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Poll Question: What's your favorite live Genesis disc?
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    Posted: August 21 2006 at 21:20
I still have to go with Three Sides Live. Listened to it today and the sound still floors me. Of course, I haven't heard Genesis Live yet; however, everything on here sounds superb. Seconds Out is second.

I'll be surprised if The Way We Walk series gets a vote, but thought I'd put them on for giggles.

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Seconds Out for me. Collins does a very good job in singing the classic Genesis.


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hmmm.... none of these really did anything for me... Genesis Live could have been if expanded out to match the great live albums their contemporaries did...good set list... but not enough music..  it gets my vote for The Knife
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Three Sides Live gets my vote,the sound on that album is superb.Genesis Live is a close second,some of the songs on there sound better than the studio versions,imo,especially Return of the Giant Hogweed.


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I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.

Still, my favorite out of those is Genesis Live if only for The Knife which sounds different from the studio version.

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Get The Archives, especially DISC 3... that has the best live stuff!
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Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.
 
Are you serious? I mean... I never saw them live personally, but the recorded stuff I've heard shows lots of interesting changes to old songs. Medleys as on Three Sides or the Duke Suite from the respective tour, the improved jam on 'The Waiting Room' from the Archives volume 1, dueling drum solos on 'Dance on a Volcano', and I feel that certain solos such as the keyboard solo in the Apocolypse section of Supper's Ready on Second's Out are much better than on the album. I love live Genesis!


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I'll go with Genesis Live
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Live, it's amazing.
 
But please nobody mentions Archives I The Gabriel Years?? It's a live album and with Supper's Ready.
 
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Originally posted by Solids2k Solids2k wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.
 
Are you serious? I mean... I never saw them live personally, but the recorded stuff I've heard shows lots of interesting changes to old songs. Medleys as on Three Sides or the Duke Suite from the respective tour, the improved jam on 'The Waiting Room' from the Archives volume 1, dueling drum solos on 'Dance on a Volcano', and I feel that certain solos such as the keyboard solo in the Apocolypse section of Supper's Ready on Second's Out are much better than on the album. I love live Genesis!


I'm not kidding. I'm aware of these changes but I prefer my live albums to be totally different from the studio albums. Genesis' live medleys could be cool but I just don't like 'em. I usually prefer the whole songs. Plus, they seem to make medleys out of some of their best songs. I agree on the duelling drum solos on Los Endos though. That is pretty cool. Otherwise, other major prog bands leaves Genesis in the dust in the Live department IMO.

Don't get me wrong though. Genesis is one of my favorite bands.


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hmmm.... none of these really did anything for me... Genesis Live could have been if expanded out to match the great live albums their contemporaries did...good set list... but not enough music..  it gets my vote for The Knife
 
Genesis Live was recorded to be a double Live album with Supper's Ready and Fountain of Salmacis plus Twilight Alehouse or Happy the Man (Not sure which one of the last two or if the two).
 
As a fact there's a Dutch double album that was sent by the band to radios and selected persons but at the end the label didn't wanted to take the risk and reduced it to a single.
 
Quote It is well-known that when the Genesis live album was finally released in 1973 that it was a single LP. It was also amazing that the best and most ambitious track Supper's Ready was not included. For many years, rumors surfaced that a double-LP version was leaked as a test pressing on the Dutch Philips label. However, none had ever been seen. Bootlegs claiming to be copies of these test pressings were eventually made, but the test pressings themselves were almost impossible to find. Some say between 20 and 50 copies were pressed, but to this day I have only heard of about 7.
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Live, it's amazing.
 

But please nobody mentions Archives I The Gabriel Years?? It's a live album and with Supper's Ready.

 

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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Live, it's amazing.
 

But please nobody mentions Archives I The Gabriel Years?? It's a live album and with Supper's Ready.

 

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I was not aware of this (hangs head in shame ). How is the quality?
 
The quality is very good, the problem for purists is that Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett overdubbed some parts of it before releasing it in 1998, I believe Peter sung part of Supper's Ready and some sections from The Lamb that had inferior quality in the original tapes.
 
It's worth to get it.
 
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Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:



Originally posted by Solids2k Solids2k wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.

 

Are you serious? I mean... I never saw them live personally, but the recorded stuff I've heard shows lots of interesting changes to old songs. Medleys as on Three Sides or the Duke Suite from the respective tour, the improved jam on 'The Waiting Room' from the Archives volume 1, dueling drum solos on 'Dance on a Volcano', and I feel that certain solos such as the keyboard solo in the Apocolypse section of Supper's Ready on Second's Out are much better than on the album. I love live Genesis!
I'm not kidding. I'm aware of these changes but I prefer my live albums to be totally different from the studio albums. Genesis' live medleys could be cool but I just don't like 'em. I usually prefer the whole songs. Plus, they seem to make medleys out of some of their best songs. I agree on the duelling drum solos on Los Endos though. That is pretty cool. Otherwise, other major prog bands leaves Genesis in the dust in the Live department IMO.Don't get me wrong though. Genesis is one of my favorite bands.


I have to agree about the medleys. Not a big fan of them. They can be interesting, but I prefer the whole songs. The last time I saw them, they only played the classic stuff in medley form. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.

I like "Genesis Live," but the sound is a bit muted, and it leaves you with a feeling of being unfinished. "Seconds Out" is a much more comprehensive album, and the performances are very good. You also get the bonus of Bill Bruford.

By the way, is there a remaster of "Live" available?
    
    
    

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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:



Originally posted by Solids2k Solids2k wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.

 

Are you serious? I mean... I never saw them live personally, but the recorded stuff I've heard shows lots of interesting changes to old songs. Medleys as on Three Sides or the Duke Suite from the respective tour, the improved jam on 'The Waiting Room' from the Archives volume 1, dueling drum solos on 'Dance on a Volcano', and I feel that certain solos such as the keyboard solo in the Apocolypse section of Supper's Ready on Second's Out are much better than on the album. I love live Genesis!
I'm not kidding. I'm aware of these changes but I prefer my live albums to be totally different from the studio albums. Genesis' live medleys could be cool but I just don't like 'em. I usually prefer the whole songs. Plus, they seem to make medleys out of some of their best songs. I agree on the duelling drum solos on Los Endos though. That is pretty cool. Otherwise, other major prog bands leaves Genesis in the dust in the Live department IMO.Don't get me wrong though. Genesis is one of my favorite bands.


I have to agree about the medleys. Not a big fan of them. They can be interesting, but I prefer the whole songs. The last time I saw them, they only played the classic stuff in medley form. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.

I like "Genesis Live," but the sound is a bit muted, and it leaves you with a feeling of being unfinished. "Seconds Out" is a much more comprehensive album, and the performances are very good. You also get the bonus of Bill Bruford.

By the way, is there a remaster of "Live" available?
    
    
    


Only the 1994 Definitive Edition, I believe.
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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:



Originally posted by Solids2k Solids2k wrote:

Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

I don't really like Genesis playing live. Their live sets offer no improvisations or real changes in their songs. The only live experience we get is when Peter talks between the numbers.

 

Are you serious? I mean... I never saw them live personally, but the recorded stuff I've heard shows lots of interesting changes to old songs. Medleys as on Three Sides or the Duke Suite from the respective tour, the improved jam on 'The Waiting Room' from the Archives volume 1, dueling drum solos on 'Dance on a Volcano', and I feel that certain solos such as the keyboard solo in the Apocolypse section of Supper's Ready on Second's Out are much better than on the album. I love live Genesis!
I'm not kidding. I'm aware of these changes but I prefer my live albums to be totally different from the studio albums. Genesis' live medleys could be cool but I just don't like 'em. I usually prefer the whole songs. Plus, they seem to make medleys out of some of their best songs. I agree on the duelling drum solos on Los Endos though. That is pretty cool. Otherwise, other major prog bands leaves Genesis in the dust in the Live department IMO.Don't get me wrong though. Genesis is one of my favorite bands.


I have to agree about the medleys. Not a big fan of them. They can be interesting, but I prefer the whole songs. The last time I saw them, they only played the classic stuff in medley form. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.

I like "Genesis Live," but the sound is a bit muted, and it leaves you with a feeling of being unfinished. "Seconds Out" is a much more comprehensive album, and the performances are very good. You also get the bonus of Bill Bruford.

By the way, is there a remaster of "Live" available?
    
    


I believe he only plays the drums in The Cinema Show so that isn't much of a bonus Wink

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What, no Archive 67-75 Discs 1-3?

Genesis Live for me. Better song selection, better vocals, etc.
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I said Genesis Live, but my vote really lies with a couple of boots from about 70-74.

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Seconds out for me but the live tracks on the archive are great!
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