The Motorsport Thread 2011

At last, we have something other than a Red Bull on poll thanks to Lewis, who seems to be driving like his old self again though he's certainly not saying much.

Pos	Country	Driver	Car	Team	Q1	Q2	Q3
1	great britain	Lewis Hamilton	3	McLaren-Mercedes	1:37.525	1:36.526	1:35.820
2	germany	Sebastian Vettel	1	Red Bull-Renault	1:39.093	1:37.285	1:36.042
3	great britain	Jenson Button	4	McLaren-Mercedes	1:37.929	1:37.302	1:36.126
4	australia	Mark Webber	2	Red Bull-Renault	1:39.071	1:37.292	1:36.468
5	brazil	Felipe Massa	6	Ferrari	1:38.670	1:37.313	1:36.831
6	spain	Fernando Alonso	5	Ferrari	1:38.393	1:37.352	1:36.980
7	germany	Nico Rosberg	8	Mercedes GP	1:38.426	1:37.892	1:37.754
8	russian federation	Vitaly Petrov	10	Renault	1:38.378	1:38.186	1:38.124
9	great britain	Paul Di Resta	15	Force India-Mercedes	1:38.549	1:38.254
10	germany	Adrian Sutil	14	Force India-Mercedes	1:38.789	1:38.219
11	spain	Jaime Alguersuari	19	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1:39.392	1:38.315
12	germany	Michael Schumacher	7	Mercedes GP	1:38.502	1:38.354
13	switzerland	Sebastien Buemi	18	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1:39.352	1:38.508
14	japan	Kamui Kobayashi	16	Sauber	1:39.464	1:38.775
15	brazil	Bruno Senna	9	Renault	1:39.316	1:38.791
16	venezuela	Pastor Maldonado	12	Williams-Cosworth	1:39.436	1:39.189
17	mexico	Sergio Perez	17	Sauber	1:39.097	1:39.443
18	brazil	Rubens Barrichello	11	Williams-Cosworth	1:39.538
19	finland	Heikki Kovalainen	20	Lotus-Renault	1:40.522
20	italy	Jarno Trulli	21	Lotus-Renault	1:41.101
21	germany	Timo Glock	24	Virgin-Cosworth	1:42.091
22	belgium	Jerome d'Ambrosio	25	Virgin-Cosworth	1:43.483
23	italy	Vitantonio Liuzzi	23	Hispania-Cosworth	1:43.758
24	australia	Daniel Ricciardo	22	Hispania-Cosworth

^I reckon its better than Schumacher, who in 02 and 04 had a huge car advantage over the field. The Red Bull is the fastest car out there most of the time, but in races its rarely been by much and he's even won a couple of races that he shouldnt have.

The big surprise for me is that in a year that one man has been so dominant the racing has been so damn good!

JJLehto wrote: Whew, suppose I've neglected this thread. Well...I believe I called this in race 3 despite the many cries from Sleeper of "gah cmon you know anything can happen" I accepted reality a while ago Congrats to Vettel. Great time but without doubt the best driver in the field now. Haters can hate, but just like Schumi let's not deny...in terms of flat out skill no one can touch him right now. Again, congrats to Vettel for his 2nd title and amazing year. 15 races: 9 wins, 12 poles, 14 podiums and there are still 4 races left! Can easily hit the 12 win mark for this season. My math may be a tad off but you get the idea: led 595 of 892 laps which is 66.7% and at one point it was 81% Just damn, helluva year Sebastian. Button seems to be the solid #2 though Ferrari looks like it has stepped up its sh*t and I expect Alonso to take it, at the very least have a tight battle to the very end. Hami does seem to be a bit off pace this season it's odd. Massa is quick still, but done. Kudos to Webber for his recent success but he's downslope as well. Really not deserving of a top ride, they should go to Kubica and Kam.

I think I gave up at Monaco, but Vettel's finally put the rest of them out of their misery, definitely the best driver this year.

Whew, suppose I've neglected this thread.

Well...I believe I called this in race 3 despite the many cries from Sleeper of "gah cmon you know anything can happen" I accepted reality a while ago
Congrats to Vettel. Great time but without doubt the best driver in the field now. Haters can hate, but just like Schumi let's not deny...in terms of flat out skill no one can touch him right now.

Again, congrats to Vettel for his 2nd title and amazing year.
15 races: 9 wins, 12 poles, 14 podiums and there are still 4 races left! Can easily hit the 12 win mark for this season.
My math may be a tad off but you get the idea: led 595 of 892 laps which is 66.7% and at one point it was 81%
Just damn, helluva year Sebastian.


Button seems to be the solid #2 though Ferrari looks like it has stepped up its sh*t and I expect Alonso to take it, at the very least have a tight battle to the very end.

Hami does seem to be a bit off pace this season it's odd.
Massa is quick still, but done. Kudos to Webber for his recent success but he's downslope as well. Really not deserving of a top ride, they should go to Kubica and Kam.


Edited by JJLehto - October 11 2011 at 02:47

Missing: The real Lewis Hamilton. The one who won the championship some years ago. He is now being outdriven by Jenson Button. A man not (yet !) rated in his same class. He is now left to race Massa while Jenson is racing Vettel and Alonso. Massa is a fallen star who should be miles behind Lewis. To watch Lewis now is really sad.  

Where the heck has Lewis Hamilton gone ? 

^That's one hell of a save!  That Kobayashi, crazy sonuva b!

Renault were better as just Renault.  The whole Lotus thing has made them less competitive.  On the flip side, Lotus have got better since the whole Renault Lotus thing. 

It wont happen, he's notinterested in putting in the time and effort for a 36 race season, and I'm not sure how he'd take to moving to America either.

James wrote: I somehow missed the Rosberg incident and the F1 Forum didn't work on my mate's Virgin Media package for some odd reason. And Lewis didn't do anything wrong.  It was a racing incident. Schumacher's was not a race incident but I think because he was the only one who suffered from it, there was no action taken. Hmm, Raikkonen in a Williams would be terrible.  Not because I don't want to see him return but because the Williams are so poor in quality at the moment.  Unless they have a fantastic car for next year. I'd like to see Hulkenberg back personally.

Stewarding seems worse than ever this year, how can lewis get a penalty for the smallest of mistakes, but Rosberg can shove Perez off track and get away scot free?