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Greg W 
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 Posted: September 20 2007 at 16:30 |
 JJLehto wrote:
I think Eli is doing splendidly, and will continue to do so. Too bad the defense couldn't stop a High School football team....
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I thought ELI played well against the Pack despite him nursing a shoulder injury. Your defense hasn't looked good, but I also saw ALOT of catchable passes were being dropped by their recievers
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Greg W
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 16:28 |
Garion81 wrote:
Greg W wrote:
The Raiders play Cleveland this week. A week ago I would have said they stand a good chance to win this game. Now, after Cleveland won 51-45...I'm not so confident anymore. I REALLY don't want to go 0-3. |
It is going to be an a very rocky year for the Raiders. 0-3 would suck but what I would like to see is improvement week to week resulting in a great second half. There was tremendous improvement from week one defensively, running game too just offensively and kicking game lost that game. I don't think this team has enough to reach the playoffs but an 8-8 record with a good second half would go a long way leading to next year. |
Actually, I never REALLY believed the Raiders would be better than 8-8. I would like them to have some success, however. When, for that brief moment that they had looked like they won, the players were behaving like exuberant boys who were about to go to Disney World. It was neat seeing that a single victory might lift their spirits so.
I kind of like this Kiffin guy as our coach. We need some victories, however, if we hope to keep him.
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 08:33 |
rileydog22 wrote:
My entire family is 0-2 right now:
Me: Giants fan
Dad: Rams fan
Bro: Eagles fan
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Wow. Do you guys need some psychological counseling? One of those teams has to win a game. Eventually.
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 23:13 |
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My entire family is 0-2 right now:
Me: Giants fan
Dad: Rams fan
Bro: Eagles fan
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 23:09 |
I think Eli is doing splendidly, and will continue to do so. Too bad the defense couldn't stop a High School football team....
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Garion81
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 12:44 |
Greg W wrote:
The Raiders play Cleveland this week. A week ago I would have said they stand a good chance to win this game. Now, after Cleveland won 51-45...I'm not so confident anymore. I REALLY don't want to go 0-3. |
It is going to be an a very rocky year for the Raiders. 0-3 would suck but what I would like to see is improvement week to week resulting in a great second half. There was tremendous improvement from week one defensively, running game too just offensively and kicking game lost that game. I don't think this team has enough to reach the playoffs but an 8-8 record with a good second half would go a long way leading to next year.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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Greg W
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Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:58 |
The Raiders play Cleveland this week. A week ago I would have said they stand a good chance to win this game. Now, after Cleveland won 51-45...I'm not so confident anymore. I REALLY don't want to go 0-3.
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:59 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Pennington might be out of a job though,because Kellen Clemens didn't play too bad considering it was his first NFL start,against a killer defense on their home turf.
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His last 2 or 3 minutes were pretty weak though. Although one of the passes was dropped (Probably 'cause the Jets aren't used to a QB with any arm strength  ), there were about 3 or 4 times where he threw passes that would have been touchdowns had they been placed about three inches better. Overall a great fourth-quarter for Clemens (the first three were pretty mediocre), but I would certainly not go so far as to say that this kid is gonna permanently replace Chad once Penning recovers.
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Pezmerga
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:54 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Pezmerga wrote:
Bengals fan here!
Time for a good ol' Cleveland Browns whoopin! 535 minutes till kick off! |
Boy...what a defensive battle that was. 
**sarcasm** |
Yeah....That was....Depressing...
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Greg W
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 18:12 |
NaturalScience wrote:
First, last night pleased me immensely. 
As a Patriots fan, I'll post something from ESPN's Bill Simmons, an unabashed Pats fan, who summed up my feelings better than I could. It'll be my only post on the subject.
"everyone's talking about the other teams and implying they were the victims. What about Pats fans? How did we deserve this? Our favorite team cheated, we lost a No. 1 pick, our coach pulled the football version of the Watergate break-in, our entire mini-dynasty has been tainted according to the outside world. ... Seriously, what did we ever do other than support a perpetually crappy franchise with a bad stadium for years and years and years? Do you think we wanted any of this to happen? All week, I almost felt like I did something wrong just because I rooted for these guys. Well, no more. Call them cheaters, call them villains, call them the evil empire, but it's still my team. You can't disown your team just because it does something sleazy, just like you can't disown a close family member for doing something sleazy. Your team is your team. I hate what happened, I think it has been terribly overblown, we paid the price, and we're moving on."
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As Al Davis's motto is..."just win baby"...as far as I'm concerned, cheating is part of the game. If you won some games because of it, all the better for you. The only thing they did wrong was get caught.
More rules have been implemented because of Raider infractions(stickum, wrapping your arms with casts and using them as clubs, spearheading, forward fumble, etc,etc...if it gives you an edge, then do it. . Personally I felt the penalty they paid was too harsh.
What needs to change is this "emperor of Football" that we have as our commisioner right now. He is out of control with his heavy hammer of justice. Ray Lewis can get by scott free when he got involved with the murder of someone, but Micheal Vick is going to get hung for killing(which is sick and very uncool, and I am not condoning this) some dogs. I think the NFL's priorities are a bit out of whack.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 17:09 |
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I thought Jon Kitna would have a big year personally.
I don't see anything spectacular about him....but he can throw the
ball, has experience, and has an ungodly set of wide recievers.
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 11:35 |
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Don't look now but the Lions are 2 - 0. 8 more wins until Jon Kitna replaces Nostradamus as the holder of the most off-the-wall prediction to come true.
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Padraic
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 10:13 |
First, last night pleased me immensely. As a Patriots fan, I'll post something from ESPN's Bill Simmons, an unabashed Pats fan, who summed up my feelings better than I could. It'll be my only post on the subject. "everyone's talking about the other teams and implying they were the
victims. What about Pats fans? How did we deserve this? Our favorite
team cheated, we lost a No. 1 pick, our coach pulled the football
version of the Watergate break-in, our entire mini-dynasty has been
tainted according to the outside world. ... Seriously, what did we ever
do other than support a perpetually crappy franchise with a bad stadium
for years and years and years? Do you think we wanted any of this to
happen? All week, I almost felt like I did something wrong just because
I rooted for these guys. Well, no more. Call them cheaters, call them
villains, call them the evil empire, but it's still my team. You can't
disown your team just because it does something sleazy, just like you
can't disown a close family member for doing something sleazy. Your
team is your team. I hate what happened, I think it has been terribly
overblown, we paid the price, and we're moving on."
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 09:38 |
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Cowboys 2-0 for the first time in a long, long spell. They get a real test next week against the Bears, though. Romo looks like the real deal but T.O. continues to be an embarassment with his showboating. Just play the game and grow up, dude!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 00:26 |
Glad the Ravens won today,they looked a lot better than last week.
Pennington might be out of a job though,because Kellen Clemens didn't play too bad considering it was his first NFL start,against a killer defense on their home turf.
I got a little worried towards the end of the game because the Jets were starting to rally.
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 22:16 |
f**king Packers 
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 20:46 |
Pezmerga wrote:
Bengals fan here!
Time for a good ol' Cleveland Browns whoopin! 535 minutes till kick off! |
Boy...what a defensive battle that was.
**sarcasm**
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Greg W
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 20:43 |
Well I said the Raiders would at least be respectable losers. Lost again in OT against the very hated Broncos. I cannot stand Shanahan. First he sabotages the Raiders when he is their head coach. Then he goes into Denver and beats them regularily.
Today took the cake...we kick a 52 yard winning fieldgoal( a damned hard fieldgoal to make BTW) and that b*****d supposedly calls a timeout a fraction of a second before the ball is snapped. So we miss the second try and they go on to win the game. I so badly wanted to wipe away the smug look of satisfaction off his face. I hate that prick.
what a chump. 
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 20:28 |
Pezmerga wrote:
Bengals fan here!
Time for a good ol' Cleveland Browns whoopin! 535 minutes till kick off! |
Just saw the final score. Maybe you might want to edit your original post. E
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 18:49 |
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Wow.....G-men lose again, to the packers...... The team is lettin Eli down.
Holy sh*t: The Saints lose to the Bucs, and now are 0-2
Browns beat the Bengals 51-45
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