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Fassbinder 
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 Posted: January 03 2007 at 18:02 |
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eugene
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:54 |
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Absurdist verses are only part of BG's lyrical output, apart from those he wrote some very understandable poetry.
There is so called "associative" poetry which bears no exact meaning but only creates some associations, impressions and images, which I find to be very much to my likings, and also some of his abstract verses are absolutely brilliant IMO. I think he was very much influenced by Jon Anderson in writing non-sensical songs. Unfortunately BG is no-where near JA music-wise.
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:45 |
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 I don't care at all for Kino, DDT or Nautilus, Mashina Vremeni, etc. but Aquarium are one of my favorite bands. BG is a genius composer! maybe you haven't heard enough? He's my favorite lyricist ever too, but that's another story. |
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Rivertree
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Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17660 |
Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:43 |
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Not a good idea if you want to earn money sometimes ... |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:33 |
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one of many human's flaws 
Just made an AUTOGRAPH's Kamenny Kray review.Not their best,but a worthy one for 80s' sound lovers(a mix of late Rush and Floyd) Edited by Prog-jester - January 03 2007 at 17:34 |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:32 |
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just found their site today,never heard them before. I think I should leave my University and concentrate on submitting Russian bands here!!!!!!! 
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honganji
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:29 |
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Please wait. I have only one body.
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Rivertree
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:25 |
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Don't forget Ole Lukkoye - I saw them live in Germany I think two or three years ago - a very impressive concert
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:15 |
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That one is good!!! well,yeah,sometimes lyrical part can spoil the whole impression - again here I mean this ELP-influenced band... I hope their next would be better from this side.
I guess most of Russian proggers are aware of that side - it's very hard to combine Prog music with good Russian lyrics,that's why there's a great number of INSTRUMENTAL PROG in Russia/CIS/USSR.Music speaks for itself
Once again, I found some bands to be great in poetry - EXTROVERT and FLEUR |
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Fassbinder
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 16:27 |
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I'm curious, however, what would I said about Aquarium had I no acquaintance with Russian.
Actually, my mainest problem with Russian music is the fact that I do understand the lyrics (well, with the single exception of BG's lyrics -- I'm not sure there is anyone who understands them fully, including BG himself; in his case I can say that I understand all (most  )the words he's used).Edited by Fassbinder - January 03 2007 at 16:28 |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 13:44 |
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Honganji, I'm expecting your PM!!!
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 13:44 |
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Dick,never heard these two,but going to
Now listening to BOSCH;S WITH YOU - Russian Post-rock outfit.They have some tracks free-to-download from their site.Check them, guys!!! It's like GYBE meets Mogwai!!! |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 13:36 |
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Well,I'm really interested in what way was the Soviet public divided back in 80s...I mean nowadays most of the young Russian proggers I communicate with tend to despise Russian Lyric-oriented Rock and rather throw themselves into hardly-bearable avan-stuff instead of listening to a single song from BG or DDT.Do you know how it was back in 80s?Did Prog listeners from USSR despised RusRock bands?
Personally I appreciate the marked sides of both - lyrical one in RusRock and musical one in Prog.There are good examples of nice lyrics along with great prog on our scene,BTW - just to name EXTROVERT and FLEUR as examples. And there are hardly-bearable ones - like...well,you know,these Gumilev-fans... hope,NotAProgHead won't kill me for the words I wrote - as long as I know he likes their lyrical side as much as the musical one
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 13:35 |
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Just been introduced to Sepsis (does anybody know of the whereabouts of the original band members?) by Alan Freeman of Ultima Thule, which continues to be a great store for European prog. BTW Freeman suggests the bandto sound a hybrid of Yes with the quirky time signatures of the Magic Band.
Gunesh from the old eastern central part of the old USSR, i.e. Turkmanistan, needs to be mentioned for their eastern biassed jazz rock. Apparently Peter Gabriel tried but failed to obtain the services of their drummer/leader Rishad Shafi in the late 80's. |
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eugene
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 07:03 |
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I kinda agree with Fassbinder here - Aquarium are lyrics-oriented band as well as majority of Soviet bands. Poetry of BG is not everybody's cup of tea - my first wife, for example, was getting furious about them, I however consider good part of them to bear a touch of Genius, as opposed to Kino and Nautilus Pompilius. As lyricist, Shevchuk from DDT is my favourite and Makarevich (Mashina Vremeni) is also great. But all these bands are definitely song-oriented with emphasis on lyrics. Musically all of them are very mediocre, with rather primitive vocals melodies and simple easy accessible musical arrangements.
All in all these bands are falling in footsteps of Russian Bards, with only difference that bards are accompanied by a guitar, and these guys are accompanied by a band, transforming bards tradition in a modern way, making it more accessible for modern listener, and bringing it closer to their audience.
IMHO all these bands, being an interesting and important musical phenomenon of Soviet culture, have nothing to do with Prog whatsoever.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 04:51 |
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Yes, BG has always been more attentive to lyrics than to musical side.Anyway,there can be at least 10-20 art-rock songs in his entire career . I think AQUARIUM's adding happened mainly due to The Miracle's unquestionable authority...he the grey cardinal RULES this site!!!
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DarioIndjic
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 01:04 |
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That was the same in socialist Yugoslavia,after the so called new wave movement in the late 70s (same as punk movement in UK) ,prog disapeared forever from the Yu rock scene,because lyrics became more important than music.
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Fassbinder
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 00:43 |
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You're absolutely right.
But, somehow, I always considered Aquarium to be in the same row as Kino, DDT, Nautilus Pompilius, or Mashina Vremeni, i.e., lyrics-oriented. And (sorry, sorry, sorry everybody who loves Aquarium), I just can't stand them. Well, not them. Him. Because of his manner of singing and, mostly, because of his lyrics.
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DarioIndjic
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 20:54 |
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I only own Horizont and Artemiev(which music i discovered through my beloved Tarkovsky's films),i would like to know other Russian bands ,i will check for the recommendations on this thread to enlarge my russian prog collection. And i understand a little your feeling about your country's prog Prog-jester,because in Yugoslavia there was also very good prog bands in the 70s of which i didnt know anything about before i discovered this site,every corner of the world have his lost/obscure gems,but what a joy is to discover them.There was many great albums in Eastern Europe but due to the politics at the time,there weren't exposed. Edited by DarioIndjic - January 02 2007 at 21:00 |
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Prog-jester
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 18:21 |
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Erik,check the Ukrainian band Er.J.Orchestra!!! This is superb blend of Fusion,Sympho and World music!They MUST be here FOR SURE!!! Good Lord, I discovered them JUST TODAY!!!
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The Miracle wrote:
) about absence of sugar, and that what was called Rock. Majority of Soviet Rock listeners sacrifised musical side to LYRICS - so, there's no place for Prog-Rock with its instrumentals and virtuosity.
