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Topic: Burial Appreciation Thread
Posted By: jude111
Subject: Burial Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:06
I admit it, I'm obsessed with Burial's music. I know there are others here at PA who are equally big fans. Thought we could start a thread about this singularly amazing musical visionary genius. (Is that going too far? haha). I don't know how he does what he does. How do so many people from different places hear his music and have the same mental images in their heads, or experience the same profound visions of noctural urban landscapes? I know of no other music nearly this powerful. (But people get it, or they don't. Neither my wife nor my brother get why I think Burial's music is so special. They seem really mystified by it. And I'm utterly mystified how they don't hear it.)

If you're really into all things Burial, I just discovered a new release yesterday. This guy who calls himself Davwuh has remixed Burial's self-titled debut album, and gave it away for free. It was downloaded by so many people so quickly, that the site used up its maximum downloads; but if you do a search, you can find ways to download it. Like I said, he's giving it away, it's free. (I quite like it, although it's pretty ambient.) Here's some info about it, where you can listen to it:  http://davwuhvsburial.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://davwuhvsburial.bandcamp.com/  .

Speaking of remixes, my absolute favorite Burial remix is Shlohmo's remix of Shell of Light. It's on Youtube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFzFqMcpCY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFzFqMcpCY

What's your favorite album by Burial? Or favorite track?



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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:41

One thing Burial doesn't do much these days is remixes. It's a shame, because he's done some great ones. I thought I'd rank my favorites:

1. Bloc Party - Where Is Home? (Burial remix). This one's so good that it could slot right in on Untrue and be a highlight on that masterpiece. I think most (certainly not all) Burial fans would agree that this one's his best.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqptGzkt_s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqptGzkt_s

2. Massive Attack - Paradise Circus (Burial remix). This one's long, dark and really slow. And it features a beautiful coda that anticipates the much-adored Ashtray Wasp track on Kindred.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc4X_do2T3w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc4X_do2T3w

3. Jamie Woon - Wayfaring Stranger (Burial remix). Credit (or blame) Burial for turning Woon into a star, after he remixed the formerly acapella track, which increased Woon's stock exponentially. Burial also apparently had a hand in producing some tracks for Woon's debut album, including the big hit "Night Air."  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oDrrtsJgs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oDrrtsJgs

4. Blackdown - Crackle Blues (Burial remix). This one took me awhile to get into, but I've come to appreciate it. It reminds me a bit of "Prayer" from Burial's first album (they both have a kind of stark sound), but I actually prefer this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5G9Pm5YCc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5G9Pm5YCc

Those are my top 4. Burial's other remixes are Thom Yorke's And It Rained All Night and Commix's Be True.



Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:48
I really like Burial's Truant/Rough Sleeper EP, almost as much as Untrue.


Shlomo is also pretty cool.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:53
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

I really like Burial's Truant/Rough Sleeper EP, almost as much as Untrue.

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I feel the same way. Truant and Rough Sleeper both seem more emotional to me than Street Halo and Kindred (both excellent EPs), and closer to Untrue and his debut album. My favorite Youtube video of Truant is the one of an above-ground metro line going through Tokyo, with the sun setting. I just love that video. (I assume it's a fan video...). I can watch it over and over: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqcsQVU7KjA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqcsQVU7KjA

Have you heard his track Nova, with Four Tet? This one's also in that vein. Just an amazing piece that's really grown on me.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 23:07

Burial has a bunch of unreleased tracks that have been played in mixes and on radio programs, and these are highly coveted by fans. My favorite is a track commonly referred to as Lambeth. I really wish he would release it officially. It's on Youtube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtdu3mIITZg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtdu3mIITZg



Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 23:08
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Have you heard his track Nova, with Four Tet? This one's also in that vein. Just an amazing piece that's really grown on me.

That's a great track too.

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 23:20
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Have you heard his track Nova, with Four Tet? This one's also in that vein. Just an amazing piece that's really grown on me.

That's a great track too.

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Yeah, same here! Volor Flex, Desolate, Ghostek, Clubroot, Kryptic Minds, Synkro, the above-mentioned Davwuh, and several others. Even though they all have some really excellent tracks, I find them ultimately unsatisfying, much the same way that I find Genesis clones or Floyd clones ultimately unsatisfying. It may *sound* like Burial, but it doesn't move me like Burial. But I still appreciate their music, and it does fill a void, since I can never get enough of Burial's music...

I was thinking of making a Top 10 list of my favorite Burial soundalike tracks. I'd be interested in hearing anything that you recommend as well ;-)


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 23:53
Clubroot is easily my favorite future garage artist after Burial, I've listened to II - MMX about as often as Untrue. Volor Flex probably comes the closest to matching his sound, though. It's not quite the same thing, but Holy Other reminds me of Burial quite a bit.

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 09:07
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Clubroot is easily my favorite future garage artist after Burial, I've listened to II - MMX about as often as Untrue. Volor Flex probably comes the closest to matching his sound, though. It's not quite the same thing, but Holy Other reminds me of Burial quite a bit.
 

Yes, I like Holy Other too. Andy Stott's most recent work has also been compared with Burial.

I saw this quote from Clubroot just a few weeks a go; he had put it on his Facebook last year: "5 years ago today - something very special happened. It was a release that absolutely changed my life. Vivid memories of a hazy evening this time 5 years ago at Uni, immersing myself in sounds unlike anything I had heard before, and then realising that the greatest attribute you can put into your music is emotion.  Clubroot albums (and a couple of E.Ps) later - I can honestly say that it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for 'Untrue'. Kudos to Mr Bevan for this timeless piece of work."


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 12:34
Here are my favorite "Burial-esque" tracks, which fans of Burial may want to track down if they don't know of these already:

1. Volor Flex: You in Me - Volor Flex is a Russian producer whose works are acknowledged as tributes to Burial. This is his best-loved tune; he uses the same Ray J sample that Burial used for "Archangel." In the same vein as Volor Flex are tracks such as Nocow's Struggle, Kid Smpl's Low Light, Roqqert's Way Back Home, Svpreme Fiend's Prover, and Unknown's #001-004. Also in the same vein is the track Synapse by 苲 [ttnz001], although good luck in trying to track that one down.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04IWUnBj-h4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04IWUnBj-h4

2. Ghostek: Trust Me - It's not too much of a stretch to imagine this on Burial's eponymous debut. Also recommended: Feathered Skies, Stolen Generation, Easy Changes, Someone.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tugQbJSZTwI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tugQbJSZTwI

3. Desolate: Endurance - When Invisible Insurrection came out, the internet was abuzz with rumors that it was really Burial's new album, under a different name. So well-known German DJ and producer Sven Weisemann quickly outed himself before it got out of hand. In retrospect it's easy to see that this isn't Burial, but rather a close approximation. Endurance seems to be clearly derived from Burial's Where Is Home? He followed this up with another excellent album, Celestial Light Beings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEb92uHhdPI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEb92uHhdPI

4. Kryptic Minds: Stepping Stone - More cavernous than Burial, Kryptic Minds are one of the more admired EDM artists here, and respected among the usually contentious and highly-protective dubstep artists and fans. (Let's face it, groups perceived to be copycats don't get a lot of respect generally).  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojApZEFg7M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojApZEFg7M

5. Clubroot: Low Pressure Zone - I confess I know next to nothing about Clubroot, other than that I quite like his albums. Also recommended: High Strung. Both tracks are from his first self-titled album, which is his most Burialesque. However, his next album, II MMX, is probably the better album. (I haven't heard his 3rd album.)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYi56l0r0co" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYi56l0r0co

6. Bonecold: Rekca - Both this one and Delete's Natasha below are nicely atmospheric, Burialesque ambient tracks. There are admittedly a lot of these around, but these two are better than most.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ll0rF5BYE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ll0rF5BYE

7. Delete: Natashahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTEY8kkL68" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTEY8kkL68

8. Synkro & Faib: Inhale - Synkro was perhaps the first artist to be compared to/accused of being a clone of Burial, although compared to those above,  he's the least Burial-like. He does however like to use samples from r&b artists, the same as Burial. There's no denying he has some excellent and rather catchy tracks, like Closer, Tell Me, Everybody Knows, and Angels.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6KBLWC5J8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6KBLWC5J8

9. Late: Losing You - Late is a Finnish produer who garnered a lot of comparisons to Burial with this track and Dreams Are.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV9Lrt8ZVaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV9Lrt8ZVaY

10. Andy Stott: Numb - Is Andy Stott "Burialesqe"? You be the judge. Last year's album Luxury Problems got all kinds of ecstatic reviews, and was frequently compared favorably to Burial and Massive Attack. His 2 EPs from the previous year, Passed Me By and We Stay Together, are also highly recommended. At any rate, he's no Burial copycat, his stuff's more original than that.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOsBk-V9uA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOsBk-V9uA

11. The Holy Other: Touch - The Holy Other combines Burialesque ambiance with an almost neo-New Wave sound. The Tri Angle label has leftfield groups who have been compared to Burial in various ways, including Balam Acab (strangely compelling chipmunk voices in alluring underwater settings) and How to Dress Well (lo-fi white r&b croons).  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLmWqKMQIg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLmWqKMQIg

12. The Caretaker: All You Are Going to Want To Do Is Get Back There - What this has in common with Burial is the white noise and the strong sense of nostalgia, collective memory and ghosts - or what's commonly referred to as "hauntology," a new genre in which Burial, the Caretaker and Basinski (see below) are considered to be at the top of the class. This gains added spookiness when you consider that the Caretaker is named after Stephen King's The Shining, and specifically the ghostly caretaker in the ballroom, where the dance never ends...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtfTwqBfxgo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtfTwqBfxgo

- and -

12. William Basinski: Disintegration Loop 1.1 - Great stuff, but you need a lot of patience, since each loop is pretty long. This one's over an hour long. But you may not want it to end. It carries with it the extra significance that Basinski was on a rooftop in Manhattan arranging this on 11 September 2001 when two airplanes struck the Twin Towers. Reminds me a bit of Burial's Forgive, arguably his finest ambient piece.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOr8TlnqsY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOr8TlnqsY

And I've only just discovered Davwuh (see my first post). I haven't fully digested his Hong Kong album, but I'm quite liking it, and it's Burialesque without a doubt:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qShljAjSLF8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qShljAjSLF8

Finally, special mention to Zomby's Natalia's Song, which he went on record as saying he made as a tribute to Burial, and to play especially for Burial to hear. By the way, Burial has returned the favor by featuring this song in his own special mix that he did for Mary Ann Hobbs.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyxPeuBf0M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyxPeuBf0M



Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 12:37
His Street Halo/Kindred EP is by far my favorite work of his. 




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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 12:47
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

His Street Halo/Kindred EP is by far my favorite work of his. 



I know those 2 EPs were later released as a single CD, but I have a hard time considering them to be compatible as one album. Even the production work of the two seems very different. On the other hand, I see Truant/Rough Sleeper as a continuation of Kindred, and would find that pairing more justifiable... But nitpicking aside, all 3 EPs are great! Big smile


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 19:50
Burial is amazing. Some of the most emotional sounding electronic music you'll find. Kindred is my favourite release of his, followed by Truant/Rough Sleeper and then Untrue.


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 23:08
I really enjoy Burial's music. I'm not much of a dub guy, though I like a bit of James Blake, but this guy's seriously putting some wonderful innovation into the genre. I've only got Untrue, but yeah, it's a great album.


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 23:11

I have a question. First a preamble: I remember reading an interview with either Burial or Kode9, in which basically it was said that Burial makes these long mixes, Kode9 listens to them and then suggests which parts should be edited into shorter songs. Apparently that was the methodology for making Burial and perhaps Untrue as well.

These days, Burial's releasing much longer tracks. It started with the Massive Attack EP, then continued with Kindred and now Truant/Rough Sleeper. Perhaps Kode9's no longer involved in what Burial releases...

My question is: Do you wish those tracks were edited down into shorter pieces? For example, both Truant and Rough Sleeper are "songs" that last, oh, I would guess 6 to 8 minutes. But then there's another 4 or 5 minutes of... something else. (Truant has this great bit at the end where the drums keep changing, like some kind of parade going by.) Do you wish these pieces at the end were edited out, or separated from the main track, given another title, or developed into another track? Or is it perfect the way it is? 

Personally, I'm quite torn. I think, though, that I prefer those ambient pieces at the end to be separated from the main track.

One more criticism/question: Do you think Burial's using way too much crackle sound on the Massive Attack, Kindred and Truant EPs? With his first two albums, its use was very subtle and unobtrusive. With his latest releases it's become quite pronounced. I get that it's supposed to mimic the pirate radio sound, the signal fading in and out...




Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 23:17
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

I really enjoy Burial's music. I'm not much of a dub guy, though I like a bit of James Blake, but this guy's seriously putting some wonderful innovation into the genre. I've only got Untrue, but yeah, it's a great album.

I liked James Blake's EPs before his first album the most. He has a new album coming out soon, I think (or has it already been released?). I heard a couple of new tracks and I quite like them.


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:31
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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

My question is: Do you wish those tracks were edited down into shorter pieces? For example, both Truant and Rough Sleeper are "songs" that last, oh, I would guess 6 to 8 minutes. But then there's another 4 or 5 minutes of... something else. (Truant has this great bit at the end where the drums keep changing, like some kind of parade going by.) Do you wish these pieces at the end were edited out, or separated from the main track, given another title, or developed into another track? Or is it perfect the way it is? 

Personally, I'm quite torn. I think, though, that I prefer those ambient pieces at the end to be separated from the main track.

One more criticism/question: Do you think Burial's using way too much crackle sound on the Massive Attack, Kindred and Truant EPs? With his first two albums, its use was very subtle and unobtrusive. With his latest releases it's become quite pronounced. I get that it's supposed to mimic the pirate radio sound, the signal fading in and out...

I'd never heard the Kode9 thing before, but the general shift towards longer songs is good IMO. I like that the Massive Attack EP had lots of ambient parts, I hope he makes an entirely ambient album some day. The Truant/Rough Sleeper EP seemed to be two long tracks with each containing a handful of somewhat related songs/ideas. I'm not sure how I'd like it if all his new music is like that, but I thought it was an interesting idea for that particular EP.

I hadn't thought of the crackle really, I guess I'd have to listen again.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:43
I like his longer songs. They're his best. Which is why those two EPs are my favourite.

Also, I like the crackle. Especially in Ashtray Wasp. It's just amazing there.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 14:56

Oh no, not another list! Wink Burial's Top 5 Non-Album Tracks:


1. Burial: Fostercare (2009) - Released on Kode9's label compilation, 5 Years of Hyperdub, this track is a real grower. Repeated listening reveals a melody you might not get out of your head, and a haunting sparseness to the song that's quite unusual. Upon the first few listenings you would be forgiven for thinking the song is too "empty." Later however it's clear that this is what makes the song so special. An essential Burial track. By the way, the entire 2-disc compilation is none too shabby either, and a must-own for fans of dubstep.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTs7KXqZRmA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTs7KXqZRmA

2. Burial: South London Boroughs (2005) - Before there was the 2006 album Burial, there was the EP South London Boroughs. This is as important a track as anything on his eponymous album. It also contains another song that didn't make the album, "Night Train" (not to be confused with the album track "Night Bus").  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLIb4RSFK00" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLIb4RSFK00

3. Burial & Four Tet: Nova (2012) - This was released as a single on Four Tet's label, Text Records. It's the third collaboration with Four Tet that's been released - and probably the best. Sound-wise, this track could slot right in on Burial's Street Halo, and would've made a perfect closer to that EP. I hear the same sounds other reviewers did: the sound of the sun rising on Burial's nocturnal soundscape.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4dC925as90" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4dC925as90

4. Burial vs El-B: Prophecy (2010) - Of all of Burial's collaborations, this might be my favorite. It's found on a compilation titled Nu Levels, put together by garage favorites El-B and J Da Flex. Back when people were speculating about Burial's identity, many were sure he was El-B. After he outed himself, Burial repeatedly pointed to El-B as a major influence on his sound (that woodblock drum sound), so it was only natural that the two hooked up.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2drCTGU9WJs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2drCTGU9WJs

5. Burial: Shutta (2006) - The track Distant Lights from Burial was released as a single, and contains two B-sides, Shutta and Exit Woundz, as well as Kode9's remix of Distant Lights. Exit Woundz is sparse and creepy (I love it!), while Shutta is generally highly rated by Burial enthusiasts. To my ears it sounds like a missing link between Burial and Untrue. The instrumental music makes it sound like it's from the former album, while the female vocal places it as a precursor to Untrue.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfwWSXmw0s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfwWSXmw0s

Special Mention: Kode9's Untrue Mix (2007) - Kode9 debuted Burial's album for Mary Anne Hobbs's radio show on Radio 1 in October 2007. This was very special, because Kode9's sound collage includes several excerpts of tracks that didn't make the album, including Feral Witchchild, Archeron, Stairwell, Afterglow, Sinkheart, Speed Ball2, Cold Planet, and Stay. (In fact, Stairwell/Feral Witchchild was slated by Hyperdub to be released in February 2008, until Burial withdrew the release.) For years this was a heavily-bootlegged show, until last month when Kode9 himself made the mix available for free downloads at his Soundcloud site. Now if only Burial would release the full versions of these tracks... :  http://soundcloud.com/kodenine/kode9-burial-mix-radio-1-2007" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/kodenine/kode9-burial-mix-radio-1-2007


Other non-album tracks: Burial's Versus (2006) is an exclusive track for Mary Anne Dobbs's compilation, Warrior Dubz (Planet Mu); Unite (2007) is found on the compilation Box of Dub (Soul Jazz Records); Breakage's Vial (feat. Burial) is found on his album Foundation (2010); Dusk + Blackdown + 's High Road (2012) was released as a single, the mystery collaborator obviously being Burial; Burial & Goldie: upcoming. Goldie's been promising a collab with Burial for awhile now; most recently, he said it would be on his next album, coming this year.



Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 15:00
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

His Street Halo/Kindred EP is by far my favorite work of his. 



I know those 2 EPs were later released as a single CD, but I have a hard time considering them to be compatible as one album. Even the production work of the two seems very different. On the other hand, I see Truant/Rough Sleeper as a continuation of Kindred, and would find that pairing more justifiable... But nitpicking aside, all 3 EPs are great! Big smile

But NYC and Street Dog are like :O

I still need to hear his new one..


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 17:36
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

 I hope he makes an entirely ambient album some day. 

I know what you mean. He's made some phenomenal ambient pieces, particularly from his first two albums: Night Bus, Forgive, Endorphin, In McDonalds, Dog Shelter and UK. In fact, Forgive features a sample of Brian Eno's An Ending (Ascent), so clearly Burial's a fan of at least some ambient music.

Over the years, I tried to think of what one major thing separates Burial from every other EDM artist, whether it's dubstep musicians or anything else. And what I've come up with is this: his rhythms never lock into a groove. Whereas every other EDM artist that I know pretty much puts their percussion sounds on a loop, with Burial it's always changing, always restless. I've paid close attention to his drum sounds, and I'm amazed that he never seems to loop it. He must spend a great amount of time working every bar of every piece.

In that respect, then, I see his music as already being ambient in some sense. I know he came out of dubstep and was influenced by garage, but I see his music as transcending those genres and appealing to people with interests in neither.


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 17:46
Like I said earlier, I also find Burial puts a lot more emotion into each tune than others in his genre. In fact, it almost depresses me. It's a real feat to put a true sense of emotion in a genre often frowned upon for being cold, sterile, and lifeless.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 18:02
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Like I said earlier, I also find Burial puts a lot more emotion into each tune than others in his genre. In fact, it almost depresses me. It's a real feat to put a true sense of emotion in a genre often frowned upon for being cold, sterile, and lifeless.

Yes, exactly. If I connect what you said and think about that in terms of what I wrote concerning his percussions, perhaps that's part and parcel - his drums are rarely machine-like, they have a warmth, they're often coated in a kind of fog and sound of rain/crackle, and are woozy and "off," tripping over each other, poly-rhythmic at times, never mechanical. A few other electronic artists might have emotion in their tune (Vangelis, perhaps? in Blade Runner, at any rate), but who has been able to do it working within the electronic dance genre?

On the other hand, I've grown to really like the cold and sterile sound of some German techno; a sound i associate with the Kompakt label. There can be a real beauty in that. (For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR2tKN6wkxM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR2tKN6wkxM )


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 21:12
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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

 I hope he makes an entirely ambient album some day. 

I know what you mean. He's made some phenomenal ambient pieces, particularly from his first two albums: Night Bus, Forgive, Endorphin, In McDonalds, Dog Shelter and UK. In fact, Forgive features a sample of Brian Eno's An Ending (Ascent), so clearly Burial's a fan of at least some ambient music.

Over the years, I tried to think of what one major thing separates Burial from every other EDM artist, whether it's dubstep musicians or anything else. And what I've come up with is this: his rhythms never lock into a groove. Whereas every other EDM artist that I know pretty much puts their percussion sounds on a loop, with Burial it's always changing, always restless. I've paid close attention to his drum sounds, and I'm amazed that he never seems to loop it. He must spend a great amount of time working every bar of every piece.

In that respect, then, I see his music as already being ambient in some sense. I know he came out of dubstep and was influenced by garage, but I see his music as transcending those genres and appealing to people with interests in neither.

From what I've read, he manually does everything by hand in SoundForge to give the music a more human quality.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 21:27
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:


From what I've read, he manually does everything by hand in SoundForge to give the music a more human quality.

Yes. Although I'm not quite sure what SoundForge is LOL I'm technologically-challenged. I wish I could make music on my computer, but computers and I just don't get along... That the airplanes I've ridden in haven't fallen out of the sky proves the existence of God, because machines just go haywire around me generally... 

A-hem. Anyway. Yes, SoundForge. Apparently most people found it amazing, and many doubted it at the time. I wonder if that's still how he does it? Given his friendship with Four Tet and a few other producers, I've wondered if he hasn't become more adept at other ways of making music (although I'm ignorant about what those may be)... The last interview he gave was around 2007 I think... He's really become more of a ghost now that we know his real name (or do we?) than before...


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 22:11

If anyone's interested, below are all the interviews of Burial that I know about. Not a lot of them, and he stopped doing interviews after late 2007, it seems...

1. Blackdown Interview, December 21, 2005  http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2005/12/blackdown-soundboy-end-of-year-review_21.html" rel="nofollow - http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2005/12/blackdown-soundboy-end-of-year-review_21.html

2. Blackdown Interview, March 21, 2006  http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/soundboy-burial.html" rel="nofollow - http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/soundboy-burial.html

3. The Guardian, 25 October 2007  http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/oct/26/urban" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/oct/26/urban

4. Kode9 Interview, November 2007  http://hyperdubrecords.blogspot.com/2007/10/burial-untrue-november-2007.html" rel="nofollow - http://hyperdubrecords.blogspot.com/2007/10/burial-untrue-november-2007.html

5. Cyclic Defrost Interview, November 24, 2007  http://www.cyclicdefrost.com/blog/2007/11/burial-interview-by-emmy-hennings/" rel="nofollow - http://www.cyclicdefrost.com/blog/2007/11/burial-interview-by-emmy-hennings/

6. Fact Magazine Interview, 2007  http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/01/interview-burial/" rel="nofollow - http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/01/interview-burial/

7. Clash Music Interview, Late 2007  http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/untrue-burial" rel="nofollow - http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/untrue-burial

8. The Wire, December (?) 2007  http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript" rel="nofollow - http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/burial_unedited-transcript

9. In August 2008, he put a note out on his MySpace, revealing his name.  http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/burial-reveals-his-identity-168375" rel="nofollow - http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/burial-reveals-his-identity-168375

10. Also, in March 2009, The Wire interviewed El-B. At the end of the interview, they printed something Burial wrote on El-B (was it an email, or something he wrote in the press release for the new El-B comp that was coming out? I'm not sure...). Burial's note begins at the bottom, with the sentence, "The first time I heard El-B's garage tunes was in the late 90s."  http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/el-b-unedited-transcript" rel="nofollow - http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/el-b-unedited-transcript

On his MySpace page, he wrote: "I'm keeping my head down and just going to finish my next album, there's going to be a 12" maybe in the next few weeks too with 4 tunes. Hope u like it, I'll try put a tune up later." Sadly, this never happened; those 4 songs never came out, he didn't put out a new tune right after this, and there's never been another album. I think the media frenzy about his identity must have shook him up and drove him away for a few years.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 11:20

Lately I've been listening to jungle/d&b. In some of the interviews above, Burial mentions some of his favorite tracks, and the songs that influenced him. Some brilliant stuff there, including:

Rufige Cru's Beachdrifta. Burial said of this song, "I listen to that track every day. Nothing can ever take anything away from it."  Listen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IweqjAlQfSA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IweqjAlQfSA

Luke Slater's Love. Burial: "I love the sound of tunes that feel like they’re sort of lost. There are certain tunes like ‘Love’ by Luke Slater, Steve Gurley’s tunes, ‘Let Go’ by Teebee, ‘Ras 78′ by Digital… they just have a feeling trapped in them."  Listen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcuUn2zka3w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcuUn2zka3w

Photek's The Hidden Camera. "I love those drums just as much as I love 'Hidden Camera.' He’s obviously a badman: his sound is a bit slicked out, but I still love it."  Listen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A1M4S0IZnQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A1M4S0IZnQ

Dillinja's Deadly Deep Subs. Burial: "People talk about making ‘dark’ tunes, but they’re not properly dark, they’re just trainee male rage music. When you hear something properly dark, like Dillinja’s ‘Deadly Deep Subs’ or ‘Mortex’ by Tech Itch…they’re dark, they’re fierce tunes, they don’t fake it; they stay true…Some of the darkest tunes aren’t just dark sounds, sometimes vocals and warm sounds can be hypnotic and executed in a cold way…like they got shark eyes looking at you. If you feel like the person that made that tune was moody, had a piece of glass in their head or was bad-minded, then that’s dark and I love that feeling [laughs]."  Listen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JX-C6RjWlk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JX-C6RjWlk

D'Cruze's Lonely and Foul Play's Being with You Remix. Burial: "All my favourite tunes ever - 'Being With You remix' by Foul Play and 'Lonely' by D’Cruze – are just rolling drums, no bullsh*t and just killer vocal samples. You combine that with circling stuff, it’s an ambient thing, the opposite of riffage."  Listen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Eu3GZQsyE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Eu3GZQsyE   and   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tye5M9W1Ce0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tye5M9W1Ce0




Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 11:57
I only have Untrue, but man is that a killer album. I think I'll be exploring his other stuff sometime soon


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 12:03

There are persistent rumors that the bloke in the hoodie close to Jame Blake djing at the Boiler Room is none other than Burial himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8idi7PcsbU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8idi7PcsbU



Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 27 2013 at 09:55
Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

I only have Untrue, but man is that a killer album. I think I'll be exploring his other stuff sometime soon


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: July 01 2013 at 16:52

The general concensus is that Burial is too good to be remixed. I have to disagree, though. There's been some excellent remixes, many of which are very popular on Youtube. Below are my favorite remixes and mash-ups (which comprise the last 5 on the list below). If you're a fan of Burial, you should appreciate these:

Burial - Shell Of Light (Shlohmo Remix) - My favorite of all Burial remixes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFzFqMcpCY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFzFqMcpCY

Burial - Dog Shelter (Essay's Old Edit) - My second favorite of all burial remixes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fMo5_d2sjU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fMo5_d2sjU

Burial - Archangel (The Landwhale Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r3PtP9xRJU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r3PtP9xRJU

Burial - Homeless (Sorrow Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oqen4XoHZ0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oqen4XoHZ0

Burial - Feral Witchchild (Vinyl Shotz Dubstep Remix) - Feral Witchchild was left off of Untrue, but Kode9 played it when he debuted a mix of Untrue (which can be found on Youtube as well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YhfARAnr0A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YhfARAnr0A

Burial - Loner (Exist Strategy Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf9J2JjFhiA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf9J2JjFhiA

Burial - Etched Headplate (Eit B Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I0npnuCqa0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I0npnuCqa0

Burial - Shell of Light (Burial Cover Beat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y945q2HPjbs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y945q2HPjbs

Burial - Ghost Hardware (IDrM Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKmdbMY0uhQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKmdbMY0uhQ

Burial - Endorphin (Irrelevant Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBSnQOLR0II" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBSnQOLR0II

Flexie vs Burial - Dog Shelter (Flexie Stepper Rework)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drr0B1BdBgQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drr0B1BdBgQ

Fifi Rong - Burial 'Unite' & The Cure 'Friday I'm in Love' mashup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGr7iL6zvv0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGr7iL6zvv0

Kryptic minds vs. Burial - Distant dawn vs. Prayer (VS™)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-akWbI2to" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-akWbI2to

Boards Of Canada ft. Burial REMIX ('kaini industries' + 'spaceape')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ouJZWLP9o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ouJZWLP9o

Nate Dogg Remix ft Burial, Four Tet and Thom yorke - I Got Ego

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhuAJmJAiO4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhuAJmJAiO4

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UPDATE: Kode9 has tweeted: "Bored of all 4500 unsolicited burial remixes. they are all sh*t. every single one.” I respectfully disagree LOL [As much as I like Kode9, my *least* favorite Burial remix is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjWVTRV7Uws" rel="nofollow - Kode9's remix of Distant Lights .]


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 06:54

It's winter again, which must mean: New Burial's bound to appear! Clap

1. Four Tet hosted an 8-hour marathon on Rinse FM last week, during which he debuted an unreleased Burial collaboration, which is now on Youtube: http://pitchfork.com/news/52566-listen-four-tet-shares-an-unreleased-burial-collaboration/" rel="nofollow - http://pitchfork.com/news/52566-listen-four-tet-shares-an-unreleased-burial-collaboration/

2. Four Tet has a new album out, entitled Beautiful Rewind. It's quite a departure from his earlier work, and while it may not (or may) be a masterpiece, there's several amazing tracks, including Buchla, Aerial (my favorite), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWegWvt9o-E" rel="nofollow - Parallel Jalebi , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbrYJrDKLtc" rel="nofollow - Kool FM , and most importantly for our purposes, the track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk" rel="nofollow - Gong , which sounds to my ears like a definite Burial collaboration. So far there's no word whether Burial's on this track or not, but I've searched the internet and I'm definitely not the only person out there who hears Burial in this track. It can be heard here on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk

Burial's been known to seek anonymity in his collaborations. Examples include the track by "Dusk + Blackdown + ," called http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kupjk29jFnM" rel="nofollow - High Road (The mystery guest is widely known to be Burial.) There's also a suspicion that Burial worked with Kryptic Minds on their first dubstep CD, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OFdBSHa_fA&list=PLUnOmEWA80Kgg9NEtqlxWLCVZuj3yhaGb" rel="nofollow - One of Us . (In an interview at the time, the Kryptic Minds duo talked about working closely with Burial. The interview can be found here: http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/05/kryptic-minds-and-loefah.html" rel="nofollow - http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/05/kryptic-minds-and-loefah.html )

So what do you think, is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk" rel="nofollow - Gong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiv2ZR4TZk" rel="nofollow - a Burial collab?

[While I'm on the subject, some of my favorite Four Tet tracks that don't include Burial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-VlecpEasU" rel="nofollow - Smile Around the Face , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urOUJMTZdD8" rel="nofollow - Love Cry , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dPYRhSb4c" rel="nofollow - Hands , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb3Q1glcthE" rel="nofollow - Pyramid .]


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 01 2013 at 21:20

Just hit the news within the hour: New Burial EP to arrive Dec. 16, a 3-track EP totaling 28 minutes. Biggest music news of the year, for me at any rate :-)

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=21979" rel="nofollow - http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=21979
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/12/01/248106399/new-burial-ep-arrives-december-16" rel="nofollow - http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/12/01/248106399/new-burial-ep-arrives-december-16
http://pitchfork.com/news/53180-new-burial-ep-announced/" rel="nofollow - http://pitchfork.com/news/53180-new-burial-ep-announced/



Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 01 2013 at 23:57
oh god yes oh god yes OH GOD YESSSSSSSS

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 02 2013 at 08:19
Quite happy, i would complain about not releasing another LP, but then we would wait 2 years for just as much material so - i'm good. :D

Curious to see what he'll do here.


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 02 2013 at 10:27
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Quite happy, i would complain about not releasing another LP, but then we would wait 2 years for just as much material so - i'm good. :D

Curious to see what he'll do here.


I only hope he has a treasure trove of material that he's not released, that will one day see the light of day. (There are a bunch of tracks that received airplay but have not been released; it's also known that he has collaborated with many artists, but has not allowed that material to be released.) In an old interview, he mentioned making an album after his first one, but discarding it because he thought it was too depressing, and quickly making Untrue and releasing that instead. There was a 2 track EP that was slated for release in 2008 (Hyperdub's website had a date of release for it: Feral Witchchild/Stairwell, I believe, which have turned up in pirated excerpts), but Burial changed his mind.

The thing that gets me is how quicly Untrue was made, while everything else he's made seems to have taken quite some time to put together. I know we don't like it when artists repeat themselves, and usually I agree, but in this case, Burial could've kept making Untrue-type albums and I'd be deleriously giddy. Still, I love everything he's done.



Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 02 2013 at 11:06
I read about his new EP on reddit earlier and I'm already anxious to have a new AOTY.


Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 02 2013 at 14:16
Idk, I probably prefer his EPs to his LPs. I mean, s/t and Untrue are amazing, but Kindred and Truant/Rough Sleeper (haven't listened to others) are something else.

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 15:16
So new Burial was different, but still amazing.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 16:22

I quite like this EP. Been listening to it non-stop. It's really brilliant, and there's more going on here narrative-wise than previous EPs.


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:18
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


I quite like this EP. Been listening to it non-stop. It's really brilliant, and there's more going on here narrative-wise than previous EPs.

Ture, I really like how the samples are used in a thematic/narrative way.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:23
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


I quite like this EP. Been listening to it non-stop. It's really brilliant, and there's more going on here narrative-wise than previous EPs.

Ture, I really like how the samples are used in a thematic/narrative way.

There's quite a lot of buzz about this, with people wondering whether Burial is "doing a Frank Ocean" and coming out of the closet.

Basically, there's a quote in the first song saying, "It's about sexuality," and, "This is who I am." The first two songs end with a voice saying, "Come down to us, come down to us," pointing us to the last song, whose title of course is: "Come Down to Us." That song ends the EP with a long quote from transgender film director Lana Wachowski (The Matrix, V for Vendetta).   

The quote as it appears on the EP: "Without examples, without models, I began to believe voices in my head - that I was a freak, that I am broken, that there is something wrong with me, that I will never be lovable... Years later I find the courage to admit that I am transgender and this doesn’t mean that I am unlovable... So that this world that we imagine in this room might be used to gain access to other rooms, to other worlds previously unimaginable." 

My take: I don't know that Burial is "coming out." I do think however that Burial's come out strongly in support of gay and transgender rights and an end to bigotry - and any and all who feel "lost," "truant," who are "sleeping rough," "homeless." Lana Wachowski's speech, the part about "this world that we imagine... might be used to gain access to other rooms, to other worlds previously unimaginable," is what this EP is about. "Come on in, out of the cold."


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:28

I got into an online discussion with a couple of people who were lamenting Burial "suddenly becoming political and personal." I argued:

Well, that's what nails this release for me. Perhaps Burial is Banksy after all. (Not really. But in a way...) This is a year when transgender Chelsea Manning was sentenced to life in prison for the "crime" of exposing US war crimes.

Transgender Lana Wachowski, who is quoted at length by Burial at the end of this EP, wrote and directed The Matrix and V for Vendetta. The Guy Fawkes masks that became the symbol for Anonymous (hacking group) and Occupy Wall Street come from Wachowski's V for Vendetta, while The Matrix's theme of a pervasive and ubiquitous surveillance grid controlled by the Feds (personified by Agent Smith) has been shown to be much closer to reality than we ever knew, by Edward Snowden's massive whistleblowing of the NSA via journalist Glenn Greenwald (who is also gay, and whose husband was detained as a terrorist by the UK, because he was working for the Guardian newspaper). 

For me, Burial's album manages to reference all of this, through the build-up to the Wachowski denouement. Not so much overtly, but it's a part of the reality of the last year - or 6 months, actually, when Snowden's revelations first broke, Chelsea Manning was sentenced to life in prison soon after, Wikileaks' Julian Assange remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy, and then last month, Anonymous hacktivist Jeremy Hammond was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

There's also the way in which Burial manipulates voices to morph and oscillate between male and female genders. That's a link between Untrue and Rival Dealer, this continued exploration of sexuality and gender. Then there's the pirate radio theme that runs throughout Burial's work, including this one. That's big-time political: an underground community radio for the people, not beholden to commercial interests or control by the State. To me, Burial's music has always been deeply political...


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:38
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


I quite like this EP. Been listening to it non-stop. It's really brilliant, and there's more going on here narrative-wise than previous EPs.

Ture, I really like how the samples are used in a thematic/narrative way.

There's quite a lot of buzz about this, with people wondering whether Burial is doing a "Frank Ocean" and coming out of the closet.

Basically, there's a quote in the first song saying, "It's about sexuality," and, "This is who I am." The first two songs end with a voice saying, "Come down to us, come down to us," pointing us to the last song, whose title of course is: "Come Down to Us." The EP ends with a long quote from transgender film director Lana Wachowski (The Matrix, V for Vendetta).   

The quote as it appears on the EP: "Without examples, without models, I began to believe voices in my head - that I was a freak, that I am broken, that there is something wrong with me, that I will never be lovable... Years later I find the courage to admit that I am transgender and this doesn’t mean that I am unlovable... So that this world that we imagine in this room might be used to gain access to other rooms, to other worlds previously unimaginable." 

My take: I don't know that Burial is "coming out." I do think however that Burial's come out strongly in support of gay and transgender rights and an end to bigotry - and any and all who feel "lost," "truant," who are "sleeping rough," "homeless." Lana Wachowski's speech, the part about "this world that we imagine... might be used to gain access to other rooms, to other worlds previously unimaginable," is what this EP is about. "Come on in, out of the cold."

It's nothing like he's done before, the music/mood on Rival Dealer feels completely new. The theme of the samples is very deliberate so it's hard to ignore. I doubt it's a coming out of the closet kind of thing as well, but he must have some reason to have done it. I hope he is less mysterious than usual and sheds some light on it eventually.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:49
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

 
It's nothing like he's done before, the music/mood on Rival Dealer feels completely new. The theme of the samples is very deliberate so it's hard to ignore. I doubt it's a coming out of the closet kind of thing as well, but he must have some reason to have done it. I hope he is less mysterious than usual and sheds some light on it eventually.

I have to say, I'm loving this EP; it exceeded my expectations, even though I'm obviously a bit obsessed by Burial's music, haha.

Definitely has a different feel from the previous EPs, and a strong identity of its own. I did notice that a sample from "Loner" ("There's something out there") is reprised here. It helps give a nice continuity from the Kindred EP, even if they sound so different.


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 22:54
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

 
It's nothing like he's done before, the music/mood on Rival Dealer feels completely new. The theme of the samples is very deliberate so it's hard to ignore. I doubt it's a coming out of the closet kind of thing as well, but he must have some reason to have done it. I hope he is less mysterious than usual and sheds some light on it eventually.

I have to say, I'm loving this EP; it exceeded my expectations, even though I'm obviously a bit obsessed by Burial's music, haha.

Definitely has a different feel from the previous EPs, and a strong identity of its own. I did notice that a sample from "Loner" ("There's something out there") is reprised here. It helps give a nice continuity from the Kindred EP, even if they sound so different.

I noticed that too. I also noticed that it has a similar structure to the Truant/Rough Sleeper EP on the first and last tracks, where the music fades or changes to something that sounds like it could be its own song. I like that he made music that is happy/uplifting but somehow still sad.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 11 2013 at 23:01
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

 
I noticed that too. I also noticed that it has a similar structure to the Truant/Rough Sleeper EP on the first and last tracks, where the music fades or changes to something that sounds like it could be its own song. I like that he made music that is happy/uplifting but somehow still sad.

Maybe this is going too far, but the ending of the first track reminds me of The Orb's Little Fluffy Clouds - the way the woman talks about how at night she watches "the stars and the constellations... And then one night, I saw something come down to us, come down to us..."

That last track is the one that really gets to me. Massive song, and so uplifting too.

UPDATE: It turns out, the 2nd track on the Rival Dealer EP, "Hiders," has a small sample of Hendrix's 1983, A Merman I Should Be. ( http://www.whosampled.com/sample/242119/Burial-Hiders-Jimi-Hendrix-1983...-A-Merman-I-Should-Turn-to-Be/" rel="nofollow - http://www.whosampled.com/sample/242119/Burial-Hiders-Jimi-Hendrix-1983...-A-Merman-I-Should-Turn-to-Be/ )

UPDATE 2: On her BBC Radio 6 program Mary Anne Hobbs read the complete text message that Burial sent to her:

"I put my heart into the new EP, I hope someone likes it. I wanted the tunes to be anti-bullying tunes that could maybe help someone to believe in themselves, to not be afraid, and to not give up, and to know that someone out there cares, and is looking out for them. So, it's like an angel spell to protect them against the unkind people and the dark times and the self-doubts."

You can listen to it here, it begins at around the 50-minute mark: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03lnkby" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03lnkby

UPDATE 3: I don't know if this article is taking the piss, but it claims that Burial sent a Tweet which he then deleted, tweeting, "My Rival Dealer release is probably my worst, but I know you guys will love it."

What's weird about this article though is that this author has plagiarized my very own writing on this EP, which I posted at Fact Mag and Dubstepforum.com (which I've just about given up on; judging by the monosyllabic gruntings that pass for most posts there, I suspect I'm writing to 16 year olds).

http://stoneyroads.com/burial-my-rival-dealer-release-is-probably-my-worst/" rel="nofollow - http://stoneyroads.com/burial-my-rival-dealer-release-is-probably-my-worst/

UPDATE 4: Just noticed a really cool sound embedded in this EP: the sound of a spray paint can being shaken, and then followed by one of Burial's characteristic spraying of white noise. It's like Burial's inviting us to see this EP as a kind of graffiti, with him painting sounds and samples and other noise over the surface of the work... 


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 17 2013 at 22:26
UPDATE 4: Just noticed a really cool sound embedded in this EP: the sound of a spray paint can being shaken, and then followed by one of Burial's characteristic spraying of white noise/static. It happens several times. It's like Burial's inviting us to see this EP as a work of graffiti, with him painting sounds and samples and other noise over the surface of the work... 


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 14:53

A Four Tet interview came out today. He talks at length about Burial, and the frustration of being the "middle-man":

http://www.groove.de/2014/01/07/four-tet-interview-english/" rel="nofollow - http://www.groove.de/2014/01/07/four-tet-interview-english/


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 31 2014 at 15:04
Burial news today: He posted a picture of himself, and wrote a message at the Hyperdub website.

Here's an article about it: http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/01/this-is-burial/" rel="nofollow - http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/01/this-is-burial/

And here's the page at Hyperdub: http://www.hyperdub.net/burial/" rel="nofollow - http://www.hyperdub.net/burial/

There's also a few more pics of Burial, but not many people seem to realize it: http://cn.last.fm/music/Burial/+images?page=1" rel="nofollow - http://cn.last.fm/music/Burial/+images?page=1



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