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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:57
I'm not crazy about the album-tagging idea, or categorizing by album....just throwing that out there. 
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Points: 46843 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:57
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:


I'm not suggesting that we make this a change for the site (especially since we JUST re-did the metal subgenres) but I'd just like to talk about it. What are the advantages to many subgenres?

P.S. (I never understood why we need 3 genres for metal when it's all metal. LOL)


The advantages.. . are many... but simply... we don't have to like all the tags and categories we have here... but part of managing the site is recognizing that  people DO use such tags.. to help find what they like.   The site and it's current structure isn't for us to like or dislike...  it is to serve those getting into prog.  For those of us who love prog.. all prog across such barriers... if doesn't matter.. but really... all of this is to serve the new people ...and to help naviagate and explore the vast array of prog out there.

that was the reason for splitting up PM...  anyone who has the interests... and understands what we are trying to do here... should recognize that. Having all those groups together served no purpose... to those new or exploring PM.  For myself.. it is much easier to find the groups I might like. Simple as that.
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Points: 38979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:55
Shakespeare: No doubt we have.  I'm glad you brought this up, I think it's very messy as it is and closely related ones should be grouped together on the front page (but seperated to as subcategories at the page you hit after you click on the master category).  And then we need album multi-tagging to complement the categorisations.
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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Alt. Prog (suitable for crossover).

Wait....we've had that discussion before, haven't we?
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Points: 38979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:42
I rather guessed, haha, but went with the ball anyway.  Sorry about that. Oh, and definitely hadn't thought you mean "other" as a genre name (though that could be seen as synonymous with "alternative"). Alt. Prog (suitable for crossover).  Oh wait, I forgot that all the categories are categorised as "genres" here (even when they aren't recognised musical "genres").


Edited by Logan - December 08 2007 at 13:50
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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:40
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I would like a tree (subcategories), but apparently the software does not make it possible at this time.  For instance: you click on Prog Metal and then the subcategories are listed but also includes a master band list of all metal bands.



Yeah that would be great!

And by the way, by saying "Other (Zeuhl, Avant, Raga, etc.)" I wasn't suggesting that would be the genre's name, but that rather the description of it.
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Points: 38979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:38
I would like a tree (subcategories), but apparently the software does not make it possible at this time.  For instance: you click on Prog Metal and then the subcategories are listed but also includes a master band list of all metal bands.

I wouldn't want a category called "Other (Zeuhl, Avant, Electronic, Raga, etc.)" or general either, but I do think that Zeuhl could be made a subcategory of Avant, and one could include Krautrock and Canterbury too).  Or maybe not, as there is that relation to jazz/ rock fusion in Canterbury, Zeuhl, RIO, and well lots of Prog... Never mind.. needs more thought.

I've sometimes wondered if jazzy prog and non-jazzy prog categories would work. haha.  Way too simplistic, but subcategories would be great.




Edited by Logan - December 08 2007 at 13:39
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:30
Definitely no. Wink

Just a thought out of many: however various we've gone, I simply dislike the terms "Other" or "General" being attributed to a musical orientation/genre.


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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 13:24
I've always thought that there should be very few subgenres. I think the site would work very well if the genres were simply:

  • General Progressive Rock
  • Progressive Metal
  • Other (Zeuhl, Avant, Electronic, Raga, etc.)

Perhaps it would be wise to give a few more separations, but still. It keeps things neat, concise, and general. I like the idea of very few subgenres, but the description of the subgenres can give insight to the many subdivisions of the subgenre. Seems as though a lot of people do like having many subdivions, and some people want even more!

I'm not suggesting that we make this a change for the site (especially since we JUST re-did the metal subgenres) but I'd just like to talk about it. What are the advantages to many subgenres?

P.S. (I never understood why we need 3 genres for metal when it's all metal. LOL)
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