The most progressive album by Yes.

emigre80 wrote: Dopeydoc wrote: Most crazy prog: Relayer Most classic prog: Close to the edge Most innovative prog: Fragile Most conceptual prog: Tales.... Most soft prog: Going for the one   This.

Relayer is crazy, bayyyyy-bee! It's out of sight!

BaldFriede wrote: Son.of.Tiresias wrote: For my senses there´s nothing progressive in relayer. I have always found it utterly dull and unbalanced and harsh sounding, the first time I heard sound chaser I burst out laughing. Still do. Actually a rather funny album     The mighty Soon section ? A typical brilliant Yes piece but feels like doesn´t quite belong there. I´d put it into Oceans instead. Without it that Moraz era album would have been a total disaster. Not his fault of course, he did the best he was allowed to contribute, and actually it´s totally irrelevant who plays keys there. Prog´s rock bottom nevertheless  The harsh sounding is essentially what makes it so progressive.

Son.of.Tiresias wrote: For my senses there´s nothing progressive in relayer. I have always found it utterly dull and unbalanced and harsh sounding, the first time I heard sound chaser I burst out laughing. Still do. Actually a rather funny album     The mighty Soon section ? A typical brilliant Yes piece but feels like doesn´t quite belong there. I´d put it into Oceans instead. Without it that Moraz era album would have been a total disaster. Not his fault of course, he did the best he was allowed to contribute, and actually it´s totally irrelevant who plays keys there. Prog´s rock bottom nevertheless

The harsh sounding is essentially what makes it so progressive.

Terrapin Station wrote: Honestly, for "most progressive," I'd probably say Fragile.  They were approaching everything in a literally experimental way on that album, deconstructing normal song structures, normal ways of approaching instrumental parts, exploring contrapuntal structures in odd ways, and they were willing to try any and eveything--throwing together all sorts of different genres, especially on the short solo tracks.

yeah I could see that.  My first inclination is to say Tales for the shear brass balls it took to do that album, a disaster in the waiting for any other group but in the end it was just some really A+ sympho sh*t.... 

while Tales might have been the album that pushed the boundaries of prog to its zenith,  as I often say, everything prog was worked itself up TO Tales.. everything after was downhill sylistically and it became a parody of itself (continued still today with all these f**king retro prog by teh numbers bands)

but musically...  yeah... I could see Fragile.

Honestly, for "most progressive," I'd probably say Fragile.  They were approaching everything in a literally experimental way on that album, deconstructing normal song structures, normal ways of approaching instrumental parts, exploring contrapuntal structures in odd ways, and they were willing to try any and eveything--throwing together all sorts of different genres, especially on the short solo tracks.

I was going to vote Oceans, but reading the above posts...i'm changing my mind and voting Close to the Edge :)

FRAGILE, TOPOGRAPHIC, RELAYER, DRAMA......................
.........no more. Yet why do I have 20 vinyls+ of theirs ??? (Not 90125 or the massive Generator....)

Tom Ozric wrote: Topographic. End of story

CTTE is the best, Relayer is the most progressive, TFTO is the most ambitious, The Yes Album was the most groundbreaking within its time and the group's own discography, Fragile is the ugly redheaded step-child that we let roam around doing odd things so that we don't seem like we're favoring the other children...

Oh, come on! It's Relayer, for crying out loud! Tales From Topographic Oceans?