1970

Logan wrote: EDIT: a problem with deleting a user including their posts is that then other posts will be seen out of context. The following paragraph was referring to a removed user. I should have quoted just in case he got deleted. Basically he was saying that Funkadelic is disco and disco is a lame joke. That [as said to the deleted user] comes across as very narrow-minded to me, and frankly, as a juvenile response. I love plenty of Funkadelic, and the debut from 1970 also is my favourite. It's funk rock with psychedelic qualities. I wouldn't call it disco (and I like plenty of disco and discoesque music). Out of curiosity, have you actually listened to the album? I like the related Parliament's Osmium from the same year also. To each his or her own tastes Anyway, there is so much amazing music from 1970. Some of my faves are: Magma - Kobaia Soft Machine - Third Igor Wakhévitch - Logos Amon Duul II - Yeti Supersister - Present From Nancy Can - Soundtracks Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms Egg - Egg Association P.C. - Earwax Staff Carpenborg and the Electric Corona - Fantastic Party Van der Graaf Generator - The Least... and H to He... Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes Demon Fuzz - Afreaka! Bo Hansson - Sagan om Ringen Dvid Bowie - The Man Who Sold the World David Axelrod - Earth Rot Tim Buckley - Starsailor and Lorca King Crimson - Lizard and In the Wake Trees - The Garden of Jane Delawney Jason Havelock - Pop Symphony Embryo - Opal Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Nucleus - Elastic Rock Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant Miles Davis - Bitches Brew Kevin Ayers & The Whole World - Shooting at the Moon Robert Wyatt - The End of an Ear The Pentangle - Cruel Sister Forest - Full Circle C.O.B - Spirit of Love Tudor Lodge - Tudor Lodge Black Widow - Sacrifice Jan Dukes de Grey - Sorcerers Lucifer's Friend - self-titled Bruce Haack - The Electric Lucifer High Tide - High Tide Santana - Abraxas Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You Vashti Bunyan - Just Another Diamond Day Jethro Tull - Benefit Quatermass - Quatermass Mickey Curtis and Samurai - Samurai Supertramp - Supertramp etc.

I commented on the Funkadelic digression, which now includes a couple of removed posts. Now, I would like to comment on the actual subject. 1970 was a fantastic year for music, as is evidenced by all the great albums fellow members have posted, so many so, that I would not even begin to make my own list here. This was a time when many of the more raw experimentations of psychedelia were coming to fruition. Creativity was honored and sought after. Rock was reaching a maturity it had not had before (which led to the later punk rebellion). I am gratified to see many bands and artists in previous lists that are not strictly prog, but remember, even bands as blewzy as Mountain, for example, put elements into the music that are consistent with Prog. I came to age in the 70s, and I am still exploring the music of that decade, going back to its beginning.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Catcher10 wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Yea "prog" was not even a moniker back then, it was art/psych/acid rock/pop. It was only in the mid 70's that the prog moniker started to be used. Many, many artists were moving away from traditional music schemes in rock, R&B, pop, soul music....it was all progressive.  But I know what you are meaning and today we can label it prog. Nope. The term progressive rock was starting to be used by 1969 although just progressive was more common in the early 70's. The term  prog rock didn't become a thing until the punk fans used it disparagingly in the late 70's and just "prog" wasn't really common until at least the late 80's.  Maybe PROGRESSIVE ROCK but not PROG. And still, I struggle in finding any print in say Melody Maker or Billboard or Rolling Stone from late 60's that described bands as PROGRESSIVE ROCK. Especially when you look up reviews of some of these bands from late 60's. The majority of them were described as art/psych/acid poprock music.    I stand by my comments(all of them)since I have researched it. The term prog rock wasn't used until the punk rockers used it to talk about "that crap prog rock." Again, just prog came a bit later(late 80's according to urbandictionary but 90's according to wikipedia). I actually had a mixed tape that I made in the 90's that I called "Mike's prog mixed tape" or something like that. I wish I kept it but I gave it to someone on a different website. If anyone wants to know some of the things on it send me a pm.  As for progressive rock it was used pretty early on. There is even an album on the archives where they call it progressive music from 1969. Here you go. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8007  Also, you can see from these old threads that I'm not the only one who thinks "progressive rock" was used then. Was it widespread? No, probably not but that doesn't mean it wasn't used at all. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20991 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96965 Also, from wikipedia: "Prog" was devised in the 1990s[15] as a shorthand term, but later became a transferable adjective, also suggesting a wider palette than that drawn on by the most popular 1970s bands.[16]

Catcher10 wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Yea "prog" was not even a moniker back then, it was art/psych/acid rock/pop. It was only in the mid 70's that the prog moniker started to be used. Many, many artists were moving away from traditional music schemes in rock, R&B, pop, soul music....it was all progressive.  But I know what you are meaning and today we can label it prog. Nope. The term progressive rock was starting to be used by 1969 although just progressive was more common in the early 70's. The term  prog rock didn't become a thing until the punk fans used it disparagingly in the late 70's and just "prog" wasn't really common until at least the late 80's.  Maybe PROGRESSIVE ROCK but not PROG. And still, I struggle in finding any print in say Melody Maker or Billboard or Rolling Stone from late 60's that described bands as PROGRESSIVE ROCK. Especially when you look up reviews of some of these bands from late 60's. The majority of them were described as art/psych/acid poprock music.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 24 2020 at 21:28

Sean Trane wrote: 11           Funkadelic          Funkadelic          USA       Some of that killer funk was quite progressive.  War, Mandrill, Cymande and Osibisa did some really cool stuff too.

Edited by Tapfret - April 24 2020 at 18:54

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Yea "prog" was not even a moniker back then, it was art/psych/acid rock/pop. It was only in the mid 70's that the prog moniker started to be used. Many, many artists were moving away from traditional music schemes in rock, R&B, pop, soul music....it was all progressive.  But I know what you are meaning and today we can label it prog. Nope. The term progressive rock was starting to be used by 1969 although just progressive was more common in the early 70's. The term  prog rock didn't become a thing until the punk fans used it disparagingly in the late 70's and just "prog" wasn't really common until at least the late 80's.

Karlo wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Yea "prog" was not even a moniker back then, it was art/psych/acid rock/pop. It was only in the mid 70's that the prog moniker started to be used. Many, many artists were moving away from traditional music schemes in rock, R&B, pop, soul music....it was all progressive.  But I know what you are meaning and today we can label it prog. In the late 60's / early 70's, (British) "underground music" and "progressive music" were synonyms. Sorry but Funk and Soul have nothing to do with that.

someone_else wrote: 1970 was a good year, but prog was still in its adolescence. The greatest years were 1971, 1972, 1973 and 1975.