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Philéas 
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 Posted: July 29 2006 at 13:10 |
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If their music is tron-drenched, that's another good reason for me to
go discover BJH as soon as possible... What album should I start with?
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: July 29 2006 at 12:02 |
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I love short drops of choir-Mellotron, so impressive and it lifts the music to an extra dimension like Greenslade on Tide or The Strawbs on Down By The Sea
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Joolz
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 11:23 |
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Absolutely agree, no argument there. One of my all-time favourite records is BJH Live (1974), due in large part to being smothered in Tron [even though some of it had to be overdubbed because the Tron had a sterminated]. My point was with Banks, there is that extra dimension of anticipation which you don't have if it's there all the time. |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 10:05 |
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That's a dilemma, Joolz: as a Tronmaniac I want to hear floods of Trons but too much Tron drenched (like Druid on their second album) does harm the quality of the composition. In my opinion The Strawbs and Barclay James Harvest were masters in fllooding with Trons but without harming the quality of the compositions
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Joolz
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 08:21 |
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Yeah, and he's not on the Tron all the time like Mike Pinder - this means it has much more impact when it does come in - eg its appearances during Dancing Out With The Moonlit Knight are real goosebump moments |
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: July 29 2006 at 04:30 |
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A few years ago I read an article in a keyboard magazine, it told about Tony Banks his technique. The author was very positive about Tony Banks, he said Tony is not so omnipresent and self-indulgent like Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman but the way he plays both Hammond and Mellotron was on a very high level in the Gabriel-Genesis-era, that is a huge compliment
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ldlanberg
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 23:29 |
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It gets a big hand from me! Apparently the mellotron was conceived to mimick, perfectly, the sounds of an orchestra playing. That was the intention. But it couldn't simulate a real orchestra, perfectly.
Instead, it put out sounds quite different from a 'real' orchestra. Creative rock musicians capitalized on this difference.
Now, I'm not the biggest Tony Banks fan in the world. But Banks (Genesis) knew how to make the mellotron sound like something really big. Reference: Intro to "Watcher of the Skies" and, especially, many sections of A Trick of the Tail.
Compared to other mellotron players of the day, Banks' stuff did not simply sound like a person playing keys of the instrument -- it actually sounded like the entire sky crashing to the earth, then reforming again. That's what music is all about.
I'm surprised Tony's name is not as synonymous with the mellotron as, say, The Moody Blues' name is.
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micky
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:56 |
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hahahha.... roadies... the unappreciated powers behind the thrones...  |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:23 |
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The Mellotron caught fire ... incredible story, it reminds me of the early Genesis Mellotron that stopped just before a show. Tony Banks was desperate but finally a roadie removed the motor from of a dust cleaner to the Mellotron and ... end good, all good, the Mellotron worked again
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pierreolivier
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Joined: August 31 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 222 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:15 |
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Yes,ELP used it for 2 or 3 shows during the Trilogy tour in 1972.It was played by Greg Lake and was used for some sounds on "Abbandon's Bolero".The Greg Lake website use to have a photo of these shows where you clearly see the M400 in the background but they removed it.
 Apparently, the M400 caught fire after a couple shows and they deicided to remove it. |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 18:02 |
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Emerson hated the Mellotron (because it caused unemployement for classical musicians) but recently I noticed a picture from early ELP with a Mellotron M400 on stage ..
.. did he ever use it while being in ELP (he did in The Nice)? Edited by erik neuteboom - July 28 2006 at 18:03 |
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blazko
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Joined: July 07 2006 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 9 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:55 |
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Great instrument isn't it ? :):)
DJs should learn from giants like Emerson... Just a piece of tape and eight seconds of a sample could make a sound unforgetable... We'll never forget you... mellotron...:):) |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:28 |
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Indeed, Pierreolivier, the return of the giant Mellotron in the Nineties, I also read that The Red Hot Chili Peppers used it too
! About David Bowie: in my opinion there are two versions of Space Oddity, one with organ and one with Mellotron.
By the way, I own a bootleg DVD on which David Bowie himself plays on the Chamberlin.
About my photos from the Mellotron M400 I made: Tony R will help me to publish these photos, I hope you will be able to see it Sunday evening or Monday. Edited by erik neuteboom - July 28 2006 at 17:29 |
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pierreolivier
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:08 |
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Thanks for the compliment Erik!
 You know a lot about it too. Yes,Mellotrons were used a lot not only in prog field but in pop songs as well.Elton John used it in a lot of his 70's albums(the song "Daniel" with mellotron flute come to mind),Abba used it alot too before Benny Andersonn got his hand on a GX-1.David Bowie used it a lot on early recordings(Space Odditty)and use a Chamberlin on his "Low"album and others songs like "Ashes to Ashes"
The Brit-pop scene of the 90's bring back the Mellotron to it's glory.Bands like Oasis,Ocean Colour Scene,Mansun,Paul Weller,Pulp and The Charlatans used it a lot on theirs albums.Paul Weller actually own the old Steve Hackett black Novatron M400 and Noel Gallagher of Oasis own 2 machines,a Mark II SFX with musical tapes and a Mark VI.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 13:11 |
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In The Court Of The Crimson King Mellotron Mark II:
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A B Negative
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Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 11:27 |
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Fans of the 'tron sound should have a listen to Mellotropica by Syn (not to be confused with The Syn who feature Chris Squire).
It's very much in the style of 70s Berlin-school electronica (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze etc) and appears on his album Skyline.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 10:51 |
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Excellent, Joolz -
I WANT ONE! |
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Philéas
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Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:15 |
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Thank you Joolz!
 It was exactly the site I was referring to!
Edited by Philéas - July 28 2006 at 08:18 |
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Joolz
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:07 |
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Mellotron Mk VI  The Mellotron Mk VII  Website is HERE |
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Philéas
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Posted: July 28 2006 at 07:31 |
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I know the Memotron, but I saw a pic from the NAMM show this year, where some guy presented a newly manufactured Mellotron, with the right name and everything. I'll try to find it again. |
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A big hand for the MELLOTRON !!
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erik neuteboom wrote:
), I will give you more details or in the meantime perhaps others will do, a certain Pierreoliver seem to know a bit more about the Mighty Tron than the usual visitor here 
