Never Mind The 27 Club
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Topic: Never Mind The 27 Club
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: Never Mind The 27 Club
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 13:58
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Which musicians died at the age of 26 or 28? The so-called "27 Club" is a pile of poo, let's prove it by listing musicians that died at ages other than 27 (and let's list them by age at death) ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:31
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All of them died at ages other than 27 that aren't "in the club" or are still alive.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:33
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The first to pop up in my mind is Nick Drake (26).
Edit: Two more: Jimmy McCulloch (Thunderclap Newman, 26) John Glascock (Carmen/Jethro Tull, 28). ------------- 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:37
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Tim Buckley was 28. Keith Moon was 32. John Bonham was 32. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 14:55
I'm sorry but what kind of an ignorant remark is that?? They were most certainly the opposite of that. To degrade some of the most innovative artists in rock history is disgraceful. What are you trying to prove with this thread exactly?  |
Stool Man wrote:Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:12
I believe he's referring to the superstition that the best artists died at 27, that they're somehow validated by their death at a certain age. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:15
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Also: Christopher Reimer (Women) — 26 years old |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 19:23
Thank you, Mr. Obvious.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 08:17
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Died at 21: Eddie Cochran, Sid Vicious Died at 22: Buddy Holly, Aaliyah Died at 23: Ian Curtis Died at 24: Cliff Burton, Duane Allman, Notorious B.I.G., The Big Bopper Died at 25: Randy Rhodes, Tupac Shakur, Tommy Bolin Died at 26: Otis Redding, Gram Parsons, Nick Drake, Paul Kossoff Died at 28: Steve Gaines, Tim Buckley Died at 29: Cassie Gaines, Ronnie Van Zant, Hank Williams Remember kids, dying at any age is not cool ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: August 19 2013 at 12:04
| Syd Barrett died at 60 years (though for all intents and purposes, he was gone for more than half that time). |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 19 2013 at 16:42
| It's particularly hard to avoid the validity of the 27 Club when your favorite musician (Helmut Koellen) is unfortunately a member. A sad time to depart. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 20 2013 at 00:20
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Here's some from prog or closely related genres... John Lennon - 40 BJ Wilson (Procol Harum) - 43 Frank Zappa - 52 George Harrison - 58 Nic Potter - 61Peter Banks - 65 Captain Beefheart - 69 Ray Manzarek - 74 ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: August 24 2013 at 09:00
validity? Also, do believers in the 27 Club hope and pray that their least favourites artistes survive well beyond that age. Lady Gaga is 27 until late March next year, for example - you want her in your club? Meanwhile, which is 'cooler' - great musicians dying aged 27, or great musicians making great music for many years after that age? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 24 2013 at 12:01
It is not "my club", and i don't want Lady Gaga or anybody else to join it. There is nothing "cool" or "legit" about dying at 27, so i guess there is no validity to it. Still, Helmut being gone at that age is a real tragedy. And i guess i will always get a bit of a chill whenever i hear the term "27 Club". |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 24 2013 at 14:29
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Sid Vicious - Sex Pistols - 21
Billy Mackenzie - Associates - 39
Stuart Adamson - Skids, Big Country - 43
John McGeoch - Magazine, The Banshees - 48
Lee Brilleaux - Dr Feelgood - 41
Randy Rhoads - 25
Marc Bolan - 29
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - 35
Michael Hedges - 43
Kieran O'Connor - Secondhand, Chillum, Seventh Wave - ??
------------- What? |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 24 2013 at 14:48
^I was lucky enough to have seen Ozzy WITH Randy Rhoads. 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 24 2013 at 16:33
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I may be a bit late for the party and somewhat out of the question, but doesn't the appelation "Club of 27" refer to SOME musicians which death had been a trauma in the history of rock? For years, I heard that the Club of 27 included: Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrisson. End of the list, end of the story. Not only there were only 4 musicians included in this macabre "chosen few", but they died between 1969 and 1971, like a totemic warning: "The 60's are closed, get off, go back to work, nothing more to see". THEN, some few musicians were added: Kurt Cobain and... Huh, yeah, Amy Winehouse, appearing like the last ones of a breed born to die as shooting stars and symbols of... Well, the excesses of Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and God only knows what stupid legend about Rock'n'Roll that could be added to this tryptich. Good grief, I must sound like the drunken hidden son of moshkito. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 25 2013 at 08:28
| Federico D'Andrea (Libra)-30 |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 07:17
it wasn't a thing until 1994 when Kurt Cobain 'joined'. People in 1971 weren't thinking that those 4 all died at the same age (woo spooky etc) at all. They just died and it was sad. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 13:31
Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and Stupidity?
Sex, Drugs, Rock'n'Roll and Drowning in your own vomit?
Live fast, die young and leave your corpse in a puddle of spilt bodily fluids.
Lee Brilleaux died two days after Cobain and his death was somewhat overlooked by the music press at the time, which was shame. ------------- What? |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 13:43
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Keith Richards died at age 27, but no one has informed him yet. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 13:43
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Mama Cass - 32 { Keith Moon died in the same flat at the same age}
Karen Carpenter - 32
Sandy Denny - 31
Sabine Dünser (Elis) - 29
Édith Piaf - 41
------------- What? |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 26 2013 at 23:43
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Some classical composers who either had their work interpreted by prog musicians or influenced them... Modeste Mussorgsky - 42 Gustav Holst - 60 Anton Webern - 62 Bela Bartok - 64JS Bach - 65 Arnold Schoenberg - 77 Edgar Varese - 82 Igor Stravinsky - 89 ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 27 2013 at 18:38
Look, guys (and girls, if there are womyn on PA), don't you think this thread is starting to look like a Wikipedia page indexing all dead musicians?
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 28 2013 at 01:01
^ they're not dead musicians, they're decomposing composers  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 28 2013 at 23:21
Don't forget the first musician to start the club...Robert Johnson  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: September 01 2013 at 12:19
Alexandre Levy and Louis Chauvin were first and second. Johnson might have been third. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: September 01 2013 at 22:25
Hahaha, that was a good one.  |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:23
Thanks, I stole it from an old Monty Python album "They're decomposing composers there's nothing much anyone can do You can still hear Beethoven but Beethoven cannot hear you" ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 02 2013 at 00:05
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: September 05 2013 at 10:28
1. That it doesn't mean Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Jones, etc are cool because they died at such an age (any fan of theirs would surely prefer to have heard what they might have gone on to create in later years)
2. That membership of such a club doesn't make a person automatically on the same level as the above mentioned foursome (Cobain as good as Hendrix? Winehouse as good as Joplin? Nah)
3. That membership of such a club doesn't make one better or cooler than those who died slightly younger or older (will Nick Drake or Tim Buckley fans be kicking themself over their idols' bad timing? I don't think they will) ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 05 2013 at 10:32
And the other point (ie why I listed dozens of musicians who died early but not at age 27), is that there is no significance in the number whatsoever, not even for the people who died at that age. ------------- What? |