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BarryGlibb 
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 Topic: Tull without Martin BarrePosted: November 25 2011 at 18:41 |
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With the latest gossip saying that Martin Barre may not play with Tull again.
The question begs: Should Tull cease to be if Martin is no longer in the band? |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 19:05 |
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It would be like Yes without a Squire.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 19:08 |
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In truth, Jethro Tull is Ian Anderson... but Martin Barre has (almost) always been part of the project. I guess in the end Anderson will do whatever he wants to do with the Jethro Tull name. However, if Jethro Tull would tour again, without Martin Barre, I would be rather disapointed at not getting the chance to hear Jethro Tull with Barre (I have not yet attended any Jethro Tull concert, and have been thinking about doing so if they tour again).
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 19:39 |
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No. Ian is the main man, even if Barre has been there for like 97% of JT's existance.
To me it's like KC and Fripp. Doesn't matter who is in the band, as long as Fripp is still there.
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Vompatti
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 19:43 |
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I saw them live without Barre once and didn't feel like asking for my money back.
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: November 25 2011 at 20:16 |
Well said.  |
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Anthony H.
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 20:57 |
Agreed. Not to disrespect Martin, of course. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 21:23 |
I saw them without Martin twice and didn't feel like asking for my money back too.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Zombywoof
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 21:26 |
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I won't support Tull without Barre, so I picked the first option.
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Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ...
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Manuel
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 22:17 |
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Is quite simple. Even Ian Anderson said it once "No Martin Barre, No Jethro Tull"
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 22:24 |
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Tull without Barre? I'm still irritated that Barrimore Barlow and John Evan left Tull.
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 25 2011 at 22:38 |
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No, but it would be a very different Tull. Ian Anderson once said that if it were not for Martin, Tull would not have been. I take that to mean that Tull would not have lasted much beyond This Was, Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (with the timely presence of Tony Iommi) aside. Anderson may be numero uno, but Barre has also been a vital force. No one can replace Martin, but I am wondering who might step in. Any rumors on that?
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 00:23 |
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Why rumors? Florian Opahle usually plays with Ian: http://j-tull.com/musicians/florianopahle/index.html.
Edited by NotAProghead - November 26 2011 at 00:27 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 00:24 |
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Florian Opahle?
That's the rumour. |
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The Truth
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 00:34 |
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Barre give Tull a certain quality that makes them Tull, that fact is undeniable. Now whether they should cease if he leaves, that's debatable.
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yanch
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 10:13 |
Agree with this. As much as I love Martin Barre, the band is really Ian Anderson. A year ago I probably would have said no way, but after seeing Ian live on his solo tour and how well the Tull songs were done, I'd have to say that Tull can survive without Martin Barre.
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Gandalff
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 10:41 |
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What about Abrahams' return?
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 11:50 |
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By the way, we talk like Tull already fired Martin, but on the band's website tours announced as Ian Anderson's ones, not a single word of Jethro Tull tour: http://j-tull.com/tourdates/index.html.
Ian Anderson - 2011 Ian Anderson "Thick as a Brick" Tour - 2012
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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lazland
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 12:09 |
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^ Good point. Anderson could easily have gone out and toured as Tull without Barre, but chose not to, and he owns all of the rights. Barre is an essential part of the band.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 26 2011 at 14:03 |
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^ Barre is an important part of the band, but with or without him (I saw both live) the band sounds like JT.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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