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"Night Watch", "Deceiver", then all the rest.
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This thread reminded me of how much good KC live stuff there is to enjoy.

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Deceiver...Nightwatch,,,RA,,,Chicago......
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I thought it was just a little too hyper-philosophical for me at the time.

Do you mean this one, Hull Technical College November 13 1972?
Audience recording, part of the Larks Tongue In Aspic 2012 Box set.
Recording is fair, performance is very good. Not sure I'd classify it as a must have.

Check out the March 12 1972 Live at Summit Studios Denver set if you can. Excellent on all fronts.


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Fripp says that "the moment" matters and is not to be repeated, then releases a hundred live shows at 10-20 bucks a pop......sheeesh.  Still, I'm glad the old crank dug up those tapes of the band from Oct '72 thru May '73 - it was by far the least represented of the incarnations from inception to '74.  Has anyone heard the Nov '72 show from Hull?
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Any of them besides Earthbound. That album is just impossible to listen to.
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

'The Night Watch', 'Radical Action...' and 'THRAkaTTacK' are my top three!

Same for me; would probably put Radical Action first since it covers all KC periods.

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If you like their 80s stuff (like I do) then Absent Lovers is for you!

Their Chicago one also kicks serious butt. Problem with Radical Action is that you only get the instruments, not the crowd, so it does end up feeling like these are studio renditions (which is a feat on its own, but a different ballgame in terms of so called live albums).
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^Nary a nickle made. As all of my concert recordings are...just for me.
But as I recall and it was Apr. 01 1983, he mentioned something about "The Moment" and how it was meant to be experienced in not again and again. So it seemed about more than just monetization at the time. Maybe he changed his tune over time?


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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Without exaggeration I have over 200 live recordings of KC from all across their career. I have no idea how I'd pick one.

Now if we take all the KC Club releases out of the mix and stick to the recordings on PA Then The Great Deceiver: Live 1973 - 1974 or The Night Watch would be my picks.

But my pride and joy is a bootleg I did of Robert Fripp performing his Frippertronics and doing a combo lecture Q&A at The University of Toronto. He mentioned multiple times his dislike for bootleg recordings and I felt like such a naughty boy for doing it, but it turned out great and was for sure a one off performance.

If you did it for private use only Fripp would probably not have any objections. He is only against people making a buck with bootlegs.


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Of all the questions ever asked on Prog Archives this one would have to be the hardest. Impossible. A simple answer would be to keep saying the last one.
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'The Night Watch', 'Radical Action...' and 'THRAkaTTacK' are my top three!
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Has anybody honestly listened to all of them?
Good point. USA is the gold standard, IMHO.
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Oh, f', that's USA. Really in the moment, even if it's sweetened by Eddie Jobson on Larks' Tongues' and Lament.
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I’ve seen this (I think??) bootleg floating around called Mirrors. released in italy in 1990 on cd. It featured the 11/13/1973 concert in Rome. I can’t stop listening to it. It’s on Youtube aswell. They were road-testing tracks from S&BB, played all the LTIA tracks, and even played Cat Food, which was something Wetton pushed fripp to do constantly. Its a very powerful and unreal experience.
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

It's hard to vote against The Great Deceiver. 

Although some live albums from the current band are tops, such as Chicago 2017 and the Meltdown set. 

I was at the Chicago 2017 show, it was jaw-dropping amazing!!   June 18, 2017....Chicago Theater, an amazing, old and elegant venue.  
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Radical Action for me, but you can't go wrong w/ Meltdown, Chicago or Great Deceiver. KC is stunning live
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Ha! I was JUST looking at the Live KC albums yesterday over a quick breakfast! The Great Deceiver all the way for me. It's also my favorite era and line-up, so I'm probably biased.

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Has anybody honestly listened to all of them?

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For me, it's Collectable King Crimson vol 1. Overall, I like it even better than The Great Deceiver. It's got two shows, The Mainz one could have a better sound quality, but I really love the performances (and still the sound is good enough to be perfectly enjoyable, anyway), and the other is the same show from USA, but without edits nor overdubs, and in general the album has most of my favourite versions of the songs of the time.
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