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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:58
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by necromancing777 necromancing777 wrote:

Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007.
 
Wait, Aren't you that guy who likes Asia?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:44
Originally posted by necromancing777 necromancing777 wrote:

Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007.
 
Wait, Aren't you that guy who likes Asia?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 22:41
Here's what Carl Palmer had to say about the Asia 25th anniversary tour:
In May 2006, Carl Palmer announced in an in-studio appearance on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic that the original lineup of Asia would tour the United States - the territory in which the group enjoyed its greatest success - in late summer of that year. Palmer stated the set list would include the entire 'Asia' album, and that band members would likely "throw in" selections from their respective earlier projects (specifically giving "Roundabout" as an example), to give younger fans a sense of where they had come from prior to forming the supergroup. The drummer, who was also promoting a new album of classic progressive rock material re-interpreted without vocals or keyboards, said that once the agreement had been reached, everyone was eager to move forward on the project in advance of the anniversary. Palmer modestly added that, should the tour be a success, a live DVD release could mark that anniversary in 2007.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 20:29
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

It just so happens that I like AOR bands like Journey, Boston, Foreigner, Styx et al as well as all manner of prog. I find Asia to be a neat middleground.
If Asia is a "middle ground", no wonder people have the temerity to call Spock's Beard a Prog band, then...Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 17:32
I like Asia's debut- always have done. The later Wetton albums are a bit of a letdown as they all sound like the debut, with only 'The Heat Goes On', 'The Smile Has Left Your Eyes', 'Prayin' For A Miracle' and particularly 'Days Like These' standing out. However their last album 'Silent Nation' saw a huge upturn- possibly the most musically interesting album I've heard of theirs. I'll have to check out the other Payne albums.
 
I don't think Asia could have won whatever they did- if they'd have done purist prog in the 80s, they'd have been slammed for being 'old hat' (just like I've seen many 'neo prog' bands called here), yet as they went mainstream they faced criticism for being too poppy and selling out. Catch-22, really. Personally I like many of their songs a lot and don't see the problem with their music that causes such an amount of loathing they seem to- in my mind, 80s Genesis is far more of a sell out than Asia in terms of sound. It just so happens that I like AOR bands like Journey, Boston, Foreigner, Styx et al as well as all manner of prog. I find Asia to be a neat middleground.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 16:22
^Honestly, though. Isn't obscure mainstream music pretty much the definition of pointless?
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Always found it funny how Geoff Downes made Asia his baby and kept releasing albums...not to offend anybody, but how many copies do those things really sell? Who buys them?
 
That can be applied to most of the prog releases of the last 20 years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:23
Always found it funny how Geoff Downes made Asia his baby and kept releasing albums...not to offend anybody, but how many copies do those things really sell? Who buys them?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:11
Originally posted by Nanook Nanook wrote:

Well, put me down for one that likes Asia. And for the record, I'm not gay either. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:10
Their debut album is good IMO. Commercial AOR with prog influences, but still good. Their second album is crappy, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 15:02
Originally posted by Nanook Nanook wrote:

Call it what you will, but it's still good music.
Call it what you will, it's still pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:54
Well, put me down for one that likes Asia. And for the record, I'm not gay either.

Asia always puts out good music, well played and sung. Call it what you will, but it's still good music.

I'll go further than that, I like both incarnations of Asia, too, not just the first lineup. John Payne's voice is outstanding. Listen to the album Aura, excellent work. Their cover of 10CC's Ready to go home is phenomenal.

Call me what you like, but Asia is an extremely talented musical group, one of many who are ignored by over 90% of the music buying public.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:51
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

"Heat of the Moment" is on my playlist of songs to blast really loud in the car, as are Europe's "The Final Countdown" and Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again."
 
Who's living in the 80s? I'm super Cool!
 
LOL
 
The Final Countdown got 4.5 stars on AllMuisc!
 
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I know! LOL
 
Allmusic reviwers certainly have a sense of humor! Most Porcupine Tree albums are about 3 stars yet the Final Countdown is 4.5! Aww...bless their sweet, innocent hearts. LOL
 
It was an ignorant mistake. We can't hold it against them. Wink
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:58
Originally posted by crimson thing crimson thing wrote:

Intruder said, about Asia, "the equivalent of a prog rock boy band"
I'm not sure whether this is something to be welcomed..........or strangled at birth.........Ermm


I don't think it was really such a thing. The idea of "boy" or "girl" bands belongs mostly to the '90s (although, in a way or another, they have always existed, even if with a different name). What I think is that it was a clever way to make money out of the famous names of the band members. The record company executives knew that lots of people would rush out to buy the album on the strength of the musicians and even of the album cover. I don't like Asia very much, but I would never put them on the same level as talent-free outfits such as modern-day boy bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:36
Intruder said, about Asia, "the equivalent of a prog rock boy band"
I'm not sure whether this is something to be welcomed..........or strangled at birth.........Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:30
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

You know how I know Asia's gay....'cause they even chose the band name as a ploy to sell records.  They had dollar signs on their mind from the start. 
Wait... Are you seriously saying that homosexuals are greedier than straight people?


"You know how I know you're gay?" is a catch phrase from the movie '40 year old virigin', to which the original poster was referring because Asia gets dissed in it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:53
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

You know how I know Asia's gay....'cause they even chose the band name as a ploy to sell records.  They had dollar signs on their mind from the start. 
Wait... Are you seriously saying that homosexuals are greedier than straight people?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:44
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

You know how I know Asia's gay....'cause they even chose the band name as a ploy to sell records.  They had dollar signs on their mind from the start.  Contrivance....the equivalent of a prog rock boy band ('cept they were all grown up, you can tell by Palmer's hairy beer gut on MTV).   

Their singles were snappy, radio ready numbers that got in your head just like TV commerical jingles....a record selling machine.  Man, Howe made more money from playing the guitar on MTV than from all the Yes tours combined. 

Why do I hate Asia?  They represent another step forward in the corporatization of rock (what record company would release Close to the Edge if a young unknown band brought it to their doorstep)...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 10:38

You know how I know Asia's gay....'cause they even chose the band name as a ploy to sell records.  They had dollar signs on their mind from the start.  Contrivance....the equivalent of a prog rock boy band ('cept they were all grown up, you can tell by Palmer's hairy beer gut on MTV).   

Their singles were snappy, radio ready numbers that got in your head just like TV commerical jingles....a record selling machine.  Man, Howe made more money from playing the guitar on MTV than from all the Yes tours combined. 

Why do I hate Asia?  They represent another step forward in the corporatization of rock (what record company would release Close to the Edge if a young unknown band brought it to their doorstep)...
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 05:31

I agree on this site all their classic albums are all rated 3 stars.

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