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A Blogg that is also a Poll, Kansas in Rush |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30644 |
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I have never get bored with either even if they are 'overplayed'. As studio pieces they cannot be improved. They are very much ensemble efforts and no one is taking all the plaudits. That said you have the amazingly talented Steve Walsh not only providing those great vocals but also one of the best organ breaks ever. I remember listening to Tom Sawyer on the radio and it was an absolute joy to hear something with some real substance. I think the lyrics are similar to Subdivisions with a sense of being outside of everything looking in. Anyway a vote for Kansas to even up things.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Definitely Kansas
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 949 |
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Carry On Wayward son is not my favorite Kansas song nor is Tom Sawyer from rush but still they are both excellent in what they achieve, both strong openers for classic albums. I voted Kansas Carry on wayward son
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4098 |
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not a fan of Kansas---american prog is not my thing--but love some of Rush's in your face stadium rock.
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DarkTower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 22 2018 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 507 |
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Both songs are great, but I have to go with Rush.
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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I’ve grown a bit sick of carry on after all these years but I can’t deny it’s a great song. No vote.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Tough one..
Tom Sawyer |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15683 |
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Carry On Wayward Son is a great song indeed. Rush on the other hand are totally lost on me, at least when they start singing.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19711 |
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I like both equally. Which one is more interesting is a more difficult question for me to answer. I don't really know what Tom Sawyer is about(I'm pretty sure it's not about the Mark Twain novel. Lol.).
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34099 |
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Here is Vin and Sori reaction to Carry on Wayward Son to make a comparison between two reactionary youtube films
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Oh, man! I adamantly refuse to choose here. Two absolutely perfect songs. No way to separate the two. Period.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34099 |
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I borrow some of the enthusiasme of these "overplayd" songs from two fellows that havent "overheard" them I love there insight in lyrics, and newb enthusiasme to aspects of the songs seasoned prog ears (perhaps) does not hear anymore
they sadly does not have a video about "Tom Sawyer" though they got plenty of Rush songs overall... so i borrow the enthusiasme from two others so words as taste, flavour, idea, form and
content, have an aesthetic and sociological context/intent, two words/terms i
want to voice is the difference between liking and appreciating the
distinction i will try to use in the future is from Rick Beato, in how he talks
about production values whether it is about 00s pop song or 70s prog songs. The
distinction between appreciating production technique vs liking a band (fan). Liking
is about being a fan of the subject and appreciation is about respecting
various parts of the subject one intersects, one can appreciate how a technique
is used without liking the band one intersects, or well one can do both but in
general there is a distinction.
I want to present two songs which most here knows
about which is Tom Sawyer (1981) and
Carry On Wayward Son (1976), both to me are such good examples of
aspects which shows how both production is a key to songs, how composition is
key but also how both are sort of archetypical showcases of evolution of
"heavy prog", though Kansas being symph prog, Carry on Wayward Son,
is in its own right a heavy prog song, to my ears. But that is not the case of
the discussion, just a detail. Both songs share some similarity’s, but I will
also make it clear, i also regard Rush and Kansas as two wildly different
animals/beasts in terms of the power which both bands individually have. Though
they have some shallow similarity’s, but I won’t get into too much details. They
both show equal strength and power in both these songs, which makes the songs
sounds in some way similar. Despite that, both songs judged solely by themselves
towards each other share some stark similarities.
Key similarities,
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