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Poll Question: Nominate one piece and vote for three
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My podium:

1) Per Nørgård – Wiigenlied

2) Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae

For the third place, I was undecided between:

- Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience

- Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

- Man - Sospan Fach

I go with the the easier listening, the Romanian folk of Phoenix

So, 

3) Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

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Honorable mentions:

4) Man - Sospan Fach

5) Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers B

6) Mediaeval Bæbes - Memorare

7) Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Grand Public's Prize: Bulgarian State Television Female Vocal Choir - Pilentze Pee

Grand Critic's Prize: Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience
 





Edited by jamesbaldwin - October 13 2021 at 18:12
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).


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Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).

Edited by Logan - October 13 2021 at 13:50
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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm

Thanks, George!

In the image we see Pasolini on the set of the medium-length film "La Ricotta" (with Orson Welles), which is perhaps his masterpiece. It is part of a collective film where 5 directors, including Godard, participate with a medium-length film. Ricotta speaks of the representation of the passion of Christ and is a parable about poverty because the actor who has to be Christ ... I would not like to spoil you! Wink
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Thank you for the playlist, George!
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Playlist!



https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm
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So now all nominations are in. You can start voting Smile
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My nomination is: Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom
Or, if you want it a bit Shorter: Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom

Haven't had the occasion to listen to anything yet; I hope I will be able to do that in the coming days...

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As we speak, I have nominations from everyone except suitkees, SuperMetro and dr wu23. The latter two only submitted one song each if I remember correctly, so unless they state otherwise, I will count these as their nominations.
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Your word creation has PA jargon potential! LOL

  I love to make truly awful puns.  Sad but true.  
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the biginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile

  Truly a standout, at least for me, haven't heard much else quite like it.  And thank you for clarinet-ifying Wink the reeded instrument.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

First thoughts on Mila's addition:
Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊
Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the beginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile



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Tough choice for me on this one as I really love Joe Jackson's harmonies but also really love the power of the choir in the Man title.

I'll go with:
Man - Sospan Fach (Live)
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Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)

Yeah, sometimes things can feel sort of tainted by what you know, later on.  However, just listening without judging the artist or the situation, which is what I try to do with a few artists I find disappointing on a personal level.  
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First thoughts on Mila's addition:

Mila:  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
  I actually did comment, but both of yours are on my "relisten if chosen," list.  Smile

I take that back, I  think I inadvertently didn't add it after your first one?  Here is my take:

Christian:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby”  (I am unfamiliar with this) Pan-type flutes (or done on keys?) and chanting open the piece.  There are sounds of crickets interspersed.  A woman’s voice softly sings while drums and keys underpin her voice.  The opening part repeats.  Hypnotic sort of song.  The woman returns and is joined by a choral group, sounds like children included.  Interesting how the vocalizations are similar to African ones and also, sometimes like Hawaiian Islands singing.  Nevertheless, a sense of antiquity to it.  You could choose either of yours and they will be in the “second listen,” category for me. 

I think I did get all up to here, please let me know if I missed anyone's that were in the running potentially.




Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)
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I'm clueless what to choose this time around. Meredith Monk has participated here before. A look at the line-up tells me that my other two options don't fit in here either. They seem comparatively trivial, well sort of. I like my African vocal group a lot. This here might be another option. It's on the jazzy side which i like and there are some African drums too but I normally try to avoid artists from the Western English speaking world because they are usually well represented and also it is very likely that someone knows my chosen artists as it already happened with Meredith. But ok, I'll make an exception and give it another try. I'm sorry for my sudden change of mind! 

Here is my nomination (info will follow)

Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble: Now (Forever Momentary Space)



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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.

I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).

You meant Portuguese fado, didn't you? Because Brazil has a wide variety of musical styles, beyond samba and bossa nova.


Yes, Fado, but even some Brazilian musical styles, where I feel the saudade (for example, in bossanova I often feel it).
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