this one is kind of mellow for the most part. If you are familiar with UK, it sounds like UK with the rock, the slow ballad parts and the atmospheric keys stripped out.
Neo-Prog
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear
A heavily Genesis influenced group that started a whole genre. This is where it began.
Pallas - The Sentinel
Pallas on the other hand had a very current (for the '80's) sound but managed to bring prog into the mix anyway. Take this recommendation with a grain of salt. I love the album, but not everybody does.
Prog Folk
Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
Gryphon was heavily influenced by medieval music and it shows, but by the time they hit their third album, they had also found a modern progressive sound. All instrumental here.
Progressive Electronica
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
I don't know much about TD, but Phaedra is an excellent synthesizer based album. Rather short by today's standards, and rather disturbing for electronic music.
Avant Prog
Frank Zappa - Apostrophe
Musically, this is the best of the rock side of Zappa that I've heard. (Well, Joe's Garage comes close.)
Symphonic Prog
UK - UK
You didn't mention UK. If you haven't heard their first album, listen to it.
Zeuhl
Magma - MDK
Get this one and learn what the Magma fuss is about. It's even more challenging than the Robert Wyatt album listed above, and even more rewarding.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 06:36
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You need some Canterbury mate, try some:
Caravan - In the land of grey and pink
Soft Machine - I & II
Egg - The civil surface
Hatfield and the north - The rotters club
Gong - Flying teapot
thos albums from thos great canterbury bands are all good starting points in my opinion, good luck. ------------- 
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 07:51
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I'm not confusing RPI and RIO because I love RIO. =P but it looks like I've read a few descriptions of the italian pop which place too much emphasis on the band's beliefs... and I'm more of an Area and Stormy Six fan than one of Banco. Oh well, just ignore my comment about the political side of things. =) ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 08:31
just to got back to your earlier PFM comment... they didn't remain outside of the political turmoil of those times. They, like Area, supported the PLO against Israel. Having done some concerts in support of them. In fact in is said The Chocolate KIngs was boycotted in the US for exactly that reason. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 09:35
maybe cause I live in Argentina and only know english and spanish? 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 09:37
I got Soft Machine Tour 74 or 75...really good but maybe too jazzy? |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 09:39
From Zappa I got almost all his discography and I have MO Birds of Fire and The Inner Mountain Flame and the following one with the orchestra. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 09:44
It would be easier living in Europe or U.S.A but I don's live there! Having lived 1.5 year in England made my english "incredible" compared to the english from here. Having knowing spanish of course too. My parents know french, italian and maybe few more, but I can't really learn more languages know, and I really don't want for now, having 13 years old. Maybe older yes... I think that clarifies yours and many others that say I should expand my boundaries. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 09:48
Ok thx... I'll try Atomic Rooster, Egg, Caravan, Soft Machine (studio albums) and...mmmm...some more!. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 10:05
| Do I give a try Cirscus of Life? |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 10:21
Thats why i recomend thier first 2 albums, thier later struff is much more jazzy but the first 2 are more like Syd Barrett era pink floyd with lots of fun things goin on and great singing by Robert Wyatt. When you got thos 2 then you can try thier later stuff.
And one more thing i know you tryed Pawn hearts by VdGG and didetn like it it, i whuld recomend you to before giving up completly on em try an earlier album thiere debut Earosol grey machine and The least we can do is weave to eachothers, are much beter starting albums then pawn hearts.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:03
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Okay thx.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:08
Cacho....NO, you missed the point completely dude.....I wasn't telling you to learn those languages. I was telling you it doesn't matter that you don't understand them. Big difference!!
Get over this falsehood that you have to understand the lyrical content to enjoy music. That's just an uptight hang-up some people have. Don't fall for it!
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:31
| Tool, Mars Volta and Pendragon are three bloody good bands, you should check them out. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:31
I completely agree. Some of my favorite music is not in English, and that is the only language I speak. If I had not opened myself to it, I would never have known the greatness of Nexus, Codice, Neverness, Atoll, In Spe, Le Orme, PFM, Banco, and many others. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 11:53
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Since you are a big Deep Purple fan, a band that you might enjoy is the Cosmic Nomads from Australia. They rely heavily on the Hammond Organ and at least to me their music is a throwback to 70's Deep Purple. Below is a link to their MySpace page which has 6 songs from their newest album. I'm not familiar with this album, but their previous album Vultress definitely has a DP vibe about it. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66783389 - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66783389 ------------- 
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 15:38
Well I believe James (Finnforest) already answered this, but once again you don't have to understand the lyrics for the music to get to you. Heck, I even find myself singing along to some Dungen or Drosselbart when I'm alone ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 18:17
Finnforest is right, it's prog for god sakes, LYRICS DONT MATTER! I quit concentrating on the words to songs years ago!
Looking at you original list, I get the feeling you dont like modern music, is this true? -------------
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 20:22
| Spock's Beard, Transatlantic |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 21:44
In that case, I'll recommend Crucis and Iconoclasta. You probably already have Crucis, seeing as how they are Argentina's top prog band (aside from La Maquina de Hacer Pajaros). The vocals are a little weak (Gustavo Montesano was never much of a singer), but the instrumental work is astonishing. Both of the albums are available together on a single CD. Iconoclasta are a 1980s prog band from Mexico. Mostly instrumental, and they only started using vocals on their third LP. It's just like 70s prog from anywhere else, except with a slight 80s sheen (slight, mind you). Also, some folks mentioned U.K. and National Health. Those are top bands, in my opinion. Both are pretty much prog supergroups that will rock your world. National Health takes the nutty complexity of the Canterbury scene and makes it their own. Astonishing. UK it also quite good and focus more on songs and suites rather than uber-long compositions. And hey, don't be too scared of those Italian groups. They're awesome, and if you speak Argentine Spanish, a good deal of the vocals will make sense |
Posted By: everyone
Date Posted: February 27 2008 at 23:57
Cacho...you da man!
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 28 2008 at 07:28
I also agree, I mean I haven't really tried out any non-English-speaking bands yet. But i listen to TMV and it may as well be in a completely different language! It makes no sense! Same goes with Yes to a certain extent. However, if you want to grasp the true feel of the song, lyrics are very important. Look at VDGG: lyrics are a key part in their music, and isn't it Peter Hamill's lyrical dexterity that makes the band that little bit more special? I find myself rewinding to the "Unknown, in a purpose, alone, but not worthless at home" in Pilgrims all the time just for the lyrical beauty. Music can be used in the same way as poetry, but that's only 20% of the enjoyment: if you don't understand a word they are saying, you still have the other 80% of melody, rhythm and complexity to enjoy ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 28 2008 at 12:29
Okay I'll try them..thx |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 29 2008 at 12:22
| I just bought Atomic Rooster Death Walks Behind You... It's great! Thx guys! I'll search for more stuff. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 29 2008 at 12:46
| Wow.. really incredible Atomic Rooster, any other album from them to recomend. (having DWBY)... Another similar band or from Heavy Prog but like the same style, I know Heep, this one and mmmm... 1 more I think. Rush don't think I'll get into them cause the voice.. But I don't want any band that reaches to the metal sound. I can take really heavy rock but not to metal. |
Posted By: ES335
Date Posted: February 29 2008 at 13:25
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Since you seem to really like psych/space and heavy stuff I would recommend Eloy and Hawkwind. I'm relatively new and only have one Eloy (Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes) and two Hawkwind (In Search of Space and Take Me To Your Future). These are all great albums. Porcupine Tree is another you would probably like. As for the language thing, I haven't purchased much Magma, but have listened to the MP3s here and some other sources. It might be a good place to test your ability to tolerate lyrics you can't understand. It's not like you are the only one who can't speak Kobaian. ------------- Bible-thumping heavyweight evangelistic boxing kangaroo |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 29 2008 at 19:13
Haha thx!.... But I'm not really I quite heavy prog lover, even though I love hard rock. Like I said before, I can't tolerate METAL even though it's prog. That's why Heep isn't on my top 10. Atomic Rooster is a hell of a band with just listening DWBY, really awsome, having much more instrumental, that hammond blows your mind away. Perhaps I'll try Eloy or Hawkwing, I'll hear some samples. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:17
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Hmmm....
When Cacho is asked a question or given a suggestion, he makes a semi intelligent answer or just say "ha, k thx", but when I ask him about his views on modern or instrumental music, I get the cold shoulder.
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:35
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Eeeeeeh Cacho!! jajaja
Have to agree with the others about your 'language'. I mean, most of the times I don't care about the lyrics when it's in other language than spanish. Not even a bit, really. I just care about the emotion the instrumentation and vocals give me.
And of course you should try our prog bands: Crucis, Sui Generis, Serú Girán, Spinetta Jade, Invisible, Aquelarre, and of course, Charly García. He's a very obscure musician, it's unlikely that you know him!
And to the Canterbury recommendations, I'd add: "Space Shanty" by Khan. It's the only and great album the band released before they disbanded and Hillage went to GonG. And of course GonG is great too!
That's all for now. Have a great listening experience, and remember it doesn't matter if you don't know what the song's talkin' about! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:40
Wow another Argentinian cool! Sui Generis is quite boring for me. But Spinetta's stuff is all great! And Pappo's too even though not being prog! |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:45
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El Carpo un maeeestro!!!!! Posiblemente el mejor violero del rock nacional, IMO.
RIP
And remember there's an mp3 sample for Khan. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:50
Khan? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:54
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^ Khan is a good recommendation if you liked Atomic Rooster, though they aren't considered HeavyProg they have the hard blues guitar (Hillage) and awesome Hammond (Dave Stewart) |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 01 2008 at 20:56
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oh okay!
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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:27
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You may want to listen to Jonsey - Masquerade - the Dawn years Anthology. Side 2 is good & reminds me of Gnidrolog & King Crimson (make sense of that!) East of Eden's Snafu & the amazing bombast that is Sea Shanties by High Tide. I recently played Unauthorised Behaviour by Brand X & was much more impressed than when I last heard it. The Best of Frumpy is excellent as is Chris Squire's Fish out of Water & of the newer stuff Riverside's Second Life Syndrome floats my boat. The biggest error I have made was getting some of that neo prog rubbish. Stay clear of SMPT by Transatlantic its awful. Colosseum, IF, Family, Spring, 801, Delivery & Alquin are all also worth checking out.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 06 2008 at 18:11
Tear Down the Wall!! Tear Down the Wall 
I'm listening to Skaldowie, polish  Very good indeed.
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Posted By: Wcfly
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 06:48
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your brain needs CAMEL!! (mirage) maybe RUSH although the vocals might sound a little heavy the music is fantastic, and i recommend ARENA aswell. ANGLAGARD does not have english lyrics but is mainly instrumental, its really a treasure. Van Der Graaf Generator can also match with your tastes. and also MARILLION. ps: I think you have an excellent taste in music! ------------- What you do is your own glory |
Posted By: foxpaw
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 10:21
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I think you should try "Trikolon" and "Syrius": http://uk.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=fredericfox&p=r - http://uk.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=fredericfox&p=r "Out of Focus" is also recommended. |