Immediate Ruination of New Music?

Frenetic Zetetic wrote: Sterilized production.

indeed...

And 80's aesthetics and production values (gated drums, cheap synths, etc...) and 00's remaster conditions (loudness wars). I like my rock (and prog and jazz) to be somewhat dirty (as opposed to pristine production)

Whiny neo-prog/Hogarth styled vocals are also a big turn-off

I've lately commented a very similar situation ( there...)

Edited by jayem - August 03 2018 at 05:53

I am not so fussy over singing style or singing voice, though certain lyrical contents can irk me - If the music is strong enough you can ignore the voice and let it blend into the track. Phil Collins with Genesis is an example of this - though "More Fool Me" is fecking awful....

^ Thank you Davesax1965 and Logan for pointing out to me what's going on behind the rhetoric!

Pedro likes coming on and making comments about what it means to be an artist. 

Except he doesn't play.

wiz_d_kidd wrote: moshkito wrote: But really, since you and I are not doing it, why are we being critical about someone else doing it? Would you enjoy that comment? Being a practitioner of an art is not a requirement for liking or disliking someone else's output.

I'm just not moved, and it's not just music of "today" but since my birth (1982), horrible production, bad vocals, etc etc... The thing is, I've always tried to find something "new" just so I could look forward to a new album, or a concert.

Even when I find a song on here that I like, when I finally look into it, it's always from the 60s and 70s, and when I heard stuff I don't like, they seem to have been made in the last 30 years.

Just the way it is.. Fortunately, because of YouTube, I can stay away from that junk... I almost feel as strongly about music and comedy.


Edited by MortSahlFan - March 22 2018 at 14:30

Sterilized production.

Criticism can be useful for the critiqued if they are open to it, but this is about personal experience when it comes to music. I have experienced that "ruination" when I was expecting good things, it stated off to my liking, then it turned into something not to my tastes. Has been no big deal I just moved on as it's hardly ever happened with music that I've purchased -- more with youtube, myspace, soundcloud, bandcamp etc. After a promising and intriguing beginning, often the song has shifted and settled into AORish territory with this slower, more drawn-out part that I found off-putting -- commonly in the vocals and also commonly with a type of smooth, melodic electric guitar style. I think a lot of melodic proggy rock bands might start out with something that sounds more classically and frenetically Prog, then move into this ballady, commercial sounding section. In some of those cases, I'd rather they drop the proggy flourishes and pretensions and just do melodic rock. I sometimes feel with such music that it's trying to be Prog whereas it's heart is in melodic "AOR" rock. Usually with those kinds of bands, I don't like how they start either, but it has happened that I was fooled by what I thought an interesting instrumental intro before it morphed into a style that I don't like. I do value eclecticism in music, so often a part that I don't automatically like and takes me out of the music I will accept and move through, but I often accept it more easily when I get the sense that they will be experimental.

Also, I've heard some quite amateur bands that seemed to me to start off really well, but then the vocalist I found so pitchy and cringe-worthy that I would just feel embarrassed for him or her (mostly hims), especially when seen live at some bar or outdoors event. ^ And also, growls coming in have ruined some music for me too.

Edited by Logan - March 22 2018 at 10:20