Boogie with Vs Living the blues
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Topic: Boogie with Vs Living the blues
Posted By: jean-marie
Subject: Boogie with Vs Living the blues
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 06:58
My favorite Canned Heat albums, difficult to choose between On the road again ang Going for the country....
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 08:11
Going up the Country is all they are known for thanks to the wonderful world of radio.I would pick Living the Blues for the following reasons....It has the most outstanding harp playing from Blind Owl Wilson, it has John Mayall playing cool piano on 1 track, It has some experimental jamming and ambient sitar. The problem with this band in America is that on the whole...they are not taken seriously. They have a reputation of being a kick out biker band or a get down and boogie party band only. They are popular for the boogie style, but all those many tracks from their official releases that are jazzy blues are dismissed from radio and it takes away from their presentation of diverse talent. Fito could have played drums on any Santana or Jeff Beck release. He also played a jazz style which was beyond that. It was Henry Vestine who got on my nerves with his choppy guitar style. They are not taken seriously by the mass and especially not in America. Maybe in America during the time "THE DOORS" were opening for them. Most people I have crossed paths with consider them just a boogie band who wrote that silly song made even more popular for the Woodstock film. lol
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 08:42
Out of the two, I only know 'boogie with CH', which is pretty good.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 08:48
Sure is difficult. The studio Lp of Living With... is exceptional but the live Lp, Refried Boogie Parts 1 & 2 is a long, too long jam session. Boogie With..., has "On The Road Again" which I prefer to "Going Up The Country" and has "Fried Hockey Boogie", a Canned classic. My third choice would be Future Blues with Harvey Mandel.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 08:59
cannon wrote:
Sure is difficult. The studio Lp of Living With... is exceptional but the live Lp, Refried Boogie Parts 1 & 2 is a long, too long jam session. Boogie With..., has "On The Road Again" which I prefer to "Going Up The Country" and has "Fried Hockey Boogie", a Canned classic. My third choice would be Future Blues with Harvey Mandel. | Agree about Future bues
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 09:01
TODDLER wrote:
Going up the Country is all they are known for thanks to the wonderful world of radio.I would pick Living the Blues for the following reasons....It has the most outstanding harp playing from Blind Owl Wilson, it has John Mayall playing cool piano on 1 track, It has some experimental jamming and ambient sitar. The problem with this band in America is that on the whole...they are not taken seriously. They have a reputation of being a kick out biker band or a get down and boogie party band only. They are popular for the boogie style, but all those many tracks from their official releases that are jazzy blues are dismissed from radio and it takes away from their presentation of diverse talent. Fito could have played drums on any Santana or Jeff Beck release. He also played a jazz style which was beyond that. It was Henry Vestine who got on my nerves with his choppy guitar style. They are not taken seriously by the mass and especially not in America. Maybe in America during the time "THE DOORS" were opening for them. Most people I have crossed paths with consider them just a boogie band who wrote that silly song made even more popular for the Woodstock film. lol | Good Analysis....I love Mayall too ,saw him in Paris in the seventies, his birthday dvd is great.....Did you read the book by Fito about CH ?
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 10:31
jean-marie wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
Going up the Country is all they are known for thanks to the wonderful world of radio.I would pick Living the Blues for the following reasons....It has the most outstanding harp playing from Blind Owl Wilson, it has John Mayall playing cool piano on 1 track, It has some experimental jamming and ambient sitar. The problem with this band in America is that on the whole...they are not taken seriously. They have a reputation of being a kick out biker band or a get down and boogie party band only. They are popular for the boogie style, but all those many tracks from their official releases that are jazzy blues are dismissed from radio and it takes away from their presentation of diverse talent. Fito could have played drums on any Santana or Jeff Beck release. He also played a jazz style which was beyond that. It was Henry Vestine who got on my nerves with his choppy guitar style. They are not taken seriously by the mass and especially not in America. Maybe in America during the time "THE DOORS" were opening for them. Most people I have crossed paths with consider them just a boogie band who wrote that silly song made even more popular for the Woodstock film. lol | Good Analysis....I love Mayall too ,saw him in Paris in the seventies, his birthday dvd is great.....Did you read the book by Fito about CH ? |
I've watched the Bio on DVD several times and found that interesting. I'm sure the book gets into more detail. I found Blind Owl to be an interesting character. Sleeping in bushes and the band having to dig through soil samples in his pockets to find an airline ticket. Strange, intelligent, and nerdy he was......he was a driving force of great originality to that band. He was the progressive side to the band as he mixed ethnic styles with his open guitar tunings and wild harmonica playing to be heard on the official studio recordings. Mike Bloomfield and John Lee Hooker thought he was the most original harp player in the world. I agree. There was something very strange and unique about his phrasing. Blind Owl was supposedly close to Janis Joplin who was a bit of a misfit herself. People in the past have often made fun of his geeky vocals and compared them to the style of Neil Young
. My theory is that he was emulating the vocal style of the old Blues women from the 1930's. If you listen to some of the old blues recordings during the Robert Johnson era (which were originally 78's),.....you will immediately hear the distinctive style and sound of Blind Al Wilson's vocals. I don't know if this observation was ever written in the C.H. book, but it is exacting. He also mixed in notes that seemed awkward in Blues. Notes that were part of his chord voicings and can be found generally in various styles of European folk music. He tried to color the Blues with a European influence which sounded in the end.....like progressive. His lyrics reminded me of Nick Drake's. In the song...."Change My Ways" which I believe he either wrote or adapted he sings......"I wanna love some woman"....better not love myself" which is simplistic communication in lyricism, yet represents something strange in vibe that I have never figured out. In the song he sings....."I went down to the ocean"....and sat down by the sea"...."But the waves and the water would not give me peace". In a way it reminds me of the more depressing Nick Drake lyrics. It has not much to do with getting down and doing the boogie....if you know what I mean? I put emphasis on this detailed aspect of the band's music because they have never been taken seriously. He was obviously singing about himself, but his impression was dark and mysterious. You could feel his personal illness crying out through all his bizzare lyrics......"Human Condition" was another song of his which represented that. He was just a killer monster harmonica player! no doubt.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 11:00
Human condition is a great song...Eh you could write a blog about Al....Afriend of mine did the Fito's book french translation and gave me the book..... What a story....For me the real Canned Heat is with Al Wilson...His songs, his voice..unforgetable
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 11:10
Living The Blues is a bloated, eccentric, long-winded (e.g., 41:00 of Refried Boogie) mess. Which is why it gets my vote. Great album. Interesting side note: Henry Vestine was an original member of FZ's Mothers of Invention, pre-Freak Out days.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 11:20
I realy love Vestine guitar chorus on One kind favor
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 14:29
I keep going off thread and it's because I hardly ever see a thread on Canned Heat. My ultimate dream was to have a concert of Canned Heat from the late 60's where Blind Owl Wilson plays harmonica on more than 2 songs. Just like he did all through the studio albums. I mean....there must have been a performance like that? On Canned Heat live in 1970 he plays great harp on....a jazzy funky rendition of "On the Road Again" where "The Bear" takes the lead vocal. Wilson was very depressed and tired during this performance. I would like to hear a live performance of him playing harp back during their prime days. The kind of live performance that Mike Bloomfield witnessed.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 14:39
Same as you....You know when i was teen, here in France in the late sixties those two Canned Heat singles were pure gems for us ....You can't imagine how many times
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 14:45
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 30 2011 at 18:53
Oh you know Ange and Pulsar? Im proud about it Stlll don't know the third band...is it a Zeul band with such a name , gonna check it out and if i can help you .......
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 02 2011 at 22:39
Hmmm...Canned Heat? Get the 2005 CD rerelease of Boogie With Canned Heat, and they've added in the Woodstock anthem "Going Up the Country". That, along with "One the Road Again", "Turpentine Moan" and "Amphetamine Annie" makes that version about as definitive as you can get with Canned Heat without getting some compilation package.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: August 03 2011 at 08:49
Any other one keen on one kind favor with Flaming Vestine on guitar?
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: August 03 2011 at 09:50
I'd would of loved to have gone through "the Bear's" record collection with him. Suppossedly he had over 10,000 pieces of vinyl. Would of needed a case of J.D. and some other "stimulants" to go through that stack of plastic.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: August 03 2011 at 10:08
cannon wrote:
I'd would of loved to have gone through "the Bear's" record collection with him. Suppossedly he had over 10,000 pieces of vinyl. Would of needed a case of J.D. and some other "stimulants" to go through that stack of plastic. |  
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: August 04 2011 at 16:13
How can such a great band being so much unknown .......
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 08:01
Long time ago came across a CD of Canned Heat's demo, which turn out to be somewhat rougher and shorter versions of what can heard on their debut album - suggesting that the debut didn't take too much studio time
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 09:02
I got a cd release with only CH instrumentals from 67 to 96...strange idea.... but it works,
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