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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2011 at 16:05
^Sort of was a standard result but it was an incident packed race to get there. I feel that Button was the fastest guy out, certainly the only one that could have challenged Vettel for the win if he had started higher up than 13th. And I agree with you Torodd, he was a good driver in 09 (though too tense in qualy which cost him a bit in the second half of that year) but has really improved in the last two years having to go head to head with Hamilton. I think the only other driver on the grid that would be completely comfortable with acknowledging that Hamilton is faster over one lap and still be able to keep motivated and work hard to be fast in the race is Sutil (who had to do that when he was partnered with Hamilton in the F3 Euro series) but unlike Sutil I reckon Button is a match for Lewis on race pace.

Excellent race from Schuey, 24th to 5th is an exceptional result and hes really beginning to look like the driver of old.

Strange how Hamilton's car was so slow on straight line speed, there's no way that Koby's Sauber should have been able to come along side him whilst the McLaren had the DRS open, I expect that was the main cause of his crash.
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Well, missed the race and re play.
And I love Spa....
f**kin hurricane LOL

Well, no idea what happened but looks like a pretty standard points finish, Sutil in 7th but even that's not too ridiculous this year.
92 point lead for SV and the races are trickling down. We all know anything can happen but damn the hour glass is getting empty fast!
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Oh I really like Jenson.  I wasn't criticising him at all.

I just think if he'd qualified in the top 4, he'd not have won, due to his slower car.  Nothing to do with his ability.

He may have nabbed Webber and got 2nd but I think it was Vettel's race, unfortunately.
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No, Button is in a win-win situation and an absolute star. Far more now than when he won the title. He is the teammate in McLaren with a guy widely regarded as the best out there. And he is not getting slaughtered by his teammate as everybody thought he would be. Button is overtaking left right and centre. He is smart as a professor in a car (and reminds us about Prost) and is lightening fast when required.  

There was a lot of doubts about his credentials as world champ when he won the title. Not anylonger. His two years in Mclaren has validated his world champ status and proved the doubters wrong. Myself included. He has turned me from a doubter to an admirer.      

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Oh look.

Vettel and Webber.

Told you!  Haha.

An excellent race by Jenson though.  Also Schumacher did terrifically well.

I do have to ask though to you learned folk: do you think it's time they scrapped the qualifying tire rule?  Button and Schumacher took advantage of not reaching Q3 and it actually helped them somewhat.  Sure, maybe Button would have been challenging more without the terrible qualifying but seriously... he'd still have got 3rd I reckon.

Schumacher probably would have been there, or thereabouts too if he'd got to Q3.

I know teams won't do it but they could easily sacrifice Q3 just for the tire benefits.
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Maldonado is such a tit!

I cannot believe what he did.  Yes, Hamilton kind of pushed him a little earlier on in the qualifying to get the then fastest lap but it wasn't quite so dangerous and deliberate.

Of course, they have a past.  There was that coming together earlier in the season as well which was Hamilton's fault.  I just don't think they get on!

Poor Schumi too.  What on earth happened to his car?  It never was said on the BBC Qualifying show what exactly caused it.

I hope he makes up for it and gets a top 10 finish at least.  The Mercedes seem improved for this race too.

Senna looks fast.  Much better than Petrov.  I like Heidfeld though, so it's a bit conflicting for me... Heidfeld's beard and hair combo especially is a good thing.

And yep.  Button is getting bad luck again.  He must really be annoyed with life at the moment, despite the win at the last race.

Vettel or Webber will win.  Webber's looked quick throughout practice and qualifying.  Vettel not so much.


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Yeah, Senna has little experience and to come right out and put in such a good qualifying performance! I'm glad to finally see him, in decent equipment. To think he's already 27, what a late start!
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Maldonado gets 5 place penalty for deliberatly driving into Hamilton during qualy, lucky to still be in the race IMO.

Senna 7th on the grid, 1.2s faster than Petrov, and thats with forgetting to use the DRS on the run to Les Combes! And Alguesuari 6th and top Spanierd is very impressive.

Cant help feel bad for Button being told to pit after just the one lap at the end of Q2 and not take the last lap, I get the feeling he would have been on pole given the conditions.
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Stop the presses, Vettel on pole

Pos No Driver Constructor Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Grid
1 1 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 2:03.029 2:03.317 1:48.298 1
2 3 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 2:03.008 2:02.823 1:48.730 2
3 2 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 2:02.827 2:03.302 1:49.376 3
4 6 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari 2:05.834 2:04.507 1:50.256 4
5 8 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes 2:05.091 2:03.723 1:50.552 5
6 19 Spain Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2:05.419 2:04.561 1:50.773 6
7 9 Brazil Bruno Senna Renault 2:05.047 2:04.452 1:51.121 7
8 5 Spain Fernando Alonso Ferrari 2:04.450 2:02.768 1:51.251 8
9 17 Mexico Sergio Pérez Sauber-Ferrari 2:06.284 2:04.625 1:51.374 9
10 10 Russia Vitaly Petrov Renault 2:05.292 2:03.466 1:52.303 10
11 18 Switzerland Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2:04.744 2:04.692
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12 16 Japan Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 2:07.194 2:04.757
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13 4 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 2:01.813 2:05.150
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14 11 Brazil Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 2:05.720 2:07.349
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15 14 Germany Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 2:06.000 2:07.777
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16 12 Venezuela Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 2:05.621 2:08.106
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17 20 Finland Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 2:06.780 2:08.354
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18 15 United Kingdom Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 2:07.758

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19 21 Italy Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 2:08.773

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20 24 Germany Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:09.566

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107% time: 2:10.339
21 25 Belgium Jérôme d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 2:11.601

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22 23 Italy Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 2:11.616

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23 22 Australia Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 2:13.077

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24 7 Germany Michael Schumacher Mercedes no time

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Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

The man who Ayrton Senna once dubbed as faster and more talented than himself, has got the Lotus Renault drive.

I think that call for a cancellation of all Sunday's activities and some hours in the front of the TV. Clap

 



Cool to see! I've been waiting to watch Senna for years now, I was surprised he never got a ride earlier and then got put on whatever sh*tty team he was on LOL
Bruno on Renault is pretty exciting!

Also I havn't checked this thread in weeks and missed nothing Angry what's with this huge gap in the schedule?
Though at least it's time for Spa Big smile
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I'm certainly glad to see him back, I rate him to be at least as good as Petrov, though it may take a couple of races for it to show, I just hope he gets that much of a chance.
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The man who Ayrton Senna once dubbed as faster and more talented than himself, has got the Lotus Renault drive.

I think that call for a cancellation of all Sunday's activities and some hours in the front of the TV. Clap

 

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Could be interesting.

Although I'd like to see Gary Paffett given a drive soon!
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Bruno Senna in the same colours (read: racing car livery) as his uncle Ayrton Senna. People must go nuts over that.  
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Spa this weekend. Big news for the weekend is that it looks like Heidfeld is being dropped in favour of Senna. Its not been confirmed but the story comes from Eddie Jordan, which means its either a complete lload of rubbish or spot on.

I know the Renault bosses have been unhappy with Heidfeld this year as he just hasnt been fast enough, but the rumours I'd been reading about suggested they were going to wait until Romain Grosjean had wrapped up the GP2 and then put him in the car. Anyway, I'm very happy to see Senna back in a car, he's much better than what that HRT showed last year.
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I'll try and get more details.

Edit: here you go: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/forum/topic.php?id=2144


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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 15:45
^I've already signed 1 petition, and I'll certainly sign another if its for parliment. 
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There's apparently going be a petition out on Thursday re. Sky/BBC deal.

Sign it.

I think it needs 200,000 signatures to get discussed in parliament.  It might be 100,000... not sure.
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