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Poll Question: Nominate one, pick three
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Oh, dear, it's probably just that it (Classical Gas) wasn't played much in Portugal when it was a big hit (1968).  Music used to be so much more regional before the internet came into play.  

Glad you enjoyed Tom's music.  Unexpected changes were kind of a hallmark in his music.  Smile
Music was even more regional at the time here because of the political filter. American music, especially Jazz, was considered too revolutionary in the eyes of the narrow-minded state.

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First listen into page 3 thus far:

Dr wu23:  Joe Walsh “Midnight Moodies”  I do know this one, I also have had the pleasure of meeting Joe Walsh, he and my ex-employer, Geordie Hormel, hung out together a lot.  You’ll be pleased to know that he’s a lot of fun, very witty and of course, a pretty darned good musician.  I hate it when you like someone’s music and they end up being a jerk.  Nope, not this time.  I have not heard this in a very long time, thank you.  😊

suitkees:  The Durutti Column “Sketch For A Summer” Begins with some pretty birdcalls sounds, then some shuffling bass and shimmery guitar over that.  I always like a “watery,” guitar sound.  This does have a great feeling of the light and ease of summer to it.  

George:  Us, Today “Greetings From The Master,” live version.  They are fun to watch, and yes, it does have a different feel.  I do like this version a bit better.  Band-Maid “onset” They are very energetic and great players.  If I were at the show, I’d have to keep my eyes closed because of all of the strobe work going on.  Good, driving instrumental.

I Prophesy Disaster: Nektar “The Nine Lifeless Daughters of the Sun” I didn’t listen much to Nektar back in the day, so don’t remember this one.  I quite enjoy the early prog sound of this, it has a very nostalgic feel for me.  This is my favourite of yours this time around, I have to say.

Samuel:  Dungen  “Flickor Och Pojkar”  Very light feeling, airy sound with some percussion accents.  I really like this, good spacy music.


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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

I was just listening to this song in the car, I thought I'd make it my fourth choice. It sounds like a strange but pleasant dream.
Dungen - Flickor Och Pojkar 

That one didn't work here....here is for others who may also encounter this:  
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Thanks for comments on my songs, although I'm more undecided about the song I'll nominate now :D

A few notes on what I heard so far:

Nickie: Your husband's song was my favourite, that change halfway was quite unexpected. Never heard "Classical Gas" before, I guess I'm not everyone :P

Oh, dear, it's probably just that it (Classical Gas) wasn't played much in Portugal when it was a big hit (1968).  Music used to be so much more regional before the internet came into play.  

Glad you enjoyed Tom's music.  Unexpected changes were kind of a hallmark in his music.  Smile
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

What are these polls about exactly? Never got them and I see quite a lot of them. I'd be grateful if someone explains the nature of an 'Interactive poll' to an ignorant forum user like me. Big smile

Like what Sam said. More generally, it's a way to share music you like with others. Usually, polls run in two parts as described. There's a nominating period where you might suggest up to four songs and get feedback from others. Then you decide on your one nominee for the poll. After all nominees are in, there's a voting period where you vote on your three favorites (not including your own). Sometimes, we have a poll theme (this week: instrumentals 5 minutes or less, last week: any electronic music), and other times, it can be whatever you want. Often, we restrict to non-PA database artists. We have had a couple of prog themed polls too.  

I am couple of months behind, but this link http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123466 will take you to a post with links to past polls. You can see how the polls have evolved and some of the past themes.


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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

What are these polls about exactly? Never got them and I see quite a lot of them. I'd be grateful if someone explains the nature of an 'Interactive poll' to an ignorant forum user like me. Big smile
I put the usual rules in the opening post:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

This time you will choose instrumental songs under 5 minutes. Wordless vocals are allowed.

Your choices can be from any genre, including artists on PA, but try to pick lesser-known songs/bands.

As usual, you can mention up to four songs and next week you'll be asked to nominate one to be featured in the poll. After everyone has nominated theirs you can vote for three songs, not including your own.
 


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What are these polls about exactly? Never got them and I see quite a lot of them. I'd be grateful if someone explains the nature of an 'Interactive poll' to an ignorant forum user like me. Big smile
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I was just listening to this song in the car, I thought I'd make it my fourth choice. It sounds like a strange but pleasant dream.


Dungen - Flickor Och Pojkar


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Thanks for comments on my songs, although I'm more undecided about the song I'll nominate now :D

A few notes on what I heard so far:

Greg: Devil In The Kitchen was my favourite, really fun song. Rodrigo y Gabriela is very impressive to watch, I'm envious of those skills, but as a song it's not to interesting.

Kees: First time I heard REO Speedwagon, and it's really good. It reminded me of The Cars, I guess they're from around the same time? The Tętes Raides song is so funny.

Mike: I've been wanting to check out French TV for a while, this song made me even more curious. The Scott Cossu was very enjoyable but I'd probably tag it as Soft Jazz rather than New Age.

Nickie: Your husband's song was my favourite, that change halfway was quite unexpected. Never heard "Classical Gas" before, I guess I'm not everyone :P

Thomas: Cool song and video, nice and cheesy :D

Lewian: I'll be checking out more from Salaryman. The rhythm is constant but far from static. I loved the tone and melody of the theremin.

Lorenzo: The Stormy Six video is not available. The first song was easily my favourite.

Cristi: Too bad the Phoenix song is over 5 minutes. For me Post Scriptum is still the best from the bunch, very unpredictable and far from being just a technical piece.

George: I never heard that Goblin soundtrack but it sounds like a ominous (a new word I learned, thanks Nickie) version of "Watcher of the Skies". I'm glad you wrote the notes I was scratching my head about where I knew that Pell Mell song from.

IPD: I'm actually not familiar with Frankenstein, I just heard it on Guitar Hero :P Man, that Fred Frith track is terrific! I saw his trio around this time last year, seems like a lifetime away :/
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:


Nickie  - I have to say I was rather taken by Tom's instrumental and would put it as my favorite.  Mason Williams I've seen live before, by himself and with Mannheim Steamroller when he did his stint with them.  I Also enjoyed Aryeh Frankfurter

  Thank you for your kind words, Mike.  I probably will put that one up, I don't enter his music much after all.  Aryeh is also a violinist and nyckelharper, very accomplished musician.  His short-lived progressive band, Azigza, is in PA.  

Mason Williams did some very funny songs as well, which started as poems, "Them.....Whatevers"  There's a funny YT of him on the Johnny Cash show reciting one.  We had "The Mason Williams Reader," as well as "The Mason Williams Record Album," at my home, growing up.  I still do have the LP.  Had to find the video, very silly and think people will enjoy it....

Also, you are not a slacker!


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For my third submission, it's a shame to break up a great concept album for one track that obeys the rules:
 
 
Nektar - The Nine Lifeless Daughters of the Sun
 

 
 
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Sam (Meltdowner) - The one that left the biggest impression on me was Calibro 35.

The Dark Elf - Too familiar with Michael Hedges already as I always have loved his style.  I have to go with the quirkiness/punkish vibe of "Devil in the Kitchen"

suitkees - My favorite out of your bunch was "Climax 4", though I really liked the too short "OK".  The REO track I am already too familiar with as it is from their best album and one that I always loved.  

Nickie  - I have to say I was rather taken by Tom's instrumental and would put it as my favorite.  Mason Williams I've seen live before, by himself and with Mannheim Steamroller when he did his stint with them.  I Also enjoyed Aryeh Frankfurter

Father Christmas - some great selections from the Archives there, sorry they were over the time limit.  I'm a big fan of Thank You Scientist.  "Cloud-Burst" was fun, but not as interesting

Lewian - So far I've only listened to Salaryman, which I really liked a lot.  I own the Joe Jackson album, so I'm already familiar with that excellent track.  I haven't listened to the other one yet.

Lorenzo - I must be in the quirky mood this time around because I really enjoyed the Cassiber track most of all.  Unfortunately, Stormy Six is showing unavailable but I'll try to have a listen to it later.

That's as far as this slacker has gotten so far.  I'll try to make a few comments on the others later this weekend.

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Some extra posting. This is a live version of the Us, Today track I had posted before. I found this interesting as they put an effect on the vibraphone so that it sounded different from the album track, giving it a more rock/metallic feel. 



And then I've really been enjoying the hard rock of Band-Maid lately. I had posted a track in a previous poll, but they weren't a nominee. This is an instrumental that's part of their live set. A talented group of musicians. The drummer is fantastic (and really happy). At the top of this style right now. They can probably drop the maid imagery at this point. I think they are poised for success outside of Japan.


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I'm enjoying the variety here. I've been through most of these in random play over the past couple of days. I won't comment on every track.

Sam (Meltdowner): My favorite is the Calibro 35. I like the 60's vibe with organ sound. Make me think of "Green Onions" in spirit. And then followed by the sax. The other were good but I've been in more lively mood.

Greg (The Dark Elf): I know/have all but the Leo Kottke, and the Kottke track is the winner. A great listen. And I need to fix that I own no Kottke recordings. I got the Ashley MacIsaac album back when he had a hit with "Sleeping Maggie". Really liked that whole album. 

suitkees: The REO Speedwagon was a good surprise. I only think of them (with Styx) for being at the top of the charts in 1981 for Hi Infidelity (Paradise Theater for Styx). Slick album rock for that year. I've seen the name The Durutti Column but had never listened. I liked this one. It edges out REO Speedwagon as my favorite of yours. 

Mike (TCat): As usual, a good mix and lots to like. My favorite is Jon Hassell & Bluescreen "G-Spot".  Can't go wrong with a rhythm section of Flea and Brain. And I definitely enjoyed the "glitches" throughout. Did they also add some Miles Davis samples to go under his own trumpet? French TV is a close second. I like that eclecticism. Though out of competition, I did prefer "Ciel Oevert" of the Yello tracks. The other one felt more like a build up to more music than a piece that stood by itself.

Nickie (Snicolette): First, thanks for your feedback. Enjoyable as always to hear your insights on everyone's tracks. My favorites were Mason Williams and your husband's track. I think I'll give the edge to Mason Williams with Deborah Henson-Conant. (Also, nice of Greg to post the Glenn Cambell live version. I enjoyed that as well.)

FatherChristmas: I always think "Give us the money." when I see your screen name. LOL Cool to see Ultra Seven in action with Ultraman Leo. I liked that "Cloud-Burst" track. 

Lewian: Salaryman "My Hands Are Always In Water" is my favorite, just edging out Startled Insects, which I enjoyed too.

Lornezo (jamesbaldwin): I like the sonic ethnic trip taken with your selections. That said, I liked the 'elephant' noise form Cassiber and that was my favorite of your selections.

Cristi: I appreciate your selections into Eastern Europe. So much I am unfamilar with. I recognize that Club A compilation cover for another band in previous poll. This one by basorelief is my favorite, but I enjoyed the track by Cromwell. The synths reminded me of the synths on Rush's "Signals" album. And the one by Post Scriptum, I enjoyed, but it was more for the parts, than it summing up to a whole. Enescu has been a few times, and my favorite is the first one that was posted, which goes back a ways. Maybe the third poll?

I prophesy disaster: Frankenstein is an absolute all time classic for sure. Great track. I have some Fred Frith in my collection but not that one. 

Scott (rushfan4): Good to see your contributions. Can always count on you for some good hard rock tracks. I think Ronnie Montrose gets underappreciated, so nice to see him here. I feel like Europe is a secret favorite that shows up (not just by you) throughout these polls. Good to see Izz here. My favorite would be the Montrose track followed by Izz.

dr. wu23: I enjoyed that Joe Walsh number.



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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

First batch of listening and feedback:

Snicolette: Well, sorry but you're not winning me over with the harp pieces; especially as solo instrument it doesn't captivate me. I like some of Stivell's folk rock work (had an album once on cassette, which was very good), but this one leaves me cold. Frankfurter's piece is more interesting though and Mason Williams & Deborah Henson's Classical Gas even more (although I prefer the Glen Campbell version by far). Your order of presentation is my order of preference: the best one for the last, Tom Kelly's God and the Flatlanders. I like how this one evolves from a more classical overture into a more layered and rock tinged track, without losing those classical qualities. Wished it was longer...

Understandable, if you are not a fan of the instrument (I actually play it, so  it is a favourite of mine and do listen to a wide variety of harpists).  Thanks for giving it a chance, though!  And thank you for the kind comments re Tom's music.  It is part of a 25 minute suite, in actuality, but does stand alone well enough.  Short (and suite) was the order of the day for this poll, after all.  
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And, as a bonus, since we are all longing for Summer again:

The Durutti Column - Sketch For A Summer:


 

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Second batch of listening and feedback:

mathman: The problem of film music often is, to me, that without the film it looses some of what makes it interesting. So with Goblin: the theme is interesting, but it drags on to long for a track without the film accompanying it... Pell Mell is very good on the other hand, nice atmosphere, but the outro is a bit lingering. John 5 is quite in a hurry with his Creatures, nice but a bit conventional to my ears. Us, Today is clearly my preferred one of your selection, very energetic with some nice interplay and alternating sections, very musical.

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: Ah, it's been quite a while that I haven't heard the Edgar Winter Group. Classic! And a great classic it is - you hear the fun they have playing this. Like it very much and it is nice to hear it again.
Fred Frith, I really like this kind of unrest he creates in his music - it has some King Crimson over it. Put this up in a restaurant and people will at least stop eating, maybe run away! Very good! (but not for the restaurant) Between these two, my choice depends on the mood of the moment.

Rushfan4: Europe, a bit of nostalgia. Their albums never convinced me but back when they had their big hits I really liked some of their songs. This one is rather straightforward, but that is something I can appreciate (e.g. REO Speedwagon). It is just a great listen! The next two are a good listen too, but I'm more reserved aoubt them: I have two or three albums by IZZ, and I generally quite like their music, but The Mists of Dalriada is a bit disappointing to me; the Irish-like folk riff is nice but it doesn't go much beyond that. With Lillian Axe I remain a bit underwhelmed too: it is very nice, but it is typically a track that comes in between two heavy tracks on an album so the listener can breathe for a moment. So, maybe I should listen to the album? Ronnie Montrose's Rocky Road has a very classic feel, but classic in the good sense! Always a pleasare to listen to. I think this is my preferred one.

Dr Wu23: Well, I guess you can't go wrong with Joe Walsh. The songwriting and musical qualities transpire through this track too. Just a sheer pleasure to listen to!


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Cristi: (some of the songs are too long re the criteria defined in the OP...) Nice to discover some Roumanian music, with Basorelief, Adrian Enescu (he was also in an earlier poll!) and Post Scriptum. The funky side of Adrian Enescu is not what I prefer, and Post Scriptum seem to be more a show-case piece than a song, but it is a nice performance. Phoenix has a nice festive quality, but my preference goes to the fusion of Basorelief.
You know that prog metal is not my stuff: Cromwell has some good moments, but Walking Across Jupiter they can walk without me.


Basorelief was a band that never got a full album from the only recording company Electrecord  that existed in communist Romania, they were present with a couple of songs on a split compilation. They reformed and have a full length album on bandcamp, but the music is too polished, I'll give it another chance. 

I don't know what song to use. Phoenix is not a contender, like I said, it's got 6 minutes. 

Post Scriptum shared a similar fate as Basorelief, until they were convinced to make a pop-rock album back in the early 80s. Romanian old bands are scarce on youtube, I'm happy a video like that exists. The song is called Urme de Pasi pe Infinit which means Footstep Traces on Infinity. Tongue 


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First batch of listening and feedback:

Meltdowner: I generally quite like your suggestions in these polls, same here. Calibre 35 has a nice retro sound with a modern vibe, but something is lacking to be really captivating to my ears. Brother and Sister's Magick and Mystic has indeed those magic and mystic qualities, rather dreamy and spacey (a bit Gong-like by moments); nice, but not the most original. Bando do Casaco, I think I prefer this one, it has something discomforting and at the same time it is fascinatingly beautiful, a pity that it is so short.

The Dark Elf: Wow, there's some tremendously good playing going on in your selections! Leo Kottke's piece is beautiful and captivating. The playing of Rodrigo and Gabriela is stunning and nice to watch, but the song itself is a bit disappointing to me. Musically speaking I prefer Michael Hegdes over R&G, here. The energitc punk-folk (or whatever) from The Devil in the Kitchen is a great listen too, but from all these I prefer Leo Kottke.

TCat: French TV have come by in several threads recently and every time I quite like what I hear,. This one too, but I also have the impression that there is a bit too much going on in just one song... hesitating... The Jon Hassell & Bluescreen piece (nice cover art!) is very nice and groovy, but I'm not sure where it is going. Scott Cossu, Yes, this could be played in a restaurant without disturbing the customers, but musically speaking it is a very pleasant listen; there is more going on than a first impression could suggest. With Yello I have always had the same problem: when I hear a song I find it great, but when I listen then to the whole album I am disappointed - too much of the same. I prefer Ciel ouvert, Stalakdrama is bit too grotesque for me, Sonically speaking they are both indeed very impressive, but music-wise I am a lot less impressed. I prefer one of the other three but don't know which one yet...

Snicolette: Well, sorry but you're not winning me over with the harp pieces; especially as solo instrument it doesn't captivate me. I like some of Stivell's folk rock work (had an album once on cassette, which was very good), but this one leaves me cold. Frankfurter's piece is more interesting though and Mason Williams & Deborah Henson's Classical Gas even more (although I prefer the Glen Campbell version by far). Your order of presentation is my order of preference: the best one for the last, Tom Kelly's God and the Flatlanders. I like how this one evolves from a more classical overture into a more layered and rock tinged track, without losing those classical qualities. Wished it was longer...

FatherChristmas: I'm not much into djent-filled heavy prog or prog metal, but Cloud-Burst is not unpleasant. Nice interplay between instruments with some straightforward but nevertheless captivating riffs and a nice closer. Super-silly clip though ;)

Lewian: Salaryman, didn't know them so this is a nice discovery. You hear that a good production is important for this kind of music. Great track, good groove, wonderful interplay and not that monotonous to my ears (makes me think a bit of Sonar...). I think I prefer them over Startling Insects' Underworld which is very good too, but I find it less captivating than Salaryman. Regarding Joe Jackson, back in the 80s I listened to several of his albums but always turned back to Night and Day, the only one that really convinced me (and that I have) - Nocturne won't change that.

jamesbaldwin: You bring us on a nice trip around the Mediterranean. With Gilad Atzmon Klezmer is brought back to the Balkan but not without picking up some jazz underway. Very nice listen! Roxanne's Passion Tango is quite good too, but rather classic in it's approach (I started to like tango thanks to Carlos Saura's tango-films...). I very much like the more experimental Cassiber with Chor der Gefangenen. Unfortunately, Stormy Six is not available to me and I couldn't find an alternative. My choice would be between Gilad Atzmon and Cassiber, probably depends of the mood of the moment.

Cristi: (some of the songs are too long re the criteria defined in the OP...) Nice to discover some Roumanian music, with Basorelief, Adrian Enescu (he was also in an earlier poll!) and Post Scriptum. The funky side of Adrian Enescu is not what I prefer, and Post Scriptum seem to be more a show-case piece than a song, but it is a nice performance. Phoenix has a nice festive quality, but my preference goes to the fusion of Basorelief.
You know that prog metal is not my stuff: Cromwell has some good moments, but Walking Across Jupiter they can walk without me.



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