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    Posted: May 09 2005 at 21:57
Achim Reichel - 3
Aera - Humanum Est
Agitation Free - Second
Amon Duul 2 - Tanz der Lemminge
Annexus Quam - Osmose
Ash Ra Temple - Join Inn
Ashra - New Age of Earth
      - Blackouts
Between - Einsteig
Birth Control - Backdoor Possibilities
Broselmaschine - same
Can - Tago Mago
Cluster - Zuckerzeit
Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket
Holger Czukay - Movies
DOM - Edge of Time
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Eiliff - Girlrls
Eloy - Ocean
Embryo - Rocksession
Emtidi - Saat
Eroc - same
Edgar Froese - Stuntman
Frumpy - 2
Gila - same
Grobschnitt - Ballermann
Guru Guru - Kanguru
Michael Hoenig - Departures From a Northern
Wasteland
Kraan - Andy Nogger
      - Weiderhoren
Liliental - same
Message - From Books & Dreams
Neu! - 75
Morpheus - Rabenteuer
Out of Focus - same
Popol Vuh - Das Hohelied Salomos
Hans Joachim Roedelius - Durch die Wuste
Micheal Rother - Flammende Herzen
                  - Katzenmusik
Satin Whale - Desert Places
Schicke, Fuhrs & Froeling - Symphonic Pictures
Gunter Schickert - Uberfallig
Conrad Schnitzler - Ballet Statique
Klaus Schulze - Moondawn
                - Body Love vol. 2
Peter Seiler - Keyboards & Friends
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
                    - Cyclone
                    - Force Majeure
Thirsty Moon - You'll Never Come Back
Walter Wegmuller - Tarot
Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass

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got stuck at 52, anyone have suggestions as to
which 2 to cut?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2005 at 21:59
I only know Eloy's Ocean from this list.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2005 at 22:16
I know you don't do the whole heavy German accented English thing... but Anyone's Daughter's Adonis and Neuschwanstein's Battlement need to be on this list. We need to see some Faust on this list too.

As far as the cutting goes, I can't say as I've only heard about half of these, but I think one of the Ashra albums should be cut, IMO Ashra weren't good enough to deserve two albums. Also cut Schicke Fuhrs Frohling, as I believe they are Swiss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2005 at 22:49
Originally posted by Vegetableman Vegetableman wrote:

I know you don't do the
whole heavy German accented English thing...
but Anyone's Daughter's Adonis and
Neuschwanstein's Battlement need to
be on this list. We need to see some Faust on this
list too.

As far as the cutting goes, I can't say as I've only
heard about half
of these, but I think one of the Ashra albums should
be cut, IMO Ashra
weren't good enough to deserve two albums. Also
cut Schicke Fuhrs
Frohling, as I believe they are Swiss.



good case you bring up, don't agree on any of the
above. IMO german bands following english styled
music in general where second rate. Ashra
produced 2 of the 50 or at least 100 best progressive
albums in the 70s, IMO, I would be more likely to
dump Ash Ra Temples experimental Join Inn. SSF
band members where from the Cologne and
Hamburg areas of Northern Germany.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 02:54
Eloy - 'Power And The Passion' is undoubtedy worthy enough to include in this list.Also Tangerine Dream's 'Ricochet' instead of 'Cyclone'.I havn't a clue after that though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 03:23

Yeah, I don't know which to cut, I do know some which I would like to add:

Rousseau- Retreat

Rousseau - Square The Circle

Neuschwanstein - Battlement

Epidaurus - Earthly Paradise

Novalis - Brandung

Chandelier - Facing Gravity

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 03:24
Sorry, I now see it was about seventies rock, so forget Rousseau and Chandelier
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 03:54

I would have chosen "Wolf City" by Amon Duul II - although "Phallus Dei" remains my favourite, the former is definitely the more accessible!

I would have been tempted towards "Ege Bamyasi" by Can - "Tago Mago" can be a bit over-long, and the former just seems more representative to me.

Apart from that, not a bad list.

 

I obtained some samples of the Necronomicon album "Tips Zum Selbstmord", as a result of my enquiries into the rarer stuff. From what I've heard (30-second samples of each track), it's fantastic! Much of it is accessible and really rocks, although there's no doubt that overall this is an album for people who "get" Kraturock. It's a bit gloomy - the first "doom" rock band proper, perhaps? At the very least, a "gloom" rock band!

I found this review;

"At last, again, reissued: a masterpiece of suicidal, political Krautrock heaviosity from 1972. NECRONOMICON. Freaky then, freaky now. Psychedelic hard rock that was about as 'extreme' as it got at the time...definitely if Terrorizer magazine had existed back then, these Germans would have made the cover. Not that this extreme by today's blackened metal standards, as there's enough pretty and melodic elements included amongst the fuzz riffage to satisfy the mellower hippie types in the Necronomicon freak-scene. And, they're no Black Sabbath. Still, pretty far gone for '72. The title: How To Kill Yourself. Now that's a bad trip. The very first track, the seven-minute "Prolog", almost makes the remainder of this album superflous, as it's a full, epic encapsulation Necronomicon's heavy prog excess. Theirs is an album replete with stinging acid guitar, heady Hammond organ, and monkish chanting. Ecclisastical choirs wail over trudging, yearning guitar and organ -- shades of Magma and J.A. Caesar. It's like Amon Duul II murdering Pink Floyd and riding their animated corpses all the way to hell. Again, not in any way metal, but what you might call Wagnerian garage-psych. (...) what band ever lives up to an H.P. Lovecraft inspired name like Necronomicon? Well, Shub Niggurath did, and so do these guys. (...) Definitely an obscure but A-list kraut/psych album for those with occult tastes..."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 04:07

WITTHUSER & WESTRUPP remains one of my fav!!! Where are they???? trips & traum is the best krautrock album of all time: acid, odd esoteric prog folk...a marvellous adventure throw time!!

And where's ANIMA? one of the most challenged band in the german prog scene...Sturmischer Himmel is a very personnal effort, kind of experimental acid music with self made instruments...also one of my favorites!!!

 

However great list!!!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 04:26

forgive me all, Im not trying to dominate or be a know it all. I am trying to supply direction from my knowledge of places to look for pioneering, melodic and not to avant garde(out there) that one could get into that is not accustomed to the genre, without having to sit in your closet to listen to it by yourself.

Anyway I enjoy it!

thanks for the tips fellows!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 14:31

"got stuck at 52, anyone have suggestions as to
which 2 to cut?"

I would cut out Michael Rother and Neu and file them with La Düsseldorf under Düsseldorf Rock (basically the same musicians)

two other lesserknown groups who did symphonic Rock :

Streetmark and Ramses



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 18:41
La Dusseldorf, theirs another strange omission from
the Prog Archives!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 18:56
Wow, a nice list. I only know Eloy from it and I love their "Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 19:14

Hi there.

I love Kraan,so I am happy to see them on the list.

Very nice list .I only know some of your list.

I love kraut.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 14:53
Where are Erlkonig, Try, My Solid Ground and Ikarus?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 15:16
Seriously, are all these records relevant and interesting in a musical sense? I mean, "Broselmaschine" ... I don't even know how to translate that to English. How about this: "Device which produces the stuff that falls from your mouth when you're eating donuts". Are these all milestones of prog music, or just records that you associate nice memories with?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:29

if you check my list of the 50 best from england these albums are equal in everyway from 1-50, IMO, and im not a fan of foreign lyrics or bad english german bands. Most are instrumental and the germans were able to take the MUSIC beyond what the british did, hindered musically by the lyrics, though equal as lyrics play a part in my and most peoples interest along with the artists musical talents.

something like that I havent slept in over 2 days!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:31
Only heard tiny bits and pieces from that list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2005 at 17:27

Just three tops to me:

Grobschnitt - "Solar Music"

Eloy - "The Ocean"

Triumvirat - "Illusions on a double dimple"

 

break the circle

reset my head

wake the sleepwalker

and i'll wake the dead
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