Is Pink Floyd the most influential prog rock band?
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Topic: Is Pink Floyd the most influential prog rock band?
Posted By: CCVP
Subject: Is Pink Floyd the most influential prog rock band?
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 01:18
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I know that this topic will be quite controversial, but i have gathered some arguments that convinced me that Pink Floyd is possibly the most influential band of progressive rock. 1st: its the only progressive rock band to be listed in the top selling bands / artists of the world that did not changed substantially their style throughout their career, unlike Genesis. 2nd: when punk emerged, Pink Floyd was one of the main bands to be directly attacked by the punks as they were one of the main progressive rock bands. 3rd: unlike the other big progressive rock giants like Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, Jethro Tull and Gentle Giant, their influence reaches far beyond prog rock. For example, are dance versions of Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb and Another Brick in the Wall pt2. Besides, On the Run is still played as a techno song by some DJs. 4th: Pink Floyd influenced many pop and pop rock bands, something that the progressive bands said above could not do so broadly, specially if you only consider their progressive periods. 5th: Among progressive rock bands, their reach is even bigger: they were capable to influence bands since the 70's until today and, unlike the many Yes, Genesis and ELP "clones", the floydian clones or floydian influenced bands usually get better grades here at the archives and sound much more original (that counting the 70's alone). Today their reach on prog rock have become even greater: they were an influence from space rock / psychedelic rock to extreme progressive metal metal, passing through many other genres of prog in between. 6th: their line up change were important to consolidate the style of the band. Besides, compared to the other bands listed here as essential progressive rock bands, their line-up change was minimal. To reinforce that, a small list of Pink Floyd-influenced bands : Dream theater, Pain of Salvation, Eloy, Negative Zone, Riverside, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pulsar and Violeta de Outono. Now, people from PA, DISSCUSS! -------------   
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 01:53
| I really don't think so, i'm not a big fan of Pink Floyd, some albums appeal more than others, but as a whole sometime can get very boring and repetative. Anyway the album that i like and considered a masterpiece and the best is to me Animals, followed by Dark side and Wall. other albums that i enjoy are Momentary laps and Division bell, the rest of the catalogue is to me kinda boring, i even give 3 stars to Wish you are here, so finally i don't think that Pink Floyd is the main band on this planet and the most inflencial prog rock band, but for sure they contribute a lot in growing and developing prog rock as a whole. I find albums from Genesis, Camel, Renaissance, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull or even Manfred Mann's Earth Bands to give some examples to be much more exciting or chalenging than many PF albums. So i don't know if i'm pleasing with this though but this is my opinion, very important band but not the most important. |
Posted By: Imadofus
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 02:02
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b_olariu, nobody is saying that Pink Floyd is the best prog rock band ever, CCVP just said that they're the most influential. To me, that's obviously true. EVERYBODY knows Pink Floyd (ok, mostly they just know Wish You Were Here and Another Brick in the Wall part 2), and the same cannot be said about any of the bands in this site (excluding Prog Related/Proto-Prog). Yes and Genesis are famous too, but nothing compared to PF. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Imadofus - last.fm |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 02:29
true, i did not said they were the BEST prog band. Besides, this thing of being the best is different for everyone. Everyone will have a different favorite band, so discuss this is useless. What i am saying here is more objective: i am saying that Floyd is the most influential band and asking if you agree or if you don't. Let's just discuss! -------------
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Imadofus wrote:Posted By: kenmartree
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 02:44
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@ b_olariu just because you don't like PF is not relavent to the conversation
I think that PF is the most well known by mainstream music people than any other Prog group. As for influential I don't thnk any of the bands you mentioned, Yes, Genesis, KC, etc. can be said to be more influential than another. Plus many of the bands you listed as influenced by PF i.e. Porcupine Tree, certainly had other influences besides PF.
Most influential does not exist.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 02:52
I'd go further - they're probably one of the most influential rock bands ever - possibly up there with the Beatles, Who and Stones.
1. Floyd were recording "Piper..." at Abbey Road at the same time that the Beatles were recording "Sgt Pepper", and it is known that McCartney, at least, attended some of the Floyd gigs in London.
2. Floyd were a strong influence on the development of Progressive music, which appears to have centered around the Marquee, where bands like The Syn, The Nice, Art, the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Jethro Tull and a large number of other bands all played and mingled.
3. I'd suspect, although I haven't made the solid links yet, that Floyd were an influence on the Ladbroke Grove scene that gave rise to heavier space rock bands like Hawkwind, The Pink Fairies, Twink and The Deviants.
4. The German Kosmisch scene owes a huge debt to Pink Floyd - their influence is almost tangible, especially on the earliest releases. Bands not influenced by Floyd from that time seem to be the exception, and limited to Can and Kraftwerk - although it's arguable that, without Floyd (and the Soft Machine), that kind of scene could never have arisen.
5. Floyd were also an influence on the avante-garde and electronic scenes in the early 1960s - the debut album by White Noise (Delia Derbyshire) features a long piece that is substantially based on "A Saucerful of Secrets".
In short, while their direct influence is still strong today, their indirect influence is now incalculable, as bands have been influenced by bands who were influenced by Floyd, and so it goes on.
Their style changed quite a lot from "Piper..." to "Meddle" - and "The Wall" was an even bigger stylistic change. After "The Final Cut", the Waters influence was noticeably missing, and the Dave Gilmour band settled into a more comfortable sound, so I don't think it's true to say that their style didn't substantially change.
Not really true either - most of the "attacking" by punks was tongue-in-cheek. Many punks were really Prog fans - and in some cases, Prog rockers.
You have to recall that punk was all about the attitude, and was supposed to be a big act that, because it was so aggressive and scary at the time, some people actually took seriously and took the bait and got all offended.
"Proper" punk is summed up by phrase "The Great Rock and Roll Swindle" - it was an attack on establishment, not Prog rock per se. Prog happened to get in the way because it was a big target to shoot at - and people like big targets because they're easier to hit.
Don't be confused by the fact that Johnny Rotten famously wore a T-Shirt stating "I Hate Pink Floyd" (or something like that). That was just part of the shock tactics - few things create a stir like hostile alienation. Rotten (Lydon) is famously a big Peter Hammill/VDGG fan. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:13
"so finally i don't think that Pink Floyd is the main band on this planet and the most inflencial prog rock band"
I said these words, i never said is the best prog rock band ever,
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:17
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[QUOTE=kenmartree]@ b_olariu just because you don't like PF is not relavent to the conversation
I think that PF is the most well known by mainstream music people than any other Prog group. As for influential I don't thnk any of the bands you mentioned, Yes, Genesis, KC, etc. can be said to be more influential than another. Plus many of the bands you listed as influenced by PF i.e. Porcupine Tree, certainly had other influences besides PF.
Most influential does not exist.
I just write what i think, so what is the big deal that i don't like so much PF like others, so i don't understand what is your first sentence.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:17
It's not very clear how you came to that conclusion - between the lines, it does read like you're saying "I don't like them, therefore they can't be the most influential"
Could you elaborate a bit more on why you don't think they're the most influential? ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:25
I think is a matter of taste after all, maybe you are right with don't like them, therefore they can't be the most influential", but not totaly. I will dig depper for my thouts and return with a solid argument.
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:27
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Pink Floyd were just the most accessible and marketable prog band. Hell, they only ever wrote two full prog albums (Wish You Were Here and Animals), the rest were just pop/rock albums with unique production. They were basically the Radiohead of the 70's. ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 03:53
Good stuff - but you surely don't think that "influential" is a matter of taste, when the facts speak for themselves? ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 04:16
I think is among the most popular in history of music and from the ‘70’s, but I can’t understant how thy become so big today. To give an example Gentle Giant’s or jethro Tull’s music is 100 time more intristing and challenging that anything PF done, to me . It’s true that PF influenced tones of bands from then and now but and other bands deed that. Doesn’t mean if some pieces from them are translate into elecronic or techno dance or other crap will be an influnceal part for this kind of music. I think PF is like Dream Theater today, to much noise about them, every where I look PF or DT, I read something PF or DT. To be very clear I like both bands, but because we talk about PF I like them and I appreciat their albums and I’m awear of the importance they have over the years but I don’t think is the most influencial band in prog rock, is a little overrated in my opinion, and all the music is good or bad or much in front or second league because of the tastes of the public that buy their music. Sorry if I misspeld some words, but I can’t give an answear better tha that right now. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 04:24
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i certainly would have thought that Pink Floyd was the most influential band that is listed as prog rock in the archives. Inarguably, an extremely influential band. Now we need a topic for the most influential prog-related bands. ;) And, in regards to an earlier point, most influential does exist. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: chaos8619
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 04:30
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My favorite album from Pink Floyd is Ummagumma (is the most experimental and innovator). And I'm really shore that without this album there will be not exist such music genre like Kraut, Avant-garde, Psychedelic electronic, Post-rock, Math rock, and so on. And it should be considerate in top 3 of the most influential prog rock band, whit artists like Mother of Invention/Frank Zappa and King Crimson.
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 04:51
Pink Floyd ... the most influencial prog band ever ... of course! 
PF's influence seems to have little genre boundry within the progosphere, and extends deep into the worlds of mainstram rock and pop.
And PF are easily the band with the most kudos with regard to bringing prog recognition to the masses.
I am very comfortable with statement that Pink Floyd is the most influential prog rock band ... and can see that PF could be up there with The Beatles as the most influential band of any (as Certif1ed has suggested).
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 05:00
I heard my first Can track - Halleluhwah - on a compilation of songs that influenced The Sex Pistols' John Lydon. I bought Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi not long after hearing this compilation.
Perhaps The Sex Pistols can get a credit for furthering the cause of Prog!
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 06:02
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Pink Floyd ... the most influencial prog band ever ... of course!
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 06:13
Hey Cert, I don't mean to nitpick but I think you should top that short list with Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix  just my two cents, but I want the young folks to get a proper education.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 06:26
 love Pete.. but ....ehhhh... wrong answer.  wihout the Beatles.. Hendrix would have still been a side-man for American R&B acts.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 07:17
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re: the topic on hand... Floyd... without ANY shred of doubt... even towers above King Crimson. and that is no mean feat... Piper may or not have been a 'prog' album personally I don't think it was..it was in the grey area between psych and prog. .which of course gave us the 'grey' prog genre of space rock hahah. Anyhow.. the next one. Saucerful.. was without any doubt. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:00
There is no shame in being a sideman for American RnB acts, otherwise I have wasted much of my life, ha ha. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:09
none at all  ... I'd have given my right arm to put down some funky bass lines with the Isley Brothers hahhaha
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:26
Just to pass the nits back, Hendrix and Dylan were individuals rather than bands
 - and I'd agree with the earlier poster, Townsend was wrong. Hendrix was and still is very influential, but the styles of music he expanded on already existed - his output was not as varied as that of the Beatles, Stones - or even the Who, as it sat comfortably within the heavy blues rock sphere, with nudges towards jazz-like experimentation. Once you've heard one Hendrix song, you can make accurate predictions about how other Hendrix songs might sound - the surprises come in the guitar fireworks.
Dylan, though, I'd agree with - he's probably single-handedly responsible for the emergence of Progressive popular music (and hence progressive rock). His plugging in at Newport notably predates everything that can be considered as Progressive Rock (although I'm still digging into the archives of such progressive artists/songwriters as Graham Bond and Del Shannon).
The most important and influential individual, as far as ROCK music in the UK is concerned, was Lonnie Donegan.
Altogether now; " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Qf5kaiQ9o - Ohhhhhh My old man's a dustman.. ."
Only kidding - actually, it's " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olf7Ibtg1lM - Rock Island Line " that's the #1 important, most influential and ultimate world-changing piece of music of all time (that we know of).
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:34
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Yes, they are the most influential prog rock band of all time. You can hear nods towards Floyd in all manner of music, from ambient electronica, to pop, to classic rock and fo course modern prog. One of the recent Coldplay singles had a post Waters era Floyd feel to it, imo. Dont ask me what the song is called. I dont listen to Coldplay. I keep hearing it on the radio..
Of all the Prog rocks bands, Floyd were the biggest selling, and were a household name, more so than even Genesis or Yes at the height of their progginess. If they registered more on the wider record buying public, then it automatically follows that their influence will be greater than a band relatively few people have heard of, or taken any notice of. The main reason for this, of course, is that Floyd were not percieved to be a prog rock band, by the record buying public at large. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:37
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Andy ...how about ....Genesis... both Floyd AND Genesis were considered Art Rock bands... thus by extrapolation... prog bands. The only people who don't consider Floyd prog.. are those that don't consider Genesis prog because they don't know the jack crap about the genre... and of course the 'complexity crew' that think if it ain't complex.. it ain't prog. Which is a load of bullsh*t if I've ever heard it.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:44
just my two cents, but I want the young folks to get a proper education. Pete Townsend - "Hendrix did more to change rock than the Beatles."[/QUOTE]
Just to pass the nits back, Hendrix and Dylan were individuals rather than bands
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:47
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Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 11:38
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Floyd the most influential prog band?? Of course!!! Their music influence goes beyond prog, beyond rock and even beyond music, just see how much poetry, painting, literature, movies and other numerous means of art are influenced by the PF music!!! It's incredible that a true prog rock band has been capable of placing prog into the core of the family  It's true that they're not the best, and technically not even near, but they're clearly the most known and influential band of prog rock, and one of the most in the whole modern music scene. Their social and intellectual lyric sense in undeniable. Also they're cited in some sites as the 3rd biggest selling band of all time, but I'm not sure... ------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 11:53
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A friend of mine and I (I believe he's a forum member now, though not
on very often...) had a LONG argument about this one night while
annoyed other friends looked on waiting for us to finish. My argument
was YES, Pink Floyd are the most influential. Best? Probably not, but
definitely the most influential along with some of the other very big
names. Pink Floyd came first (more or less) and anyone who knows
anything (even some people who don't know about any prog) about prog
will know Pink Floyd as the prog artist (although we in the prog community know better). I think it's a 'like it or not' moment, but I think Pink Floyd are definitely the most influential. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 11:57
Exactly, which is why I said Floyd are not broadly perceived to be a prog rock band by the non prog record buying public. Because their music is relatively accessable and simple in form, they are not synonomous with all the things people claim to dislike about prog rock. Of course, thats just the people who actually know what prog is. |
Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 14:59
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Yes,I think Pink Floyd is the most influential band.That is because they achieved too much,I think.Lets see there history.They have noncommercial period (1965-1970) - by it they influenced to psychedelic rock underground society.They have commercial progressive period (1970-1980) - by it they influenced to progressive music as whole.At the end they have commercial radio-friendly period (1980-1995) - by it they influenced to some pop/pop rock/rock bands.Moreover,Dark Side of the Moon still sold 500000 albums every year.I think it is very influential.I think they are one of the most influential music acts generally,not only in prog music.Here I speak only about the influence,not about the quality of music.That is another topic.But they are at the top,too. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 16:30
Depends in how we define influential:
But without any doubt, Pink Floyd is one of the most respected and influential bands in Prog and one of the few that crossed the fronteers of Prog to become a Rock icon. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 16:51
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Oops, lost my response. But of course Pink Floyd had a much bigger impact than just on progressive rock. Genesis was a heavy influence on Neo-Prog, but Neo-Prog is not a well-known style outside of Progressive Rock circles. I'd never heard the term before rediscovering prog, so while important o consider Neo-Prog from an influnce on Prog angle, I'd rather approach this more generally.
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Posted By: YesGoblin
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 17:04
| This is probably true, since as discussed before almost every one has heard of pink floyd ( you'd be hard pressed to find someone who hasn't, even if they are not familiar with their songs). They managed to become more of a mainstream band although their musicical style was by no means following the trend. Sometimes i forget that they are progressive just because they did become so popular and usually this term is associated with the lesser known bands such as Yes, Genesis and ELP ( The average teenager has no clue who these bands are , and Emerson Lake and Palmer could easily be mistaken for the name of some company) |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 21:30
Ummaguma, Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Saucerful of secrets......pop/rock albums?????
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 21:41
Of course PINK FLOYD is one of the most influential band from the ''classic'' times. They are right up there with the Beatles, Stones, Who , Led Zep................everybody, except a few people living in Bhuttan and Tanzania have never heard about this band.....even my grand-ma knew about them, and no she is not the one who was playing this mean banjo dear to Yorkie!!
A lot of German and French bands walked in the footsteps of PF. They are still selling in 2008 CONTAINERS of Cds, especially Dark Side and The Wall.
And in the eventuality they reform....the 4 of them....would be gigantic concerts sold-out including the old fan like me and..the young kids of today....PF music is beyond generations and will stay relevant and visible well after the passing of their members in the future, like it or not.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: July 23 2008 at 23:11
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LOL, this was probably the fastest discussion i ever saw here. Everybody just agreed, what is very good . However one thing i was really impressed to know was the Hammill influence over Johnny Rotten. In fact, i though the prog-hating thing was the rule on punk, because i have never seen a 'real' punk defend prog rock, only attack it. But how can a genre of rock, such as prog, that has the perpetual change (joke intended) as its main characteristic be classified as a symbol of establishment? -------------
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 10:58
Saucerful - Basically a continuation of their Piper sound, had some progressive moments, but certainly wasn't prog Ummagumma - The studio disc is an interesting experiment, but isn't what I'd call "prog rock". The live disc definitely was though. Meddle - "one Of These Days" and "Echoes" are definitely prog, but everything else is pretty ordinary psychadelic pop/rock/blues (doesn't matter if they had a dog barking) Atom Heart Mother - What I said about Meddle pretty much applies here. A multi-part epic, a cool experimental song, and a few pop/psychadelic tunes. Pink Floyd were great. I love many of those albums. But Wish You Were Here and Animals were the only albums where they really embraced the prog rock style, and they certainly weren't as big of an influence on that style, compared to Genesis or Yes. However, they were a lot more influential on music in general than most prog bands. but mostly due to their massive popularity. -------------
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 11:34
I agree with you My friend 1000% why? look at my collection....
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 11:37
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It really depends on how you define progressive rock. To me classic progressive rock is defined by King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Yes, ELP, VdGG and Genesis. Pink Floyd doesn't really fit with all that to me.
Pink Floyd up through Dark Side is one of my all-time favorite bands, after that I like certain songs, but to me they have a lot more in common with other bands who take a blues, pop and gospel(whether they are conscious of it or not, Floyd has a huge American gospel influence in their music) backdrop and then blow it into huge porportions. The difference between Floyd and albums like Disraeli Gears and Electric Ladyland is that Floyd presents their music in an air of mystery more conducive to 'prog-rockers' and they tend to chain their musical ideas together rather than present seperate songs. Also their voices have that light British art-school quality favored by the prog crowd. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 11:42
POP/ROCK Album?  are you saying that Aton Heart Mother, Meddle, Ummagumma,A saucerful of secrets ect.. were pop album?.... Man what are you smoking????? how dare you of comparying the Mighty Floyd with the Poooopy radiohead... Gosh.......  .....------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 11:42
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I gota say something about this. Whenever a discussion is about: is Pink Floyd this or that; i gotta say something. Yes its true, Pink Floyd were a progressive rock group, and one of the best, I might add, though they're really not my cup of tea in my day by day life, I simply love albums like Piper's, Animals, WYWH, Dark Side and The Wall. This said, now comes what I REALLY wanted to say. Well, its a bit difficult to analyse if they were the most influential PROG rock group. In one side, its true, they were the most influential ROCK group, what I mean by this, is that, although they weren't (in my opinion of course) the most experimentalist (they were because they made rock music evolve in the sixties, i wont get into much details, there are people here who know better the work of PF, than me) being that King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Yes and others made works that tried to push the rock genre to other side; PF however stayed in more prog pop world, and developed essentially with a Dark Side and The Wall a great number of fans, and nowadays they're considered by the comercial rock world magazines as the best rock group ever, which is really wrong I might add, theres no best rock group ever; if you mean theyre imnportant because they marked an age, thats true, but such groups as The Who, Beatles and Rolling Stones are considered the best rock acts ever, and thats not entirely true, apart from the great music they made, which isnt in discussion here; theyre considered the best by people who never heard prog groups, but as all, in the end is just a matter of taste. Maybe I dwelled a bit here, and lost my point, but yeah, essentially theyre the most influential and known rock group, but i dont consider them the most influential prog-rock group. WHen I hear Dark Side and I hear Close to the Edge, or any album from GG until Free Hand; or any Criimson album from ITCOTCK to RED; or any Zappa album; I doubt theyre the most influential prog-rock group. And I know I'm going to be attacked by saying this. Bear in mind that I like Piink Floyd, and I'm interested in developing my interest in their music. Let's just argue peacefully about this ok? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/LeInsomniac/?chartstyle=volta"> 
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 11:44
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: July 24 2008 at 12:52
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vBMmSvgkY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vBMmSvgkY
Rick Wakeman: " In the beginning GOD created Pink Floyd". yeap he said that..Mr.Rick wakeman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achCCqpIvOE&NR=1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achCCqpIvOE&NR=1
Pete Townsend: " A Pink Floyd gig is the only reason why I missed a "THE WHO" show period. On January the 20th 1967 I skip an Who's gig" to take "ERIC CLAPTON" to see "SID BARRETT".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Against_The_Wall - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Against_The_Wall
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13383 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13383
look! what is the line up for this Pink Floyd tribute album? man...... all Prog Pioneers....!
 This for those that say that Pink Floyd isn't the most influential progressive rock band ever!
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 23:50
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I would say Floyd is more influential in rock in general, but Crimson is probably more influential, or just as much as Floyd, in prog
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Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 00:32
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Pink Floyd was never called a prog band until after the heyday was over. All through the 60's and 70's they were referred to by everyone as "Space Rock"or just "Space Music", along with groups like Hawkwind. I guess critics in the 80's who didn't really know better lumped them in with other prog bands, but I've never considered them "prog". My first Pink Floyd album purchase was "Ummagumma" in 1970. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 02:30
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Floyd were an essential part of, if not the first band in the Progressive music scene in the late 1960s (and "everyone" called it the Progressive music scene!), so Floyd can easily be argued to be the first Prog band.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 07:07
We didn't use the word "prog', but "back then" we (progressive rock fans in the states, early 70s) certainly referred to bands like Crimson, Genesis, Yes, ELP, PFM etc as progressive rock. I think we sort of lumped Floyd in there too although they really were not playing the same kind of compositions as the previously mentioned bands. Floyd was also often grouped with bands like Hawkwind and called "space rock", which has already been mentioned. As early as the late 60s and early 70s FM stations in the states that played long songs and album sides were called progressive rock radio or underground radio. I know, I was listening to these stations all the time. |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 20:34
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It actually depends on how important would you consider alternative rock nowadays in the music scene....... Peace. ------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 16:45
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My point of view on this matter has already been defended by some others but I would like to add some thoughts. Is Pink Floyd the most influential prog rock band? I would have to say No, but not because they were not influential, but because they were not a prog rock band. I always thought that Pink Floyd was an extremely influential psychedelic rock band with an enormous influence ON prog rock. Just like The Beatles, The Who, The Moody Blues, Deep Purple and some others, Pink Floyd surely contributed to the creation of prog rock which would make them either proto-prog or prog-related. Or am I wrong? Pink Floyd’s first album came out already in 1967, the same year as Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s album (another factor that was an important influence on prog rock without being prog itself). I thought that prog rock began first in 1969/70 with King Crimson’s debut album, Renaissance’ debut album and then in the early 70’s with bands like Yes, Genesis and ELP(?) By that time Pink Floyd had released many albums already and most importantly, I think, they were already famous before prog rock even started. Maybe later on Pink Floyd was influenced back by prog bands just like The Who probably were when they did Quadrophenia in 1973. But the fact that The Who was influenced by prog bands and came close to prog later on doesn’t make them a “genuine” prog band does it? So, even if Pink Floyd influenced many prog bands in the late 60’s and then were influenced themselves by prog bands in the 70’s doesn’t make them a prog band. They had an influence on non-prog bands too right? The Moody Blues is another band that I think was very influential on prog but without being prog themselves. The Moodies had success already in 1967 with their debut. This album, Days Of Future Past, as well as the subsequent ones were very influential on prog, but were they really prog? Maybe Jethro Tull could prove me wrong because I do consider them prog even if they had success with their two first albums that weren’t really prog. Am I being inconsistent in considering JT prog but not Moody Blues and Pink Floyd? I don’t know. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 16:47
This would be my post as well. Fantastic summarizing. I'm glad you posted it for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: July 30 2008 at 16:53
Thanks! I'm glad I could be of some service
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Posted By: splyu
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 17:53
| Considering Kraftwerk are categorized as "Progressive Electronic" on here... I'd say they are easily as influential as PF - not on the progressive scene obviously, but on the general music scene. |
Posted By: Steve-A
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 18:19
Don't try to argue it with Gilmour though, because he actually said in a recent interview that Pink Floyd were not a progressive rock band, but an art rock band.
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 21:43
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Haven't read all the posts so excuse me if this has already been said. Floyd probably were the most influential band to get progressive rock in the mainstream public eye and accepted as an alternate music to pure pop or rock. However I certainly do not think they were the most influential prog band musically and artistically....I'd have to go with Yes, Crimson, Genesis & Gentle Giant. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 21:49
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Well I do see Pink Floyd as truly progressive, but I can understand why people wouldn't think that way.
However, I think they are definetely the most influential prog band. Not influential to prog fans, but the most overall influential prog band. No other prog band has influenced more fans of music then these guys. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 22:13
Influenced in what way?...to expose prog rock to a wider audience or influence future bands in a particular musical style...I agree with former but disagree with the latter. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: September 08 2008 at 22:36
Well they have influenced the music making process of many bands in any way. For example, pretty much any fan of rock has at least heard of Pink Floyd and millions of people have heard their music. I can also say from experience that many musicians at folk festivals cite Pink Floyd as one of their influences. Many classical musicans I know are huge fans of Pink Floyd, and quite a few jazz fans like Pink Floyd.
However, I can't say the same for Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Rush, or Jethro Tull. I can say that the latter bands have influenced more people who are mostly just fans of prog rock. Most prog bands will cite these bands more than Pink Floyd, at least in my experience. -------------
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 09 2008 at 05:04
first of all: Pink Floyd DID change their style substantially. while the early albums were very psychedelic the latter ones lost that psychedelic touch, and they became the big epic makers. the turning point probably was "Dark Side of the Moon", though the process was a gradual one. It is probably because of the gradual nature of style change that you don't realize it, but compare their early albums to their latter ones, and you will get the drift. the more this epic style evolved the worse they became; "Animals" is already quite boring, and I never understood the high rating of that album. 2nd: what the punks really attacked was the lack of spirit, which became obvious in many prog rock bands in the middle of the 70s; they were just going through the motions. Pink Floyd only was a prominent name; they certainly were not influential for the development of Punk. Van der Graaf Generator had a lot more influence there. Pink Floyd were also, compared to other prog bands, pretty simple in their musical structure, especially harmonically. so they don't have much of an influence their either. they did have a great influence on the development of sounds though; actually sounds were their biig forte. however, for their latter albums they forgot about that forte and replaced "sounds" with "sound", meaning "acoustical endeavours" with "perfection and sterility". they did what they sung about themselves in the song "Wish You Were Here". 3rd: there have been dance versions of songs from lot of other prog bands, not only Pink Floyd. even Gentle Giant have been mistreated that way; there was a post about it somewhere in the forum. anyway, "dance version" is a pretty misleading term; I actually believe that some of the originals are a lot more danceable than these so-called "dance versions". adding a heavy 4/4 beat only makes the dance more monotonous, which sadly applies to the moronic masses. dance is an art form. as to the Floydian clones: I am not quite sure which bands you refer to. the only one that really comes to my mind is Eloy. but that's probably because Pink Floyd are not one of my favorite bands at all; I like some of their old albums, especially "Ummagumma" and ""Meddle", perhaps to a certain extent "Wish You Were Here"", but most of the stuff which is awed by many simply leaves me cold. I am not too fond of neo-prog though and try to avoid it; perhaps some of the clones can be found there. Dream Theater, however, are definitely not Floyd clones; they have a completely different approach to music. so, after contradicting all your arguments, let us take a look at what the real influence of Pink Floyd was. as Certif1ed already mentioned, they were an influence on the Krautrock scene. that influence is a bit coincidental though. using drugs (and whatever Waters may say today, Pink Floyd did use drugs) will lead to this kind of, in lack of a better word for it, "fraying out" of music which is typical for some of the early Pink Floyd music as well as for early Karutrock.. their strive towards sound perfection, which I mentioned before, definitely also was a big influence, though in my opinion not a positive one. it led to the sterility of most of the newer music. so yes, they were influential, but not the way CVVP means -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 09 2008 at 08:34
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: September 09 2008 at 16:08
That's how we see it now - I'm not certain that's how we saw it then. I certainly drew a thick black line between prog like Genesis, Yes et al and art rock like Supertramp, 10CC, Bowie et al. |
Posted By: kerosineboy
Date Posted: September 09 2008 at 17:27
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Hmm this raises a few juicy issues. For a start the hoary old chestnut are the Floyd really a prog band? I have visited plenty of other prog sites that will have none of it! However I must agree that quantitively they are one of the most influential bands in any genre. Qualitively it may be different. As a recent convert to current progressive bands I would say that a lot of the Floyd influenced stuff is a bit averege. I like Floyd themselves and have some of their albums, but for me the best new prog from bands such as Anekdoten, Carptree, Ritual and Beardfish is influenced more by the likes of Crimson, Giant and Generator. I know this is purely personal preference but if you are talking importance of influence you have to consider more than just numbers. ------------- The answer is never where the question is |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 02:51
I'm not talking about Art Rock as some kind of identifiable genre (which it isn't and never has been - it's a kind of bucket to put bands in that have vaguely artistic tendencies), I'm talking about Art Rock as a musical classification - there's a big difference ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 03:27
| ^ And I'm merely telling you what I (and perhaps we) thought then. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 04:56
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I can understand why anyone would draw a line between the bands you mentioned, but not with Pink Floyd, who, I would suspect, are categorised differently by a lot of people - it's not unfair to categorise them as Psychedelic, Space Rock, Prog Rock or whatever - but I find it hard to lump them in with the likes of Bowie, Supertramp, 10CC etc. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 05:48
| ^ Which, understandably, I was not doing. Pink Floyd was unquestionably Prog Rock for me and my mates, though we'd just as often call them acid-rock. Well on the far side of our thick black line. My original point was that to us, prog rock and art rock were quite different things. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 06:10
Not until I discovered Prog Archives did I find myself contemplating PF as a prog band - and then that Channel 4 programme on prog's top ten reinforced that suggestion. In the early days, many of us in the UK certainly did not think Pink=Prog, this was THE UK psychedelic band. Until Dark SIde, they remained psychedlic and Dark Side was perceived as a rock album by many who bought it and those with memories still a psychedelic album, which lacked the then mechanics of progression - even so the mainstream proggers were hitting levels of burn-out at that that time too. It was with Dark Side taking off in the USA and the third generation pundits there calling this prog, then I guess that categorisation starting to stick. As for "influential"..... I feel the term gets very abused. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 06:12
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^^To be honest I don't think any of the bands " in the groove" at the time gave a toss about genres and prog rock classifications, they just lived the moment
For all us genre classifying zealots, yes we can split what is art rock and what is prog rock, personally I feel that any sub genre is progressive rock anyway. Surely Art Rock was an offspring of Prog Rock?
I'd be curious who you would classify as the top 3 Art Rock bands ( purely subjective IYO)  and digressing from the subject a bit------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 06:15
True, Psychedelic was definitely a description widely used for Floyd in the late 60's to mid 70's ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 06:50
The most widely used description in 1967 was Pop Music... it's printed on the back of every copy of Piper... sold in that year - and until the Columbia label changed to the black and silver one.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:32
Wide open to debate. A long time ago before this site was created I asked on another site for definitions of 'Art Rock' and dates as to when the term came about. One American correspondent told me the term was used in the USA as early as1968. 'Progressive rock' is from early 70's whilst 'progressive music' is from 1968 in the UK - and that term was interchangeable with 'underground music'. Personally I think I heard the term first with respect to Roxy Music's first album - therefore some entanglement with 'glamrock' too. As stated before, I was using the term 'progressive music' to label as section of record shop I worked in - the first entries were Canned Heat's Boogie With and John Mayall's Diary Of A Band (Vols 1 & 2), Moody Blues Days of ... i.e.in 1968 ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:35
The (London) Times review of live rock band gigs was always under the heading 'Pop' until only to a few years ago......................... Do they mean popular????? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: DataBase
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:49
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the answer is yes!
their influence can be heard in bands all over the world in the 70s, 80s, 90s and beyond.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:52
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I am of the opinion that prog is nothing but an offspring of psychedelic. this is especially obvious with Krautrock ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: DataBase
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:53
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Posted By: DataBase
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:56
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Psychedelic begat Progressive begat Kosmiche LSD and narcotics being the single common factor
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Posted By: DataBase
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 10:59
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psychedelic = late 60's USA
progressive = early 70's UK
kosmiche = late 70's Germany
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Posted By: DataBase
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 11:20
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PSYCHEDELIC EVOLUTION MUSICALLY REVOLUTION
I got the song title, anyone got the lyrics?
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 12:31
just spotted this on you tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y823xRV31eo&feature=related where a very much jazz fusion-oriented Soft Machine are playing at "Pop Festival" in 1971!! ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 12:34
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Pink Floyd were quite influential to Prog early on. I remember seeing an old interview with Ian Anderson, and he mentioned Piper At the Gates of Dawn as influential to him personally and subsequently to Jethro Tull. However, since then Pink Floyd's scope of influence has expanded well beyond just Prog. ------------- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 13:07
Agree up to a point - I think that Prog emerged from Psych like a butterfly from a cocoon - not so much an offspring as the next stage in evolution, but less earthbound.
Couple of amendments to the database...
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 10 2008 at 13:25
Well I guess the conversation has come full circle because I would consider Floyd to be progressive blues along with Hendrix. Of course both artists did lot's of other things too. THIS THREAD DOES NOT SUGGEST ADDING NEW GENRES OR ARTISTS TO PA WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY PERFECT AND THEREFORE DOES NOT NEED TO BE IMPROVED UPON. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: September 11 2008 at 03:23
Again, I wouldn't argue with that. But WE thought it was prog rock. I still feel that way about the title track of 'Atom Heart Mother' and 'Echoes'. They seem archetypal symphonic prog to me. As for top three art rock bands - back then we would have said Roxy Music, 10CC, Supertramp, David Bowie - oops, that's four. Subtract ELO and that makes three *plays fast and loose with maths* |
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 03:35
| The Floyd are among the most influential bands in the world ever, bec they were more abt ideas, textures and expressions, things that anyone could take and incorporate in their own music w/o needing too much instrumental technique. Plus they're MUCH easier to rip off n copy than Yes or KC right? hehehe |
Posted By: Chelsea
Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 11:16
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The most influential rock act to help start prog rock was the Beatles not Pink Floyd. The Beatles were too eclectic to be labeled as one type of music but what they certainly had strong progressive elements especially in their psychedelic music. Syd Barrett listened intently to what the Beatles were doing on songs like “Tomorrow Never Knows" and "Strawberry Fields Forever". Some people are blinded here in their opinion because of the Beatles pop/rock style. The Beatles were great at using melody and counter-melodies with quirky chord progressions which made them already different than say your average three chord rock and roll artist. It was their approach to psychedelic music that made them different than the guitar, bass, drum and sometimes keyboard style of everyone else. The Beatles were using backward tape, modes, avant sampling or tape loops, authentic Indian instrumentation, Indian drone and mode, orchestras, mixed and odd time signatures, vocals through Leslie speakers, mellotron and this was in 1966 before Pink Floyd, The Doors and Hendrix released their first record. The Byrd's also started experimenting with tape loops and backward tape only after the Beatles. Pink Floyd just was one of many bands that were influenced by the Beatles experimental style that became Progressive Rock. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 12:25
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One of the most influential prog rock band?? of course they are!!!!!!, i think everyone has hear a PF once in their entire life. -------------  |
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Date Posted: September 12 2008 at 12:28
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Posted By: Lucent
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 23:01
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Pink Floyd isn't the most influential prog rock band. They're the most overrated prog rock band. /thread |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 04:22
They're not overrated - and they are the most influential prog rock band.
/thread.
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Posted By: Lucent
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 12:21
Too bad that nobody has heard the words "King Crimson" before that, as they coined the term of progressive rock. Pink Floyd only managed to come around, do the dullest 20 minute epic ever, release a mediocre album, and gain international fame for it. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 12:40
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King who?
Oh - you mean the ever-changing band that's led by Robert Fripp - the guy who hates the term Progressive Rock (and definitely didn't invent it - that happened a year or so before King Crimson formed).
That band?
You hear their influence in more bands than Pink Floyd's?
You listen to different bands to me, clearly. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 12:51
Overrated to whom??? you!!! ..oh that would change the course of music history!!! And what does it mean ''overrated''.......That you, Lucent, does not seem to like Pink Floyd! Too bad!
This thread is not about if you like ..or hate like you seem PF, this is about PF being the most influential prog rock band! Not a personal taste matter.
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Posted By: Lucent
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 13:25
It's funny that everyone starts whining at me as soon as I have a different opinion than everyone else. How conservative of you. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 15:14
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 15:16
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No way it's Pink Floyd. They're up there on the list, but The Beatles are the most INFLUENTIAL. Not the best, but the most influential. Without them there would be no prog. -------------
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 16:10
 The problem here is with your use of "most." There is simply no credible, objective way to measure or establish this in such a case.
Were Pink Floyd a very influential prog band?
certainly
Were other prog bands, such as Genesis and King Crimson, also very influential?
undoubtedly
I think you are letting your preference for one band (that is, personal taste -- bias) get in the way of sound reasoning and logic. You should reserve the use of absolute terms like "most" for things which can be objectively measured, such as rainfall, or money.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 19:08
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Well I see a few problems with arguments here.
Some people are saying that King Crimson are the most influential prog band ever. I beleive that they are the most influential prog band to fans of progressive rock. I have talked to prog fans who love King Crimson, and maybe a few jazz lovers. But oftentimes I'll ask musicians if they like King Crimson, and they will ask, "Who?". However, pretty much everyone I know has at least heard of Pink Floyd, and many musicians in general cite them as an influence. They are the most influential prog rock band, but not inside the realm of prog, they are the most influential prog band in the realm of rock, blues, jazz, pop, and prog put together, which is certainly bigger than the realm of prog.
And people say the Beatles too. The Beatles are not prog, but a very excellent prog related pop band. They are quite possibly the most influential band ever, but they are not a prog band.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 20:14
That sentence is void, how can you tell some thing like that? at least make an argument and be objective.  ------------- |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 20:20
Well Lucent it's not whining it's attention and good manners, many of us can pass by your comments if we do not mind your opinion, but we mind!!! and at least you have to explain why in your perspective are "overrrated" ------------- |