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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2016 at 01:33
...but a rose is a rose is a rose........
Just finished LegEnd. Citizen King is a work of art - beautiful organ on this one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2016 at 01:13
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

  Looks like I'm going to spin LegEnd real soon once again.
I may have to (eventually) get a hold of these commemorative box sets. I generally stick with vinyl, but somehow I don't think that these things will get that treatment. The 5 HC albums alone are still so exciting to me, every time.

Haha, I was thinking the same thing, I was wanting to spin LegEnd today, too! Smile And as to the box sets, do yourself a favor. The first boxset in particular is a work of art and is equal to their best albums really. I mean really. It's nearly as good as LegEnd. It kind of feels like an extension of LegEnd in a way that the studio release presented just the best bits and on the boxset, you've got full composition and you can sort of get an idea of how they used some of ideas, passages from pieces that eventually did not make it into their debut album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2016 at 00:00
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Kew. Rhone. is superb.

Oh, I spun side 4 of HC Concerts - they sound in top form, and no doubt enjoying themselves a lot. I'm just fascinated with Tim's organ playing.
 


Actually, the slow fade on 'Udine' annoys me as it sounds like Tim is letting rip at that point!
Yes, yes indeed - I noticed that too And you're so right - definitely a Farfisa Compact Duo - his sound in Groningen (where he plays a brief theme from Heart Of The Beast) is the same 'reedy' sound Rick Wright usually has. Small details like this mean so much to me with HC. Looks like I'm going to spin LegEnd real soon once again.
I may have to (eventually) get a hold of these commemorative box sets. I generally stick with vinyl, but somehow I don't think that these things will get that treatment. The 5 HC albums alone are still so exciting to me, every time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 12:57
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm in here reading but the depth of knowledge means I have little to add, I am enjoying it . Keep it up.

Basically me as well. All I can add is slobbering praise and heaping adulation, but it is by no means worthy of the legitimately interesting conversations going on here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 08:37
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Kew. Rhone. is superb.

Oh, I spun side 4 of HC Concerts - they sound in top form, and no doubt enjoying themselves a lot. I'm just fascinated with Tim's organ playing.
 


Actually, the slow fade on 'Udine' annoys me as it sounds like Tim is letting rip at that point!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 08:20
Glad that there are actually five of us! LOL No, honestly, I really appreciate you are here and read and learn and share love for the phenomenal band that Henry Cow was!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 07:51
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

One of my favourite ever songs was the first result of the Greaves/Blegvad partnership: 'Bad Alchemy' off Desperate Straights

And I'm guessing it's Blegvad who is responsible for that off-beat muted chord lick that occurs in both "Apricot" from Kew. Rhone. and "Bad Alchemy."

Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

It's just three of us really, for about 4 or 5 pages. I bet nobody besides me, you, and Tom Ozric reads the thread. 

Humph!!!
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I'm in here reading but the depth of knowledge means I have little to add, I am enjoying it and revisit DEsperanto Straights today. Keep it up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 06:42
Kew. Rhone. is superb.
Sheez, just looking at some odd related LP's I have - there's a John Greaves solo from 1982 called 'Accident'. Quite a strange, experimental New-Wave thing with an impressive guest-list.
Then there's French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson's album 'Live, Love, Larf and Loaf'. A very clever and quite fun album - their take on Surfin' U.S.A. is quite a blast.
I was really fortunate to have scored a beauty in Frith's 'Speechless' album. Side 1 is Frith with Etron Fou Leloublan, and side 2 with Massacre. It cost me 2 bucks. All great stuff.
Oh, I spun side 4 of HC Concerts - they sound in top form, and no doubt enjoying themselves a lot. I'm just fascinated with Tim's organ playing.
I've not met anyone yet who digs HC - a friend of mine one bought a copy of LegEnd at my insistance, and liked it for a few months then ditched it.
I guess we're always up for discussing about these phenomenal bands and musicians.
I can go off and listen to Meshuggah for days, and maybe go on a Kajagoogoo bender, but I'll always return to Canterbury
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 06:17
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

I think Wyatt and Greaves are good friends - BTW have you heard Greaves singing a cover of 'Beautiful as the Moon' on the Alain Blesing album?

No! Shocked I'm checking it out as we speak.

Funny we are talking about Henry Cow appreciation society as a thing. It's just three of us really, for about 4 or 5 pages. I bet nobody besides me, you, and Tom Ozric reads the thread. Tongue
But it's just plain fun talking to other like-minded listeners! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 06:10
I think Wyatt and Greaves are good friends - BTW have you heard Greaves singing a cover of 'Beautiful as the Moon' on the Alain Blesing album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 06:06
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

Not to worrySmile  I think its great to be in touch with other Henry Cow fans.  Out of all my friends, I only know of one other I would call a fellow fan, and maybe two more that think they are OK/appreciate their music.  Kew. Rhone was one of those albums I didn't buy at the time (buying vinyl was expensive business as a teenager) and so I didn't get to hear it until many years later.

Robert Wyatt allegedly bought two copies, as he was afraid he might damage such a masterpiece. He has admitted to really liking Kew. Rhone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 05:59
Not to worrySmile  I think its great to be in touch with other Henry Cow fans.  Out of all my friends, I only know of one other I would call a fellow fan, and maybe two more that think they are OK/appreciate their music.  Kew. Rhone was one of those albums I didn't buy at the time (buying vinyl was expensive business as a teenager) and so I didn't get to hear it until many years later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 05:54
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

I am not sure I would totally agree with the analysis of Kew. Rhone. although it is a great album and a lost classic.  In terms of musical settings, to me at least, it sounds closer to Slapp Happy unsurprisingly, but more complex and closer to jazz in arrangements (not surprising given Bley/Mantler's involvement - but would agree 'Half Asleep Half Awake' provides an antecedent).  One of my favourite ever songs was the first result of the Greaves/Blegvad partnership: 'Bad Alchemy' off Desperate Straights.  I once put that on a pub juke-box and chuckled as the room started to empty...

Well, it was my second or third listen, so bear in mind that my analisys might have been misguided.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 05:47
I am not sure I would totally agree with the analysis of Kew. Rhone. although it is a great album and a lost classic.  In terms of musical settings, to me at least, it sounds closer to Slapp Happy unsurprisingly, but more complex and closer to jazz in arrangements (not surprising given Bley/Mantler's involvement - but would agree 'Half Asleep Half Awake' provides an antecedent).  One of my favourite ever songs was the first result of the Greaves/Blegvad partnership: 'Bad Alchemy' off Desperate Straights.  I once put that on a pub juke-box and chuckled as the room started to empty...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 03:21
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Just spun Unrest. Another great album. There's some 'grating' sounds in Ruins that cut right through the soundscape - I think Tim's just about blown his organ up
John Greaves is a fantastic bassist.


I am listening to John Greaves' 1977 work Kew. Rhone. as we speak and it really is a testimony for how much of Henry Cow's early sound he was responsible for. A very complex album, but highly recommended, a bit like a crossover between Unrest and In Praise with Robert Wyatt-esque arrangements. Peter Blegvad plays guitar there and is responsible for the lyrics. There is also a female singer, Lisa Herman, whose voice is similar to Dag's, but also has something of The Northettes.

Next up, disc 1 of the 40th Anniversary Box Set LOLLOL Man, I love those recordings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 03:03
Just spun Unrest. Another great album. There's some 'grating' sounds in Ruins that cut right through the soundscape - I think Tim's just about blown his organ up
John Greaves is a fantastic bassist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2016 at 00:58
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

LegEnd is a Canterbury sounding album in my books !! The other albums not.
Gosh, I love the debut......

Yes, Legend is without a doubt a classic Canterbury scene album. Not only by the sound, but by the circles Henry Cow were in during the period. Unrest does have some slight elements of Canterbury sound, namely on "Half Asleep Half Awake". But, yes, I also love Legend. It's probably one of my Top 5 albums. A masterwork.

When one listens to the first CD of the box set, you can see how many ideas the band wanted to transport to their debut album (for which they had limitations as to time). For example, "Excerpt from With the Yellow Half Moon and Blue Star" is actually an excerpt, not a piece by itself. It is really unbelieveable how twenty-something year-olds could be so intelligent and create something so intricate and complex.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2016 at 13:52
LegEnd is a Canterbury sounding album in my books !! The other albums not.
Gosh, I love the debut......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2016 at 10:21
I also forgot to mention that Henry Cow are without a doubt responsible for some of the coolest track titles ever if you ask me. "Nirvana For Mice", "With the Yellow Half Moon and Blue Star", "Guider Tells Of Silent Airborne Machine", "Cycling Over the Cliff", "Upon Entering The Hotel Adlon", "Bittern Storm Over Ulm", "Cafe Royal", "Off the Map", "Keeping It Warm in Winter" just to name a few.

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