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From the Sublime to the ridiculous!

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Topic: From the Sublime to the ridiculous!
Posted By: M27Barney
Subject: From the Sublime to the ridiculous!
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 09:39
Eg.
Going for the one.......Tormato

and to a lesser extent.....
Moving Pictures......Signals
Wind & Wuthering......And then there were three


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 09:45
I wouldn't describe Tormato, ATTWT or Signals as ridiculous. Tormato is significantly worse that GFTO, and I would concede that Circus of Heaven is somewhat ridiculous...

I actually think ATTWT and Signals are generally pretty strong albums.

However, 90125 - Big Generator perhaps..

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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 09:57
Twas a figure of speech ! better title than "two albums in sequence the latter being a lot worse than the previous release"

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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 10:39
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Twas a figure of speech ! better title than "two albums in sequence the latter being a lot worse than the previous release"

Except in the case of your last two examples that simply isn't true. But hey, it's all a matter of taste. With that in mind:

Pink Floyd: 
Meddle -> Obscured by Clouds
Animals -> The Wall

King Crimson
Red -> Discipline

Porcupine Tree
Fear of a Blank Planet -> The Incident

Steve Hackett
Defector -> Cured


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 23:24
I honestly can't think of any 'sublime to ridiculous' examples but
ELP-BSS to Works Vol 1 almost qualifies for me.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 03 2014 at 23:51
- Saga  to  Images at Twilight
- Killers
  to  Number of the Beast
- Liquid Tension Experiment 2 
to  Spontaneous Combustion
- Signals 
to  Grace Under Pressure


Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 00:05
Oldfield: Amarok -> Heaven's Open

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 06 2014 at 20:36
Troll : Minstrel in the Gallery ~ Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 02:00
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I wouldn't describe Tormato, ATTWT or Signals as ridiculous. Tormato is significantly worse that GFTO, and I would concede that Circus of Heaven is somewhat ridiculous...

I actually think ATTWT and Signals are generally pretty strong albums.

However, 90125 - Big Generator perhaps..

I agree, though I still like Tormato. 


Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 04:15
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


- Killers
  to  Number of the Beast



Wat


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 07 2014 at 04:26
^ Yeah I know I'm mostly alone on that--  maybe you had to be there Big smile .



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 10 2014 at 10:10
5 stars down to 2 stars:

Pink Floyd
The Wall to The Final Cut


IQ
The Wake to Nomzamo


Marillion
Seasons End to Holidays In Eden







Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 10 2014 at 10:49
Sublime has always been kind of a ridiculous band to me.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2014 at 10:50
Iron Maiden: Seventh Son... to No Prayer for the Dying
Yes - GFTO to Tormato (I agree)
Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers to House of Blue light
Genesis - Duke to Abacab
Dream Theater - Awake to Falling Into Infinity

I'll be back with more examples. None of the albums i mentioned are ridiculous, they are just weaker than the first mentions. 



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 11 2014 at 14:36
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Iron Maiden: Seventh Son... to No Prayer for the Dying
Yes - GFTO to Tormato (I agree)
Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers to House of Blue light
Genesis - Duke to Abacab
Dream Theater - Awake to Falling Into Infinity

I'll be back with more examples. None of the albums i mentioned are ridiculous, they are just weaker than the first mentions. 

I did think about the Genesis one that you mention but its just that I'm not convinced Duke is anything more than 4 stars and Abacab probably no worse than 3 stars (although I hated it when it was released). It was the radical change in their musical emphasis that grated more than any massive drop in standards. Dodo/Lurker is also one of my favourite Genesis tracks.Wink


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: February 11 2014 at 18:36
Jon Anderson went from Olias of Sunhillow to the almost unlistenable Song of Seven (only the title track redeems it.)  It would be difficult to find a larger fall.

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Posted By: The Glide
Date Posted: February 12 2014 at 02:58
Mayhem - De Mysteriss Dom Sathanas - Grand Declaration of war
Gorguts - from wisdom to hate - colored sands
Atheist - unquestionable presence - elements
At the gates - terminal spirit disease - slaughter of the soul
My bloody valentine - loveless - mbv
cynic - focus - traced in air
Pendragon - not of this world - believe


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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: February 12 2014 at 06:19
Focus - Hamburger Concerto>Mother Focus



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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: February 13 2014 at 16:38
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Eg.
Going for the one.......Tormato

and to a lesser extent.....
Moving Pictures......Signals
Wind & Wuthering......And then there were three

Not as familiar with Rush's "transition" from Moving Pictures to Signals, but you are spot-on about Yes and Genesis!  With Genesis, it might be understandable with the departure of Steve Hackett at that point.  But, Yes?  After such a great album as GFTO, what were they thinking releasing Tormato?  'Ridiculous' is the polite word for it (no doubt...)


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 13 2014 at 18:19
VDGG - debut The Aerosol Grey machine  to The Least We Can do is wave to each other


Obviously the reverse is the case - being that the debut is nowhere near as good as TLWCDIWTEO




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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 13 2014 at 18:22
On the other hand the Sublime  was 

followd by World Record - not the worst album but a real shade down in quality


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