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4.05 | 146 ratings | 15 reviews | 35% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1977

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Le Gai Marvin (1:41)
2. La Fin De L'Histoire (3:18)
3. Les Folleries (6:07)
4. Les Epinettes (3:32)
5. Manbo Chant (5:22)
6. Douce-Amere (5:53)
7. Le Gros Roux (3:31)
8. Au Clair De La Prune (4:02)
9. 11 Juillet (5:02)
10. Time Square (1:38)

Total Time: 40:04

Bonus tracks on 2006 ProgQuebec remaster:
11. Bullfrog Dance (6:24)
12. Étrange Hiver (2:49)
13. Douce-Amère (5:57)
14. Un Certain Regard (6:57)

Line-up / Musicians

- Alain Bergeron / piano & electric pianos, Elka Rhapsody, flutes, recorder, piccolo flute
- Vincent Langlois / alto sax, acoustic, electric & slide guitars
- Denis Lapierre / bass, drums, Latin timpani, cow bell, Chinese blocks
- Paul Picard / Flexatone, spoons, Basque drum, chimes, klaxons, vibraphone
- Gilles Schetagne / glockenspiel, tubular bells
- Yves Léonard / percussions (taboukas, gong, darboukas, wood drum, woodblock, maracas)

- Denise Lupien / violin (2,4)
- Chantale Rémillard / violin (2,4)
- Christiane Lampron / viola (2,4)
- Jean Préfontaine / cello (2,4)
- André Pelchat / soprano sax (5)

Releases information

ArtWork: Richard Packwood

LP Polydor ‎- 2424 143 (1977, Canada)

CD Les Disques Kozak ‎- KO 2503-2 (1994, Canada)
CD ProgQuébec ‎- MPM09 (2006, Canada) Remastered by Renée Marc-Aurèle w/ 4 bonus tracks

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Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(35%)
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Review by Sean Trane
4 stars 4.5 stars . This third album is somewhat different than its predecessor in that there is much shorter tunes in them , most of them definitely more jazzy, some slightly funky. One must note that for the first albums Langlois and Bergeron were the writers and from this moment on this will be for Lapierre and Schetagne.On the strenght of this one and its successor, people will classify them under the fusion label , and strictly on those two, I can only agree . These two albums were the only one ever released on CD.

Q : Look closely at the fold-out cover and think of which great infold of a great album this was inspired upon . The colours might help you for outside fold of that same cover. As for the music , this has still the distinctive Maneige twists and curves , sounding so "boppy" and happy , still mixing with such ease all acoustic and electric instruments. So moments are simply orgasmic to your ears. The reason why I don't rate this one as highly as the preceding ones is that those short pieces provide less unity as a whole album.

A : Think of the most positive of all groups to the point that they named themselves upon this positivism and think of their masterpiece with the green cover and open up the gatefold sleeve. Don't believe me? Go back and check it up!

Review by Cesar Inca
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
5 stars Maneige is one of my absolute favourite prog acts from Quebec. Having started their recording career with two heavily chamber-influenced albums, their third one "Ni Vent. ni Nouvelle" finds them exploring their jazzier facet with a refreshed attitude. This is something that really helps their sound to achieve a renewed colorfulness all over the new repertoire, of which a large part is provided an uplifting spirit. The chamber stuff is still there, but notably more subsided in favour of the enhanced jazz factor. The instrumentalists' skill is showed but not showed off: the exquisite performances delivered by all six members (plus some occasional collaborators on string instruments) are cleverly constrained by the well-ordained musical ideas and perfectly integrated arrangements. Hither and thither you may find some influences from Gentle Giant, the jazz side of 71-75 Zappa, Canterbury, Weather Report, but nevertheless, it is true that the final result is not a dilettante mixture, but pure Maneige a voice of their own that shines above any external influences. The brief 'Le Gai Marvin' kicks off the album with a touch of slight picaresque, soon segued into the following track, 'La Fin de l'Histoire', a piece which starts with a solemn motif and ends with a delicate up-tempo jazzy coda, whose melody line is lead by vibes and piano. 'Les Folleries' includes a bunch of funky colors in the sonic palette, keeping and enhancing the subtle complexity and clever interaction that had been already present in the previous numbers: definitely, this is one of the album's most emblematic pieces, a privilege shared by 'Douce-Amere', 'Le Gros Roux', '11 Juillet' - all of them, perfect examples of the band's immaculate performing skills and rich musical vision. 'Les Epinettes' is a beautiful piece that keeps the listener attuned with Maneige's gentle side; and so does 'Mambo Chant' immediately after, with the band adding nuances of Latin jazz whose tones get increasingly intense near the end. Later on, this same gentle side in 'Au Clair de Prune', if only with an increased dose of sophistication. 'Time Square' closes down the album as if it were the soundtrack to a brief humorous sketch in a TV show: sheer simple joy at the end of the road, delivered with the exquisite finesse that has been present all around. I'm really enthusiastic about this album: this Canadian prog fusion masterpiece deserves a 5 star rating, and each individual musician involved deserves a gold medal.
Review by Trotsky
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
3 stars This wholly instrumental album from another of the legends of Queboicois prog has a few pleasing tunes, but frequently projects a tepid, sterile feel that doesn't give it enough of an identity, certainly when compared to some of the passionate playing on Les Porches. Mind you, when I first heard the opener Le Goi Marvin I was excited ... nice flute, violin passages, fancy vibraphone work, tight playing, diversity, energy, the lot. Another outstanding piece is La Fin De L'Histoire, which starts off as flute-led folk-rock that will tickle the fancy of the Tullers out there, before a great guitar/sax exchange of solos and a funky percussion segment round the piece off.

However, despite some occasionally outstanding playing (I really like the drummer's control and chops) I tend to lose interest round about the time the fourth piece Les Epinettes kicks off. It's almost as if the middle of the road sound cancels out the inventives of the arrangements. There's also a cheesy Latin fusion thing going that rears its head far too often for my liking (Au Clair De La Prune has some horrible "fusion-lite" sections that I really hate, parts of Mambo Chant are downright annoying, while the less said about the silly concluding track Time Square the better!).

Also striking out in a different direction, Douce Am Re has a big guitar solo from Vincent Langlois that could inspired Mark Knofpler's whole career! I like the bubbly world feel of Le Grox Roux, which has some great bass work from Lapierre (who seems to have doubled up as the rhythm section ... although to be fair three other people are credited with percussion!) but really most of the second half of this record is wasted on me.

If this were the only Maneige album I'd ever heard, I would confidently deem the group to be an overrated entity, but because I know Les Porches has some superb playing that makes this record all the more frustrating. This jazz-rock is extremely competent but there are dozens of bands plouging the same field that I find to be more dynamic ... 55% on the MPV scale

Review by Moatilliatta
4 stars Maneige is one of my favorite recent discoveries. They are a fine fusion group from Quebec. Ni Vent...Ni Nouvelle is one of the fortunate Maneige albums to be released on CD. After hearing the brilliant and beautiful Les Porches, which is not available on CD (hopefully not for long), I pounced on this one.

While the compositions are shorter, they maintain the high level of quality from before. The general mood is very light, airy and happy. Occasionally they break from that and get into some pretty heavy jams. In short, we have memorable melodies, a good rhythm section to back those melodies, and some of the best auxiliary percussiom implementation I've ever heard. Maneige are surely among the top groups who use auxiliary percussion. Take a look at all of those instruments! We have timpani, latin timpani, cenceros, Chinese blocks, taboukas, gong, darboukas, wood drum, woodblock, maracas, spoons, Basque drum, chimes, glockenspiel, vibraphone and tubular bells. Each of which is used with precision, making it one of the most interesting, and colorful fusion albums from one of the most interesting and colorful fusion groups.

All in all, Maneige is not a group to miss. Fusion fans especially need to get their hands on at least one of their albums.

Review by Mellotron Storm
4 stars These guys really blew my socks off ! Classically trained and very creative. Shorter songs this time which didn't go over too well with song writer and keyboardist Jerome Langlois, who left prior to the recording of this album because of that.This is so different, the variety of instruments, the xylophone, vibraphone and on and on, all creating a fresh, energetic album that is truly progressive.

"Le Gai Marvin" features lots of flute as other sounds come and go.This is a short intro tune. "La Fin De L'Histoire" has some atmosphere to it. I really love the way this one sounds. Flute leads the way for the first half then it changes to a more uptempo track. "Les Folleries" is a song that seems to show off almost all of the instrumentalists playing abilities, a mixed bag that is yet very cohesive. So much going on here once it gets going. A collage of intricate sounds. A change after 1 1/2 minutes. Very cool to hear the guitar and sax trade soos as the bass digs deep. Amazing stuff ! I could almost mention the drumming on every song, it's pretty amazing. Check it out before 4 minutes. Flute is back. The song continues to change and evolve. "Les Epinettes" is pastoral to open with piano and acoustic guitar leading the way. Flute comes in and leads.

"Mambo Chant" opens with piano melodies. Bass and guitar join the percussion and synths. Piano is back leading before 2 1/2 minutes. Drums and bass are prominant a minute later. Sax late with percussion and drums. "Douce-Amere" has these xylophone sounds that sound pretty upbeat and silly. Drums join in with guitar. Vocal melodies 2 minutes in sound great. A change after 3 minutes to a good beat with atmosphere then guitar joins in. Amazing sound ! "Le Gros Roux" opens with bass and vibes. Flute and drums take over.The contrasts continue. "Au Clair De La Prune" is jazzy to open. Lots of sax throughout the first half then it settles as flute leads the way. "11 Juillet" becomes uptempo with some great sax and drumming. "Time Square" is the silly 1 1/2 minute closer. The bonus tracks come from the live record "Composite" and the four songs truly are worthy additions. Love the flute on the last live song, it really reminds me of the flute that SINKADUS is famous for. "Douce Amere" boasts some terrific guitar. And "Etrange Hiver" is a beautiful flute laden song.

Looking for something a little different ? You can't go wrong with this record. After their self titled debut this is my favourite from them.

Review by Gooner
4 stars Maneige's first 2 albums had too many cooks in the kitchen and their sound was a mixture of Henry Cow- light, Gilgamesh, Gentle Giant influences and post-Daevid Allen Gong. Their first 2 albums were somewhat directionless best served as backround music while not quite being muzak. No question Maneige are talented bunch, but the first 2 albums were meandering jazz doodling, really(IMHO). However, _Ni Vent, Ni Nouvelle shows Maneige maturing with cohesive composition and some playful childlike melodies combined with a lightjazz ethereal flow(if that makes any sense to you, dear reader). Electric guitar appears more frequently. This is a percussion heavy album, not unlike Pierre Moerlin's Gong. Other points of reference would be Pekka Pohjola and the Spanish band GOTIC. Recommended.
Review by Warthur
3 stars Steering a little closer to more traditional jazz fusion waters (with the barest hint of Canterbury here and there), Ni Vent Ni Nouvelle offers a somewhat more accessible variant of Maneige which will appeal to many fusion listeners but rather obscures their finer qualities and will certainly disappoint those hoping they would build on the magnificent foundation of Les Porches. Despite the switch to focusing on shorter tracks, the band still manage to work in some symphonic prog stylings here and there - sufficient to justify the Yes/Roger Dean influenced cover art, at any rate. Alain Bergeron's flute playing is particularly touching this time around, and the band adeptly incorporate a string section into their sound. Not groundbreaking like its predecessors, but good fusion nonetheless.
Review by b_olariu
4 stars Third album from this excellent band released in 1977 - Ni nouvelle, this time the band optain for shorter pieces maybe because Jerome Langloisleft the band a year prior, he was the main composer of the band and the driving force for long eleborated compositions. Even this album is shorter with pieces all under 6 min, is no less intresting then Les porches. They infuse in the jazz fusion atmosphere lots of avant moments with some folk touches here and there becaus eof the use of the flute, and all album is instrumental. Not bad at all, maybe in places is even more intresting then some parts from previous album, at least for me. Not an easy album to listen, is quite complex with plenty of intresting moments. All pieces are at highest level, maybe those very mellow are not so attractive to me but no less inovative. Again 4 stars.
Review by apps79
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
4 stars 1975 was also the last year of Jérôme Langlois with Maneige.Due to musical differences he parted ways with the band and moved on to a solo career, while he also started writing music for TV and cinema productions.Paul Picard joined the band permanently on drums and Alain Bergeron was the only one to handle some piano parts during the next sessions.The third album of Maneige ''Ni vent... ni nouvelle'' came out in 1976 on Polydor, featuring guest musicians Andre Pelchat (from L'Infonie) on sax, Jean Prefontaine on viola and Chantale Remillard/Denise Lupien on violin.

Forget about the long compositions of the previous efforts and the interesting leading keyboards of Langlois for this album.Does this mean that Maneige sounded less tasteful or moreover commercial?No way, ''Ni vent... ni nouvelle'' does not contain any long pieces, in fact none clocks at over 6 minutes, but the music remains extremely sophisticated, fascinating and complex, showing an obvious turn towards more jazzy rhythms and solos and presenting an instrumental lifting.The sound is now heavily relying on flutes, sax and electric guitar with occasional piano interludes and frequent injections by the invited string section.The music is great with countless interplays, managing to be delivered in a dreamy fashion, which still bursts incredible individual and teamwork skills.The overall style contains soft symphonic touches, the already known rural vibes and a heavier Prog Fusion attempt with the guitars having a dominant role compared to the previous albums.What's really exciting about the album is how the hell these guys maintained this efficient profile, balancing between chamber and jazzy arrangements, after a quite significant instrumental change.To my ears this one sounds even better than ''Les porches'', even introducing a few somewhat bombastic sections between the elaborate and efficient interplays and ends up to offer a nice bunch of amazing electroacoustic mini-suites.

Superb album.Jazz meets Classical meets Folk meets Rock Music in one of the best displays ever to see the light by a Prog band.Instrumental flexibility, excellent interactions and lovely orchestrations.Highly recommended.

Review by FragileKings
4 stars Getting into the Quebec prog scene, Maneige was an unavoidable band. I did try to circumvent them, but inevitably (or rather soon actually) I found them essential. The problem for me was that they were a jazz fusion band and that is not a style of music that takes up very much space in my collection at all. I listened to them on YouTube and wondered where I was going to be able to "land" my musical interests. At last, it seemed that "Ni vent... Ni nouvelle" had the most guitars ("Les Porches", which is considered a quintessential Canadian prog album in some circles, was too much jazz/classical fusion for my taste from what I heard) and seemed the best gateway for me to get into the band. I also really liked the gatefold type cover with a landscape theme not dissimilar to Yes' "Fragile" album artwork.

This was Maneige's third album and it was a departure from their longer thematic compositions. "Ni vent... Ni nouvelle" is comprised of ten shorter compositions with two of them, "Le Gai Marvin" and "Time Square", being under two minutes, and "Les Folleries" occupying the most space with 6:07. I have read that some feel that even though this is a very good album, it is less coherent than the debut or the classic "Les Porches". Admittedly, this notion stayed with me as I listened to the album the first two times. However, since I have no other Maneige album to compare with, I have to draw my conclusions from this one. And my conclusion is that I rather like it.

This is an all instrumental album with six band members and five guests. One of the first things you might notice is the use of percussion for the lead melody on some tracks. Just take a look at the members' names and the instruments they play and you will see four of the six involved in percussion work. But don't worry. There's plenty of beautiful classical piano, some strings, acoustic and electric guitar, saxophone, flute and bass guitar. Each piece has a different take and the longer ones go through some different musical motifs ensuring a journey through beautiful piano and strings, exciting and active percussion leads, some sax and electric guitar duos, and a variety of creative compositions. Personal favourites of mine are "La Fin de l'Histoire", "Les Folleries", "Les Epinettes" and "Douce-Amere". "11 Juillet" also has some cool moments.

It has taken me a few listens to really feel comfortable with the album but I feel it's a successful piece of work. There is most certainly an audience for this here on PA, and I am glad to have been able to expand my progressive music tastes one album wider.

Review by Progfan97402
3 stars Well, better late than never for Maneige, as far as I'm concerned. The great thing I like about Quebecois prog is many original LPs from many acts are not going for ridiculous prices the way Italian prog goes for. So I can get a nice little collection and not have it break my bank account, even if I do live in the States and usually have to pay extra for S&H to get them shipped from Canada. At least I got my first Maneige LP from a dealer in South Dakota (via Discogs), of all places. Maneige LPs, for the most part are pretty inexpensive (unless you want to seek out the "removed from the market as fast it was released" original cover of Libre Service, the one with the cartoonish gas pumps billowing smoke). Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle was their first album on Polydor, after two albums from 1975 on Harvest. Apparently the group had a lineup change so it also affected the change in the band's sound. The group now focused on shorter songs, but a lot of them are segued anyways. Aeon Music (defunct prog rock mail order catalog, now an eBay seller) described it as "Good progressive fusion that reminds of Gentle Giant at times". Given the highly percussive nature of the music, I can see where that catalog was coming from (and it's not likely a coincidence given GG's popularity in Quebec). The band moved away from the chamber approach of their first two albums for a more jazz rock/prog approach, with more emphasis on drums and electric instruments, including electric piano. There is a bit of quirkiness where the Gentle Giant comparison comes in, and more melodic moments to gets one thinking of the Catalan band Gotic and their 1978 album Escenes (but it's unlikely Gotic heard of Maneige, given how Quebecois prog bands were usually not known outside of Quebec, even the rest of Canada, never mind in a place like Spain). There's perhaps a bit of a reminder of Sloche as well, that probably wasn't as much of a coincidence, as that band was also from Quebec, and already released both their albums before 1977. There's also a bit of a reminder of Zappa's instrumental stuff (when the xylophones dominate) or even Pierre Moerlen's Gong (because they too had a heavily percussive approach). I do believe the album is a bit overrated, as there's a few insipid moments I could do without. Still, it's worth having, but didn't quite set my world on fire.

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5 stars Ni Vent...Ni Nouvelle (english translation "no wind no news") is a tremendously successful transition album, as the heavy chamber influences of the first two albums is replaced by far more concise song structures with progressive fusion tendencies. The start-stop dynamism is best represented by ... (read more)

Report this review (#1641228) | Posted by Nogger | Friday, November 11, 2016 | Review Permanlink

5 stars This album by Maneige abandons the baroque and classical influences of their earlier work. The band's musical direction is more towards uptempo fusion with funky tendencies. All songs are instrumental and have the same feel: lots of flute, piano, sax, vibes and guitar. Also loads of percussion, ... (read more)

Report this review (#1598321) | Posted by Kingsnake | Wednesday, August 17, 2016 | Review Permanlink

5 stars A beautiful album from a Canadian band from seventies. Classified as a fusion jazz band, I think that have lots of calm and spacey parts with lots of flute and classic guitar sounds. This album is a fusion of several styles, without the predominance of one. Excellent work as musical and full of ... (read more)

Report this review (#442751) | Posted by João Paulo | Wednesday, May 4, 2011 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Third album by my favorite Québec progressive rock band. This time, they went for a jazzier style even if they still show strong folk influences. Maneige has always been great to blend folk elements into their fusion. Their first albums may even be classified as folk-classical instrumental rock b ... (read more)

Report this review (#80887) | Posted by Bern | Saturday, June 10, 2006 | Review Permanlink

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