Slartibartfast wrote: Paul Krugman: "The French are revolting. The Greeks, too. And it’s about time."

Thanks, Slarti.

I was against the idea of a united Europe from the very start and voted against it in the Norwegian referendum in 1994. I was against the euro, and the common currency proved indeed to be a disaster for many countries. I thought the first bailout was stupid and the second one even more so.

Yeah, the Greeks have made a lot of mistakes – especially their politicians. Lies and corruption, a stupid military budget (like Turkey would attack us? Don’t they have enough to do on the Asian side of their country?) and big promises that were not rooted in the country’s economy. But today it’s not an austerity policy, but a poverty policy, and that’s why the people are revolting.

The Greek people never chose to join the EU. They didn’t choose the euro. The Greek politicians did. I firmly believe that if we had had the drachma today, we wouldn’t have had any Nazis in the parliament.

(For the record: I’m a Norwegian living in Greece and couldn’t vote yesterday.)

Vibrationbaby wrote: I just want to know where you guys get the time to type out all these links man. I mean there was a cool story about a starving black hole eating up a star last week that I would have posted but it would have taken me forever to type in the bloody link. I dunno. I think thse freaking computers are going to eventually spell our demise. I no longer have one at home. Got rid of it. I put it out on the streeet with a sign saying free computer be my guest. I just keep the one in my office because unfortunately I need the stupid thing  for my business and to come here and a couple of other sites.

RoyFairbank wrote: The T wrote: ^Which shows you have never heard of anarcho capitalism.  Socialist is always a way to say"I have but one principle: I am opposed to anybody having something I don't have".  Dam You, literally, where are the beavers to clog up your river? Oh yeah we killed them all in the 19th century. Anarcho-capitalism is not what I was talking about. I was talking about red and black anarchism.  Anarcho-capitalism is relatively similar to Libertarianism and very, very different from the kind of anarchists that are marching on may day and overthrowing peoples cars and stones. As for your quip about socialists ... doesn't that apply to every ideology... including anarcho-capitalism?

The T wrote: refugee wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9249627/France-Greece-and-Germany-election-results-send-austerity-shockwaves-through-Europe.html This can be interesting … I think is time we go back to several different currencies and economic systems.

The T wrote: ^Which shows you have never heard of anarcho capitalism.  Socialist is always a way to say"I have but one principle: I am opposed to anybody having something I don't have".

Dam You, literally, where are the beavers to clog up your river? Oh yeah we killed them all in the 19th century.

Anarcho-capitalism is not what I was talking about. I was talking about red and black anarchism.  Anarcho-capitalism is relatively similar to Libertarianism and very, very different from the kind of anarchists that are marching on may day and overthrowing peoples cars and stones.

As for your quip about socialists ... doesn't that apply to every ideology... including anarcho-capitalism?

I just want to know where you guys get the time to type out all these links man. I mean there was a cool story about a starving black hole eating up a star last week that I would have posted but it would have taken me forever to type in the bloody link. I dunno. I think thse freaking computers are going to eventually spell our demise. I no longer have one at home. Got rid of it. I put it out on the streeet with a sign saying free computer be my guest. I just keep the one in my office because unfortunately I need the stupid thing  for my business and to come here and a couple of other sites. 

The European system is coming apart. Centralisation of power was never going to work with such an economically, and culturally diverse set of nations.

What we're left with is a bunch of countries in debt to the IMF and another bunch of countries. Unelected technocrats calling the shots in Greece and Italy. Spain and Portugal will no doubt go the same way.

The likes of Angela Merkal should be ashamed of herself. As German chancellor she should be batting for Germany not &rse licking Brussels for the good of the 'collective' The whole project has been 'the emperors new clothes' with too many career politicians too frightened to say 'actually this was a sh!t idea'

To think it was actually the socialist left in the UK who were Eurosceptic years ago. These days it's portrayed as a right wing perspective. I guess there's no better way to shut down a debate.

CPicard wrote: So, in a nutshell, what I learned from this page is that: 1) the French Socialist Party is a right-wing party, supported by fascists; 2) Anarchists are a bunch of middle class hooligans trying to destroy the working class; 3) Florida is part of the European Union. Interesting news.

Apparently you've never heard of anarcho-capitalism either.

So, in a nutshell, what I learned from this page is that:
1) the French Socialist Party is a right-wing party, supported by fascists;
2) Anarchists are a bunch of middle class hooligans trying to destroy the working class;
3) Florida is part of the European Union.

Interesting news.

refugee wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9249627/France-Greece-and-Germany-election-results-send-austerity-shockwaves-through-Europe.html This can be interesting …

I think is time we go back to several different currencies and economic systems.