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    Posted: September 04 2006 at 14:03
    So I was thinking...

Everyone knows of the 70s "Big 6" (KC, Floyd, Tull, Genesis, Yes, ELP)...but that prog era has long since past.

I was wondering which bands currently hold the prog reins for the New Big 6. Which bands are sucessful enough commerically to be considered "Big", and innovative enough to be considered something new and large? Which modern bands are the New Big 6?

Now, I know of four that shouldn't be denied a title in this little competition:
-Porcupine Tree
-The Mars Volta
-Radiohead
-Tool

But that leaves two other spots open (unless there is only a Big 4 this era???). Which bands do you guys/girls think carry the prog title well enough while being commercailly large enough to be considered big and innovative enough to "belong" to this era?

Which bands do you think qualify to be the New Big 6?
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Cool topic. Thumbs Up 

Those four are on my list, and I'll add Opeth.
 
6th: Probably Sigur Ros, or GSYBE


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Innovative basically excludes DT, Neo-Prog and Retro Symph bands.

The 4 on your list are original enough and also extremely popular to make the list, Opeth, as suggested above, is another neccessity. Riverside is also immensely popular, as I notice, so their inclusion would make sense too.
 
I would mention Kayo Dot myself, but their commercial success is close to non-existent, so that excludes them according to your definition as well.
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   I agree with including Riverside.
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Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Innovative basically excludes DT



Confused DT basically invented prog metal next to Fate's Warning and Queensryche. If that's not innovative, i'd like to hear your definition.
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Yeah, I don't really care how popular certain prog bands are, because stuff like Tool, TMV and Radiohead don't deserve all the ass-kissing they get. If I was going to make a list of new bands that I thought were actually important to the prog scene or something, though, it'd probably include more bands on par with:

-Dream Theater
-Opeth
-Porcupine Tree
-Pain of Salvation

And maybe some Sigur Ros, GYBE, Explosions in the Sky, etc.


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Although I'm not a fan of DT, they probably deserve a spot.
 
So my new list would be:
 
-Porcupine Tree
-The Mars Volta
-Radiohead
-Tool
-DT
Opeth
 
Honorable mentions:
 
-Sigur Ros
-GSYBE
-Riverside
 
 
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Marillion
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The Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree
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I would say

-Dream Theater
-Tool
-Pain of Salvation
-Porcupine Tree
-GYBE
-The Mars Volta
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1.DT
2.Tool
3.Porcupine Tree
4.Opeth
5.Pain Of Salvation
6.The Mars Volta
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-Radiohead
-Mars Volta
-Porcupine Tree
-Pure Reason Revolution
-Tool
-Opeth
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     Well, I think that no one has mentioned Anglagard, Anekdoten, Far Corner, Zaar, and I think they have to be there....
     I think it's because I see a lot of Prog Metal bands (almost all), and that's it's not the only new prog put there. Obviusly Metal is one of the new prog genres (despite I don't like it), but there are more genres out there. And I think that RIO is a genre that is still growing up and maybe is one of the most innovative out there. But It's just my opinionEmbarrassedEmbarrassed.  Just try listening those!!

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mmm...lets see, would you incluide bands that are not longer playing? As Anglagard? Cause if so...

Tool
Dream Theater
Porcupine Tree
Anglagard
The Mars Volta
Opeth

And if not, then Pain of Salvation


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Pain of Salvation
The Mars Volta
The Flower Kings
Spock's Beard
Dream Theater
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Dream Theater

POS

Tool

Opeth

Riverside

Flower Kings



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DT
Tool
Mr. Bungle
The Mars Volta
PoS
Dredg

Most innovative of the bunch. Modern symphonic isn't innovative at all and always was secont-rank stuff for me.
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If its from a combination of inovation and comercial succes then:
 
Dream Theater
Tool
Porcupine Tree
Flower Kings
Marillion
Radiohead
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Well, prog bands don't often get commerical success these days. So fitting the criteria it ould be something like this:

The Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Opeth, Tool, Radiohead, Porcupine Tree (Coheed is a pending inclusion, because there's controversy over their status)
 
I don't necessarily agree that they should be the "Big 6,"  but they are the obvious choices for innovation and success. I also personally think prog music has expanded so much since the 70s, that there can't be a 6 band limit for this "Big" group.
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My personal choices:

1. The Mars Volta
2. Taal
3. Pure Reason Revolution
4. Porcupine Tree
5. Muse
6. Tool


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I'd say the Modern Big 6 are:

Tool
Dream Theater
Spock's Beard
The Mars Volta
Porcupine Tree
The Flower Kings

I'd like to give Radiohead a spot, but I don't feel that they are as progressive as the above.
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