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Poll Question: Nominate one piece and vote for three
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    Posted: October 30 2021 at 05:06
Been busy with work after vacation. I finally listened to all the nominees, and it looks like I am a front-runner as my votes went to three leading tracks.

Wim Mertens
Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble
Silver Mt. Zion

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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Thank you to everyone for your contributions to this poll, and for those who have voted for "Wiigenlied".

I will try to vote one of the following days, but I will probably skip the next poll. I have been busy recording my own music during the past few weeks, and I will continue to do so for the next time. The ideas are really taking off, so I have my mind focused mainly on that.

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Kees, thanks a lot for your recommendations! I overlooked the post because the new poll had meanwhile already started. I decided to begin with your favourite album by Silver Mt. Zion which should encourage me to go through their other material. I'll give you some feedback soon! Smile


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2021 at 06:53
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

And here are my votes:

Silver Mt. Zion: Sow Some Lonesome Corner So Many Flowers Bloom

I am not familiar with recent developments in progrock which makes it difficult for me to comment on this piece but what I can say is that this piece aroused my interest to dig deeper, starting with this band and Godspeed You! Black Emperor. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Thank you, Mila. As I said, I think A Silver Mt. Zion is my preferred post-rock group and my personal favourite album is Born Into Trouble As The Sparks Fly Upwards (although I must admit that it took some time to get used to the rather discomforting singing style of Efrim Menuck, but it fits the music!). Regarding Godspeed You! Black Emperor my favourite is probably Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven, but for both bands I would suggest that you just take them in chronological order.... In my opinion there is no real weak one in their respective album runs.

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I am lagging behind, once again. This time it was particularly difficult to make a decision given this musical variety and quality. Many thanks to all of you!

And here are my votes:

Silver Mt. Zion: Sow Some Lonesome Corner So Many Flowers Bloom

I am not familiar with recent developments in progrock which makes it difficult for me to comment on this piece but what I can say is that this piece aroused my interest to dig deeper, starting with this band and Godspeed You! Black Emperor. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Wim Mertens: Maximising the Audience

Phoenix: Mugur de Fluier
Comments, see above.

Honorable mentions:

Mediaeval Bæbes: Memorare

Per Nørgård: Wiigenlied

The Rolling Stones: You Can't Always Get What You Want (Prix Nostalgie) Wink

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I would like to thank all of you who appreciated my choice. And finally, a few words about the artist.

Damon Locks is a bandleader, composer, visual artist, educator and influential figure in Chicago's cultural communities. Locks has a long history in music - one of his earliest bands was the experimental rock and post-hardcore group Trenchmouth, formed in 1988 and featuring his friend Fred Armisen on drums. The Black Monument Ensemble is a recent project that began with Lock’s own sample-based creations, layering audio clips from Civil Rights Era speeches over programmed beats. It’s since expanded to include a four-piece band and a six-piece choir; a vibrant collective of artists, musicians, singers, and dancers making work with common goals of joy, compassion, and intention.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Mila-13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2021 at 14:40
I did a little research and found this interesting:

Krzysztof Penderecki: Agnus Dei

A composition for a mixed a capella chorus that Penderecki wrote to mark the death of Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński, a symbol of the spiritual resistance against the communist regime in Poland. He later included it as part of his Polish Requiem which he extended and rearranged several times. Agnus Dei was rearranged for eight cellos and first performed in the memorial service for Mstislav Rostropovich (cellist/conductor) in 2007 who conducted the first version of the requiem in the 1980s. I think it is worth hearing. I'm sorry but sometimes there is a problem with posting links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4tiPx_07hE

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Love reading the synopses!  Thanks to those who do have time. Smile
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First batch:

Roberto De Simone: Kyrie

A synergy of different musical styles, drawing on the liturgical music of the Middle Ages and contemporary music that could be linked to Pasolini and his time. An ambitious work that opens with Kyrie Eleison sung by a choir consisting of classically trained and traditional folk music singers. Quite intriguing and promising! The second part is a modern interpretation of Kyrie, a combination of blues rock and choral song which reminds me of popular rock operas/musicals such as Hair and Jesus Christ Superstar. This part is a little chaotic but overall an interesting piece of music, an homage to an artist who made Italy great in the world. What a challenge!

Per Nørgård: Wiigenlied

Contemporary and experimental choral music that is equally challenging and fun for both, the singers, and the audience. A quite restless lullaby, though. lol

Ennio Morricone: Dies Irae

I’m quite familiar with Morricone’s work but I wasn’t aware of this film score where he deals with religious themes. To discover new facets of a known artist is always fascinating!

Wim Mertens: Maximising the Audience

Known for his sophisticated avant-garde work Mertens manages to win my heart with this melodic composition for ensemble which reminds me to some extent of certain parts of Philip Glass’ iconic Songs of Liquid.

Phoenix: Mugur de Fluier

A truly beautiful folk-rock tune, with harmoniously integrated choral singing. Folk music is an almost endless source of inspiration and gives the music authenticity and uniqueness.

Mediaeval Bæbes: Memorare 

Medieval music, what an original choice! This music captivates with its simplicity and timeless beauty. The female voices are delicate and powerful at the same time and sound so fresh and youthful!

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I’m only halfway through the line-up and I'm clueless how to vote. Initially I was a bit sceptical in respect of this quite specific theme and am now all the more pleasantly surprised by the musical variety. Well done guys! Smile




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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Thank you, Mike!  I had the pleasure of seeing them play at the Maryland Renaissance Festival back in 2009.  Just fantastic!

I was quite impressed with their simplicity, yet there was something very different about their delivery that I found intriguing.  I haven't been able to put my finger on it yet, but they definitely hit something in me that really made me take notice.  Quite beautiful.
  Charlie Cawood, who I brought to the lesser-known prog poll, also plays with them.  He does a lot of session work with people requiring unusual instruments. 
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Thank you, Mike!  I had the pleasure of seeing them play at the Maryland Renaissance Festival back in 2009.  Just fantastic!

I was quite impressed with their simplicity, yet there was something very different about their delivery that I found intriguing.  I haven't been able to put my finger on it yet, but they definitely hit something in me that really made me take notice.  Quite beautiful.

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Thank you for this poll, Anders.  Real life does come first and music, especially!  Strike while the creative juices are flowing!  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2021 at 16:30
Thank you to everyone for your contributions to this poll, and for those who have voted for "Wiigenlied".

I will try to vote one of the following days, but I will probably skip the next poll. I have been busy recording my own music during the past few weeks, and I will continue to do so for the next time. The ideas are really taking off, so I have my mind focused mainly on that.
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Thank you, Mike!  I had the pleasure of seeing them play at the Maryland Renaissance Festival back in 2009.  Just fantastic!
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Here are my favorites:

1. Mediaeval Bæbes - Memorare
2. Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble - Now
3. Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience

Silver Mt. Zion is already one of my favorite bands.  It would have won my vote if I wasn't already familiar with their music (I have 3 of their albums on vinyl).  

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Surprisingly this rather exotic theme has far more bands and musicians that I knew already than many others, although I didn't know most of their posted tracks.

There are also a number of tracks that have potential but that probably need more and more intensive listens so that I could appreciate them fully, particularly Norgard and Penderecki.

In the mix are:
Roberto de Simone
Ennio Morricone
Medieval Baebes
Bulgarian State Choir
Damon Locks
Silver Mt. Zion

I have heard a good number of things from the Medieval Baebes and the Bulgarian Voices, not all of them with full concentration, and I may actually have heard one or both of these. I like them a lot, but I'll vote for things that are more of a discovery; despite knowing Ennio Morricone and Silver Mt. Zion, these tracks to me have more "novelty value". Ultimately I'll give the fourth place to Ennio Morricone, as it fits my mood of the day less than the top three, although I do realise that this is quite good (as are the Norgard and Penderecki pieces, just not fitting the mood).

The Roberto de Simone track brings its very different elements together in fascinating ways; not the most subtle of attractions but a real experience. The Silver Mt. Zion track has a good post rock flow and dynamic to it, which I'm known to appreciate, but is compositionally more sophisticated than what you normally get from that genre, and therefore makes for great listening. And as apparently many others I'm bewitched by the hypnotic Black Monument Ensemble.

But really, every track has something valuable that makes it deserve more listens! And I also should take the time to go through some more of the non-nominated suggestions... only heard a small handful...


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my three choices

Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience
Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble - Now
Premiata Forneria Marconi - L'Isola di Niente
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Finally had the time to listen to the playlist. Just one listen, but it'll have to do with that. No commenting from me this time, straight on to my votes, and for these I was looking for those that sounded the most original to my ears (and were not known already):

1. Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble - Now; without hesitation, this one ended up on top of all - original, engaging (and engaged) and really captivating.
2. Per Nørgård – Wiigenlied; some classic touches in an overall very modern take on choir music - surprisingly refreshing.
3. Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae; I've seen the film by Damiano Damiani a long while ago, but didn't remember the music - well, it's Morricone...



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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 

But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.

It does look as though the film is quite moving, something I would enjoy seeing sometime.  As always, this was a terribly hard thing to decide on a top 3 for me, and even those might end up in different orders or altogether elsewhere on another day.  Such is music and the emotions.

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 


I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 


But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.

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Many thanks to The Anders, for the theme and being conductor; to Lorenzo for the creation; and to George for the playlist!ClapClapClap

Here are my Top Three for this round:

1.        Mila:  I just fell in love with this one.  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoW, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊 IF SHE’D CHOSEN:  Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble “Songs of Ascension” 

  2.        Kees:  I also fell in love with this one, fickle me.  But the never having heard quite the like of Mila's gave it second place for me.  Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir “Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom”  Counting out starts this one, it sounds like it’s in a big building, like a dance rehearsal.  Single notes of guitar step into the room, building a feeling of tension, then some layered male and female vocals create a choir sound.    There are some delicate little “plings,” here and there, subtle in the mix.  Male voices come to the fore in a kind of chant and also a round.  The women join in again, similarly to what the chanting/round thing is doing, yet different.  An orchestral swell now are in play, in a ascendant sound.  Single guitar notes with a bell-like sound, then some lush synth shimmers in and out, with some bowed type sounds, then becomes an echoed violin (although it may be being done with effects on another instrument), there are subtle fluted noises also.  Just gorgeous! Melancholy string sounds play with some orchestral hits (horns?) and drums.  The piece slowly fades to it’s end.  I expected a journey and I got one.  Well-done, Kees! *Note:  Sorry for the formatting glitch. 

3.        Christian: A third love, here is a more classical bent from my other choices.  Wim Mertens “Maximizing the Audience”  Solo piano, then cello added.  I already quite like this, for it’s more spare tone.  A more strident sense comes in for just a moment, then becomes contemplative again.  The vocals are all female, richly sung.  Smaller bowed instruments enter now, and the piece moves into a beautiful melody with all of the instrumentation.  A feeling of the tragic to my ear.  So far this is my favourite piece of all, perhaps not unsurprisingly.  I love watching the musician’s joy in the performance.  The pace begins to gallop along a bit, I get the feeling something new is about to happen in it.  The women rejoin, still rich, this now reminds me of mountain traveling, the curving road beneath and the icy summits above.  The pianist add his vocal and soars and swirls around the chorus.  The song builds to a majestic climactic ending.  Just lovely! IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby” 

All of these entered the fray most closely in the battle to win me over, here are my 

Honourable Mentions:

George:  Bulgarian State Television Female Choir “Pilentze Pee”  IF HE’D CHOSEN:  VAST “Touched” or  Zap Mama “Rafiki” 

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

Mike:  Krzysztof Penderecki “Agnus Dei”

Cristi:  Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier” 

SuperMetro:  PFM “L’Isola di Niente” 

also, if Greg had chosen:  

Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem”  



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