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J-Man 
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I vote Wetton.
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mark kraken
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 14:55 |
for me greg lake bass 10 vocals 10 greg lake beats john wetton hands down john wetton bass 8 vocals 6
artist and drummer mark kraken
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Hercules
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 13:50 |
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Wetton for bass playing, Lake for vocals.
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 13:28 |
Okay, it does say bass and vox. It makes this poll better than some of the others. Short - term memory loss here. 
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 13:26 |
 ExittheLemming wrote:
Probably the only thing they have in common is that classic 'tenor sings rock' vocal range that makes the output of both ELP and King Crimson so separately distinctive. Wetton clearly relished the improvisational opportunities afforded by the version of Crimson he joined, whereas Lake loathed to improvise (despite the best efforts of Emerson and Palmer to encourage this) Lake's basslines are carefully considered and composed right down the last detail and timbre employed (usually a very 'pure' bass tone which he likened to that of trying to imitate the bottom notes on a piano) Wetton's playing, by way of contrast, sounds much more spontaneous and enjoys a much more intimate dialogue with Bruford's drums. His tone is habitually guttural, visceral and borderline distorted in places. They both clearly have very differing approaches to how they see the role of bass in the music they contributed to. When push comes to shove, I prefer Wetton's voice and his bass playing strikes me as being perhaps more integral to the Crimson compositions than that of Lake's with ELP ?
BTW I think Greg Lake is a much better electric guitar player than he is generally given credit for (an avenue of his talent that had precious few opportunities to be revealed with ELP)
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Well said, Lemming, but it's actually Lake's acoustic playing that stands out for me. As to his bass, he plays exactly what needs to be played and stays with it. This is fine as far as studio arrangement goes, but I tend to find it very stiff. Thus, I prefer Wetton's bass playing for many of the reasons mentioned throughout this poll. I also prefer Wetton's vocals, but I am appreciating Lake more these days. Now, as to songwriting, I haven't really thought about that much. This issue has come up several times recently, and it would be nice if the pollsters were more specific about what they are getting at. Both Lake and Wetton are great prog artists, but they are also multi-faceted. Are we looking at it overall, or just one quality and if so, which one? 
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 12:58 |
Sckxyss wrote:
Considering just vocals, it's close. With bass playing in mind, there's no competition; Wetton for sure. |
I like both of their vocals but Wetton can be a monster on bass.Check out some of the live KING CRIMSON albums.
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Ah_Kin
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 07:20 |
snobb wrote:
I voted for Lake. Speaking about KC, I think generally Wetton time was better. But Lake has more specific (progressive) voice. (...) Wetton participated in some KC best albums, his work in UK was important. Not sure about Uriah Heep, and even less - about his solo works. |
Ditto. The first guy ever who launched the progressive rock world for me is Pete Sinfield. I was hesitating between him and Greg Lake, but I made up my mind. Greg Lake has got more importance in prog rock than Wetton does in the beginning, but I think Wetton did quite a better sound and anthology songs, compared to how boring became Greg Lake once he quit King Crimson. Go Greg Lake though, the myth before the myth.
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O666
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 06:54 |
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I love ELP and KC. but i think KC is a unique band for all times. I dont listen BAD album from KC. I vote wetton.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 06:49 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Probably the only thing they have in common is that classic 'tenor sings rock' vocal range that makes the output of both ELP and King Crimson so separately distinctive. Wetton clearly relished the improvisational opportunities afforded by the version of Crimson he joined, whereas Lake loathed to improvise (despite the best efforts of Emerson and Palmer to encourage this) Lake's basslines are carefully considered and composed right down the last detail and timbre employed (usually a very 'pure' bass tone which he likened to that of trying to imitate the bottom notes on a piano) Wetton's playing, by way of contrast, sounds much more spontaneous and enjoys a much more intimate dialogue with Bruford's drums. His tone is habitually guttural, visceral and borderline distorted in places. They both clearly have very differing approaches to how they see the role of bass in the music they contributed to. When push comes to shove, I prefer Wetton's voice and his bass playing strikes me as being perhaps more integral to the Crimson compositions than that of Lake's with ELP ?
BTW I think Greg Lake is a much better electric guitar player than he is generally given credit for (an avenue of his talent that had precious few opportunities to be revealed with ELP)
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Analysis dead on, though I'd go for Lake's vocals almost any day... I can't imagine Wetton really pulling off a song like Moonchild vocally (too much grit). Can't decide for the purposes of the poll.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 06:44 |
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Probably the only thing they have in common is that classic 'tenor sings rock' vocal range that makes the output of both ELP and King Crimson so separately distinctive. Wetton clearly relished the improvisational opportunities afforded by the version of Crimson he joined, whereas Lake loathed to improvise (despite the best efforts of Emerson and Palmer to encourage this) Lake's basslines are carefully considered and composed right down the last detail and timbre employed (usually a very 'pure' bass tone which he likened to that of trying to imitate the bottom notes on a piano) Wetton's playing, by way of contrast, sounds much more spontaneous and enjoys a much more intimate dialogue with Bruford's drums. His tone is habitually guttural, visceral and borderline distorted in places. They both clearly have very differing approaches to how they see the role of bass in the music they contributed to. When push comes to shove, I prefer Wetton's voice and his bass playing strikes me as being perhaps more integral to the Crimson compositions than that of Lake's with ELP ?
BTW I think Greg Lake is a much better electric guitar player than he is generally given credit for (an avenue of his talent that had precious few opportunities to be revealed with ELP)
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markosherrera
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 06:32 |
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I prefer the voice of Lake in songs like cest la vie etc
Edited by markosherrera - November 04 2009 at 06:32
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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Ah_Kin
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 06:01 |
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50%!!
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Peace
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The Runaway
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 05:30 |
Used to be Greg Lake until I listened to Lark's Tongues in Aspic.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 05:03 |
My two favorite singers!! Both stand on 15 votes while I write this and now I must decide  ? I can't choose! And you know what? I won't choose  They are both excellent singers, and they both wrote excellent melodies, excellent lyrics and they both know how to play their instrument well. Hurrah for John and Greg 
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progkidjoel
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 04:36 |
Sckxyss wrote:
Considering just vocals, it's close. With bass playing in mind, there's no competition; Wetton for sure.
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This exactly!
Although I still voted for Lake, because he's still fantastic at bass and a far better vocalist.
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Sckxyss
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 04:29 |
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Considering just vocals, it's close. With bass playing in mind, there's no competition; Wetton for sure.
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terryl
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 03:33 |
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+1 for Wetton
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Roj
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 03:03 |
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Greg Lake on both counts.
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someone_else
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 02:51 |
I voted for Greg Lake, although I hardly prefer him. But he has a good voice.
Nevertheless, John Wetton's performance with UK is equally good.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 02:48 |
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Wetton without a doubt.
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