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Matthew T
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:52 |
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Jozef
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:33 |
Rush- "Presto"
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:28 |
Ricochet wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
J-Man wrote:
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That album really frustrates me. I think it has some REALLY cool moments in it, but it seems just like they cut and pasted them together. It's really a shame because it had a lot of potential...
-Jeff
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It is indeed piecemeal cliche. I listened to it this morning with ear to see if I should drop my rating to two stars...but I'm still unsure.
Normally I am an arrangement guy- I like solid arrangements over technical expertise, but much of the music on here is executed so well that sometimes I can overlook the bad arrangements.
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My biggest problem is that nothing has a concise feeling of a "song" so to speak. It sometimes seems like random sections thrown into a melting pot. Some of the sections are so awesome, but they just don't really work together IMO. I think their keyboard player is incredibly talented though.
-Jeff
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There's a lot of that going around. 
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You gentlemen seem content with today's classic-influenced, or -reconstructing (to avoid the vague and ugly-to-use in this case "retro") prog. 
Because I'm not. A lot of flawed, inexpressive or upside-down visions and interpretations these days, a category which definitely doesn't include Wobbler.
It's also uneasy to hear that faithfully (re)created but also considerably eclectic materials, such as this one, are suddenly "too progressive".
| Some the criticisms I have made of Wobbler (this album really, I gave Hinterland four stars) I make of some of Emerson, Lake, & Palmer as well.
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Ricochet
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Joined: February 27 2005
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:20 |
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Matthew T
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:04 |
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Drew
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Location: California
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:03 |
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Dean
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:56 |
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KoS
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:44 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:41 |
J-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
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That album really frustrates me. I think it has some REALLY cool moments in it, but it seems just like they cut and pasted them together. It's really a shame because it had a lot of potential...
-Jeff
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It is indeed piecemeal cliche. I listened to it this morning with ear to see if I should drop my rating to two stars...but I'm still unsure.
Normally I am an arrangement guy- I like solid arrangements over technical expertise, but much of the music on here is executed so well that sometimes I can overlook the bad arrangements.
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My biggest problem is that nothing has a concise feeling of a "song" so to speak. It sometimes seems like random sections thrown into a melting pot. Some of the sections are so awesome, but they just don't really work together IMO. I think their keyboard player is incredibly talented though.
-Jeff
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:40 |
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J-Man
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Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:33 |
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J-Man
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:32 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:19 |
J-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
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That album really frustrates me. I think it has some REALLY cool moments in it, but it seems just like they cut and pasted them together. It's really a shame because it had a lot of potential...
-Jeff
| It is indeed piecemeal cliche. I listened to it this morning with ear to see if I should drop my rating to two stars...but I'm still unsure.
Normally I am an arrangement guy- I like solid arrangements over technical expertise, but much of the music on here is executed so well that sometimes I can overlook the bad arrangements.
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 11:43 |
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 Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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The Quiet One
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Location: Argentina
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 11:42 |
Before:
Now:
Edited by The Quiet One - December 05 2009 at 11:44
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J-Man
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 11:29 |
Epignosis wrote:
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That album really frustrates me. I think it has some REALLY cool moments in it, but it seems just like they cut and pasted them together. It's really a shame because it had a lot of potential... -Jeff
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Joined: September 27 2005
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 11:20 |
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 Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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moe_blunts
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Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 11:01 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 10:46 |
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Pekka
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Posted: December 05 2009 at 10:03 |
Lesser known 2009 stuff:
Trili - Trili pt. 1
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