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Rorro
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 31 2005 Location: Uruguay Status: Offline Points: 508 |
Posted: February 08 2006 at 02:48 | |
I fully agree with ivan_2068, the fact that modern prog has brougth into some new concepts, like the fantastic bands The Mars Volta, or God Speed you Black Emperor! or sigur ros, doesnt mean that this is better or worst. E.G. I made my first steps to prog music listening to yes, jethro tull and genesis, so when i first listened to the mars volta, i thought ,'what a noisy piece of BS. The only reason why i felt atracted to this band was it's level of complexity. So i started to listen this, i got used to it, and now i admit that IMHO De Loused On The Cromatotium is the most innovative album since Anglagard. There were exelent bands on ninetees like the flower kings, glass hammer, liquid tension, anglagard, par lindh project, echolyn , spock's beard, and more. And I can't say that this bands are poorer than the 70's group's. By the way, have you ever listened to the Wheatstone bridge Demo's ? ( Amazing). |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 22:40 | |
Holy God, what a load of BS, I believe I'm a purist, but this is too much. There's great Prog since the late 60's amd all the 70's, of course the 80's were weak, but who can forget Anglagard and Par Lindh Project from the 90's or the whole bunch of new Prog bands like Trespass (Isr) Glass Hammer, Magenta, Echolyn, The Red Masque, etc. It's true there was more Prog in the 70's, but you'll find great music in every decade if you search. Iván |
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 22:18 | |
Ok, but this kind of topic will appear from time to time. It is not meaningfull, off course. I'll still loving old and new progressive music. In fact, this kind of thread provides me the chance to practice some english. As for the rest, as I said, I'll keep my records, and I'll always be searching for new music...
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FragileDT
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1485 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 21:35 | |
ATTENTION
No one listen to the lost chord. He has done this many times before. I don't know how many times one can bring up the same topic. His last one I remember was "Modern Prog is Rubbish." He is only trying to make the newer people here him. If you look it up you will see that I think he created 3 other topics like this (at least 2 that I remember vividly.) I'm sick of people dismissing modern prog just because it sounds "different." The title for Progressive rock was given to the genre because that style of music was meant to "progress" what other bands and artists have been doing. Now don't even begin to tell me that there aren't modern bands that are "progressing" modern music. Don't begin to tell me that you have many bands that sound exactly like the Mars Volta. It's called progress. If you don't like it, don't listen to it, don't critisize it because you can't handle (or don't want to accept) something different. When people say things like this it's just as ignorant as someone dismissing more intricate music for their standard pop tunes. |
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
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Lord Qwerty
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 21:18 | |
Lord Qwerty asks The Lost Chord: What specific traits of 'classic' prog bands do you find lacking in today's prog bands? |
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Starette
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 502 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 18:55 | |
All I have to say on this one is that System of a Down piss me off, Dream Theatre is just as bad and stop picking on Radiohead because they never 'tried' to be prog in the first place! *nod nod* |
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CryoftheCarrots
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 29 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 674 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 18:51 | |
To all you modern prog bashers -crawl back in your timewarps and f**k off.Dweebs.Narrow minded hipocites.That is exactly the kind of mentality that I detest with commercial radio et al.If you people had your way there would be NO new bands.
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Asyte2c00
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2099 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 18:30 | |
Coheed and Cambria sucks. My friend listened to one of their albums and threw up on his discman afterwards. no lie |
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Asyte2c00
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2099 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 18:28 | |
The entire dynamic of music will change wen a revolutionary intrument , of eqaul importance of the guitar, is invented.
I would say music as a whole has progressed.
Jefferson Airplane to DJ Tiesto. Its like night and day. Music is progressing whether you realize it or not. |
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Asyte2c00
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2099 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 18:24 | |
WHAT? Are you being sarcastic?
They are definitely prog
Modern prog is the only enthralling genre of music out today.
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 15:48 | |
Yes and now. Music grows. "Old school" people usually refuse to this. Influence is one of the most important features of progressive music. |
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Zweck
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 234 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 13:15 | |
So you are proposing that some Darwinian sh*t is going on in music, and that some genres grow symbiotic to fend off common enemies?
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Space Dimentia
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 25 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 440 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 12:58 | |
erlenst I was just puting my view on here over what giantwarthog was saying on another page of this thread how he beleives porg and punk are an unholy alliances and im just saying I think he is wrong.
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Prog is music for the mind
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sularetal
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 24 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 264 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 12:55 | |
This thread I'm tired of a group of people in this site.... Why are they keep trying to compare two different things. In your everyday life do you compare shoes with hats??? Why do the same thing with what you call "modern" and "true" prog, or "progressive music" with "prog" or 70's bands with modern bands.... For example I like old school hard rock like Ac/Dc. Now there are bands like Spiritual Beggars, Monster Magnet etc. I love ac/dc and i cant listen to spiritual beggars but that only happens beacause Ac/Dc is just exactly what I've been born to listen to..... Why compare Camel with Tool, The Mars Volta with Yes?????? WTF do they have in common???? Many people here would say "ELP own Radiohead", ok then i guess scaners own printers.... I mean mabye you like the music created on the 70's. There is such a huge amount of unknown bands who played that kind of stuff that an entire life is probably not enough to listen to all of them so why dont you stick to that era's music and leave modern aside. Music is moving on either you like it or not. Not saying its getting better because as i said you cant compare them. Come on guys..... We have so many polls like "best drummer", "best prog band", "ITCOCK VS RED" etc where we all post our opinions as the right answer not like an "opinion". |
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Rosescar
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 07 2005 Status: Offline Points: 715 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 12:51 | |
Doesn't Dark Side Of The Moon sync up with The Wizard Of Oz?
He's saying that punk was a rebellious, non-conformist movement whereas now it is rather the opposite, and that prog is more punk in the essence of non-conformism and rebellion. Edited by Rosescar |
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Zweck
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 234 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:59 | |
Angry muhammedans....
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erlenst
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 387 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:56 | |
What the hell are you talking about ? |
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Space Dimentia
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 25 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 440 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:16 | |
Just touching on what giantworthog said...punk and por mixing is a heresy. Sorry but I don't think so Punk was between 76-79 and was there to destroy the music industry now Punk has become part of the very thing it was suppose to destroy. Prog on the other hand has always been there to make sure music progresses and continues to experiment without a safety net, nowadays prog rock is more punk than punk itself!
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cmsandi
Forum Newbie Joined: February 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:08 | |
its true that alot of the catchier "prog" songs/bands these days may not sound as progressive as some of the earlier stuff but if you actually give them a chance (coheed&cambria) you will learn that they hate when they are labeled emo or punk...they are progressive in the fact that they are doing the same thing 99% of all earlier prog bands...but they PROGRESSED...thats whats great about prog...its is always evolving! bands like System of a Down are not prog but rather poli-rock and would rather talk to you about the politics in egypt rather then the construction of their music. If the music didnt progress from rush, genesis, elp, yes, and queensryche (many more) then it wouldnt be progressive! it may not sound as great but thats just an opinion...i dont like it anymore then alot of you but atleast its introducing more people into our genre...if they look and see these MTV prog bands influences and see rush maybe they will check into them and hince beign a whole new journey into prog rock...that kinda how i did it!
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:03 | |
Ok then. Music is a form of Art. Art must always eveolve, in orther to manifest the sensitivity of it's own time. In other words, it must progress, or it'll be dead from the very start. ¿You see anyone trying to create baroque music today as if it were the newest thing? NO. ¿Why? because orchestral music has progressed also, or, moved on, if you will. |
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