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Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:05
Hi,
I always did like the French "laissez-faire" attitude, even with music and many of the arts ... and their experimental side is very good and a lot more fun than the English side. It's also weirder and a lot less "composed" ... just let it fly.
It was always weird to me that we consider Heldon "progressive" when it is quite clearly just an experiment in sound and to see where it takes one's fingers. It is as experimental and improvisational as things can come!
I also think that a lot of their other bands have a lot more going for their desire to do the work, than the London contingent that quite often is way too self conscious on becoming famous ... which makes the let it all hang out style of music much better and more interesting than otherwise. Too much of the English/London music is formulaic and sounds the same ... whereas we can not exactly say that about the French music ... and one of the best examples of total free form and lack of concern for a form, is how Alan Stivell can play just about with any style and anything and his many albums have it all ... but will never get discussed here!
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 14:34
Why should French people care about prog-rock? It's an awful creation of these damned English jelly eaters! Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, ELP, Jethro Tull, Van der Graaf Generator, Henry Cow, Gentle Giant, Soft Machine, Pink Floyd... ALL OF THEM ARE ENGLISH!
THE ENGLISH BURNT JOAN OF ARC AND WE SHOULD BUY RECORDS FROM THEM????
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 12:32
thellama73 wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Why do Canadians like prog rock but americans don't?
What are you talking about? There are more American members and more American bands on this site than Canadian ones. I don't care how great Rush is, they don't make Canadians more prog friendly than the US.
I could be wrong, but I think that Triceratopsoil's intention in asking about Canadians and Americans was to draw attention to the absurdity of making huge generalizations about whole nations in relation to their relative preferences for a particular genre of music. It was not a serious question. Just a very good one.
For the simple reason that Italians and Canadians(especially)are more progressive(in mind too) musically.Generally,the progressive minds exist in countries with good(mostly I mean the progressive way of thinking of a culture)culture,less suffering historically and the characteristings of people from a country or from a town e.t.c.(that maybe exist"a priori").But this subject is very strange and complicated in it's base.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:50
jean-marie, I smelled a rat when I saw this thread, hence my ironic post. The OP was online a minute ago and it would have been nice to hear from him/her. Hope he's not trying to yank anyone's chain.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:29
jean-marie wrote:
i'm a french prog fan since 1969 and all the prog shows where i've been were sold out ,this topic could be a joke but i'm not so sure.......a lot of bullsh*t but nevermind, just remember the floyd started to become very very famous in france first 1968 (american were deaf at the time ) GREETING FROM A FRENCH SUCKER WHO ONLY KNOWS ABOUT CHEESE AND WINE
Salut! I'm not sure that this thread should be taken seriously as it doesn't make any sense at all or maybe prog bands are played on the radio or in tv shows in Italy? I guess it's the same than everywhere...
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:23
i'm a french prog fan since 1969 and all the prog shows where i've been were sold out ,this topic could be a joke but i'm not so sure.......a lot of bullsh*t but nevermind, just remember the floyd started to become very very famous in france first 1968 (american were deaf at the time ) GREETING FROM A FRENCH SUCKER WHO ONLY KNOWS ABOUT CHEESE AND WINE
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:19
octopus-4 wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The Italians took Van Der Graaf Generator to #1 on their charts. Think about that.
One prog band at #1 for a week (if we don't consider Pink Floyd) in the last 40 years can't be considered statistically significant. It's just 1 on 2080 weeks.
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