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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:43
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Lou Reed - Berlin

This one I actually feel would fit in nicely around here. If we one day were able to include sole prog albums by artists that otherwise kept to their pop/hiphop/rock/countrywestern, then I'd definitely vote for this one! My fave from from good old Lou as well.

In that same category: Serge Gainsbourge - Histoire de Melody Nelson (The prog quotient probably came from Vannier who orchestrated the music though)
I've seen you posting Gainsbourge lately, and have been meaning to ask about him.  I'll check it out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:41
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I agree with a lot of those SteveCool
There are however some that I have never heard of before, which definitely are going on my list. Dean highlighted one of those, but Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti and Subhumans sound remarkably like something I should enjoy as well. Thanks for the info buddyThumbs Up

Uhh another one I see as a masterpiece, although it's been ages since I gave it a listen, is Type O Negative's October RustHeart
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Hope you like Ariel Pink.  I think you and I are similar in some ways, so it just might hit you like a train the way it did me. It really felt like he was channeling my subconscious.  Yeah I know, I'm weird. Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:33
Cradle of Filth- Dusk and Her Embrace (this album at least should probably be on the archives, but whatever I love it).
Emperor- In the Nightshade Eclipse
Fleet Foxes- Fleet Foxes
Jane's Addiction- Nothing's Shocking, Ritual De Lo Habitual
Joanna Newsome- Ys
Living Colour- Stain
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Mother's Milk; Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik, By the Way

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:32
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Masterpiece albums that are not on PA, with a quick description of each:

Jack Bruce: Harmony Row (1971) -- 2nd solo album from the main singer/writer for Cream.  Talented on bass, guitar, piano, organ, and cello as well as vocals, Jack produces a dreamy batch of art pop melodies with ambitious, quirky arrangements.  Helped out on guitar and drums by Chris Spedding and John Marshall.  This is better than any Cream album, IMO.



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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24804

And I agree, damn fine album, wonderful!   He's released some superb ones and this is probably his best, or at least, my favourite. (Although I swing between this and 'Songs for a Tailor' as fav)
Jack's on PA?  Well cool then.  I'll have to give that puppy five stars.
I love Songs for a Tailor a lot too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:30
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:


Jo Jo Gunne: Jumpin' the Gunne (1973) -- Semi-obscure spin-off of Spirit, with former Spirit frontman Jay Ferguson leading the way.  This is intelligent and highly evolved boogie rock, like an amped-up Guess Who.  Just one of those albums where every song makes me jump with glee.
I had their eponymous debut, bought on the strength of Run, Run, Run, but they kind of disapeared from the UK record stores after that. I recall on seeing it much later that "Jumpin' the Gunne" has one of the most, erm, let's say, bizarre, covers I've ever seen. Shocked
Yes it is.  Probably scared a lot of people away, thus its obscurity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:18
Lou Reed - Berlin

This one I actually feel would fit in nicely around here. If we one day were able to include sole prog albums by artists that otherwise kept to their pop/hiphop/rock/countrywestern, then I'd definitely vote for this one! My fave from from good old Lou as well.

In that same category: Serge Gainsbourge - Histoire de Melody Nelson (The prog quotient probably came from Vannier who orchestrated the music though)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:11
Television - Marquee Moon and Adventure
The Go Betweens - Oceans Apart
Lloyd Cole & the Commotions - Mainstream
Kinks - Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround Part One and Muswell Hillbillies
Mighty Lemon Drops - World Without End
Monochrome Set - Strange Boutique
Cure - 17 Seconds, Pornography and Disintegration
Anima Sound System - We Strike
Ice T - Home Invasion
Echo & the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here
Fall - Hex Enduction Hour, the Unutterable
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Juju
Jimmy Smith - Any Number Can Win, The Cat and Bashin' (I reckon any Jazz I like can't really be Jazz)
Kenny Burrell - Night at the Vanguard (I reckon any Jazz I like can't really be Jazz)
Magazine - Real Life
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream
Rolling Stones - Beggars banquet, Let it Bleed, Ya Ya's, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street
Velvet Underground - début
Lou Reed - New York
Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Tomorrow Belongs to Me
Bassomatic - Set the Controls for the heart of the Bass
Divine Comedy - Regeneration
Patti Smith - Wave
Tom Verlaine - Dreamtime
Prefab Sprout - Swoon
Heaven 17 - Penthouse and Pavement
Wall of Voodoo - Call of the West
Stan Ridgway - Mosquitoes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 09:07
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

What non-prog (and non proto prog and prog related) pop and rock albums to you consider to be masterpieces? 

That leaves out all jazz, classical, avantgarde and basically most of my faves, but I guess I can still think of a few hundreds.... Here's a few random ones:

Selda - Selda. The queen of turkish psych 1976 (guess maybe she should be on PA).









Googoosh - Do Panjereh. No way I'm gonna link to that awful CD reissue. What's the deal with asian record companies always wanting to use updated images of the artists when they reissue classics? Don't they want to sell albums? This makes it look like all their big stars are chubby old grandmother with bad tastes in clothes. And don't get me started on the fonts and design.





Finders Keepers got a killer Googoosh comp out (they re-relased Selda as well) 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 08:37
I agree with a lot of those SteveCool
There are however some that I have never heard of before, which definitely are going on my list. Dean highlighted one of those, but Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti and Subhumans sound remarkably like something I should enjoy as well. Thanks for the info buddyThumbs Up

Uhh another one I see as a masterpiece, although it's been ages since I gave it a listen, is Type O Negative's October RustHeart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 08:35
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Masterpiece albums that are not on PA, with a quick description of each:

Jack Bruce: Harmony Row (1971) -- 2nd solo album from the main singer/writer for Cream.  Talented on bass, guitar, piano, organ, and cello as well as vocals, Jack produces a dreamy batch of art pop melodies with ambitious, quirky arrangements.  Helped out on guitar and drums by Chris Spedding and John Marshall.  This is better than any Cream album, IMO.



Jack's here Wink

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24804

And I agree, damn fine album, wonderful!   He's released some superb ones and this is probably his best, or at least, my favourite. (Although I swing between this and 'Songs for a Tailor' as fav)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 08:29
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:


Jo Jo Gunne: Jumpin' the Gunne (1973) -- Semi-obscure spin-off of Spirit, with former Spirit frontman Jay Ferguson leading the way.  This is intelligent and highly evolved boogie rock, like an amped-up Guess Who.  Just one of those albums where every song makes me jump with glee.
I had their eponymous debut, bought on the strength of Run, Run, Run, but they kind of disapeared from the UK record stores after that. I recall on seeing it much later that "Jumpin' the Gunne" has one of the most, erm, let's say, bizarre, covers I've ever seen. Shocked
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Masterpiece albums that are not on PA, with a quick description of each:

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: Before Today (2010) -- All those catchy little hooks that occur to you in the shower or just as you're getting out of bed, come together in a collision of kaleidoscopic lo-fi wonderment.  I discovered it about a year ago and I still listen to this album (and all his other things) obsessively.  An absolute knockout.

Fiery Furnaces: Blueberry Boat (2004) -- Long, convoluted song/mazes with surreal lyrics, performed by a brother/sister duo.  This is their most "prog" album, but I'd be hard pressed to call them a prog band.  They certainly get "out there", though, more so than just about any indie rock band I've heard.  In fact, they're very hard to get into; I have yet to convert anybody.

Jack Bruce: Harmony Row (1971) -- 2nd solo album from the main singer/writer for Cream.  Talented on bass, guitar, piano, organ, and cello as well as vocals, Jack produces a dreamy batch of art pop melodies with ambitious, quirky arrangements.  Helped out on guitar and drums by Chris Spedding and John Marshall.  This is better than any Cream album, IMO.

The Kinks: Something Else (1967) -- The Kinks during this period wrote some of the most incredible songs I've ever heard, second only to the Beatles.  In fact, if we just looked at singles, the Kinks might actually win.  No concept/opera here, just a group of miniature portraits of English characters, both tragic and humorous.

Dead Kennedys: Plastic Surgery Disasters (1982) -- Speedy hardcore with lyrics that count.  The riffy songs go by in a murky roar, with singer Jello Biafra spitting out sarcastic indictments of society.  The first side barely gives you time to breathe; the second side concentrates on longer, more dramatic pieces.  And it ends with a super melodic anthem, a sad but resigned piece about beach pollution.

The Fall: This Nation's Saving Grace (1985) -- The Fall could do no wrong in the years 1980-1986, and this is the most focused and powerful statement they'd released yet.  Major influence from the likes of Can, but with even more slashing guitar and nagging bass hooks.

Jo Jo Gunne: Jumpin' the Gunne (1973) -- Semi-obscure spin-off of Spirit, with former Spirit frontman Jay Ferguson leading the way.  This is intelligent and highly evolved boogie rock, like an amped-up Guess Who.  Just one of those albums where every song makes me jump with glee.

Subhumans: From the Cradle to the Grave (1983) -- My favorite punk album of all time.  This is punk with prog attitude -- side two is one lengthy suite (the 17 minute title track), which ties together a bunch of different sections and culminates in a glorious climax.

XTC: Skylarking (1986) -- XTC's peak.  Both Partridge and Moulding were at the top of their songwriting game, and producer Todd Rundgren gives it his all as well, tying the excellent songs together into a cohesive song cycle, beginning with sunny hope and ending with death and darkness.

Just a few faves of mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 08:02
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Good to see someone appreciating the Fields of the Nephilim. I saw them on the Elyzium tour, and they were mindblowing. I often think they should be taken a little more seriously. Well, their music if not their image..

I could have picked more than Elizium, but that one is outstanding. I'm a sad old goth and a huge Nephs and Neph-related fan: Rubicon, Nefilim, Sensorium, Saint's Of Eden, Last Rites, NFD and The Eden House - all good stuff.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 07:55
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Has no-one else heard Matthew Sweet's `Altered Beast'?! One of my all-time favourites!
I have a friend who cites that as her favorite album of all time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 07:51
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


Good to see someone appreciating the Fields of the Nephilim. I saw them on the Elyzium tour, and they were mindblowing. I often think they should be taken a little more seriously. Well, their music if not their image..
I could have picked more than Elizium, but that one is outstanding. I'm a sad old goth and a huge Nephs and Neph-related fan: Rubicon, Nefilim, Sensorium, Saint's Of Eden, Last Rites, NFD and The Eden House - all good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 07:29
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Paradise Lost - Draconian Times.

Sweet - Give Us A Wink

Stray - Suicide

T.Rex - Electric Warrior

The The - Mindbomb

This Mortal Coil - everything

Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju, A Kiss In The Dreamhouse

XTC - Drums & Wires, English Settlement, Big Express... etc.

Cure - Seventeen Seconds

Cocteau Twins - Treasure

Comsat Angels - Waiting For A Miracle

Icicleworks - The Small Price Of A Bicycle

Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

KLF - White Room

Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps

Danielle Dax - Jesus Egg That Wept

John Foxx - The Garden

The Lover Speaks - s/t

Ian McNabb - Truth and Beauty

Modern English - Mesh and Lace

Fields of the Nephilim - Elizium

Gary Numan - Pure

The Passage - Pindrop

Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out

Shellian Orphan - Helleborine

Ultravox! - Systems Of Romance

Michael Hedges - Ariel Boundaries

The Pop Group - For How Much Longer are We Going to Tolerate This Mass Murder

The Shamen - In Gorbachev We trust

Pop Will Eat Itself - Everything they ever did except the last one.

Sisters Of Mercy = Floodland

The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus

Emperor - Anthems For The Welkin At Dusk, IX Equilibrium

Fear Factory - Demanufacture/Remanufacture

Cradle Of Filth - Cruelty And The Beast

Primordial - Imrama

 

 


I would agree with many on this list.

Good to see someone appreciating the Fields of the Nephilim. I saw them on the Elyzium tour, and they were mindblowing. I often think they should be taken a little more seriously. Well, their music if not their image..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 07:13
If we're talking about non prog albums you can honestly say you consider to have no dud tracks on & which therefore you can listen to end to end repeatedly, then:

Robin Trower - Bridge Of Sighs
Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense
The The - Dusk
Juno Reactor - Labyrinth
The Mission - Children
Banco De Gaia - Last Train To Lhasa
Rory Gallagher - Stage Struck
System Of A Down - Hypnotise + Mesmerise
Charles Earland - Infant Eyes
The Orb/David Gilmour - Metallic Spheres
The Beatles - Abbey Road
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Boulevard
Bob Dylan - Desire
Nick Cave - Murder Ballads
White Stripes - Icky Thump

So many more...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 07:04
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by geogkrt geogkrt wrote:

Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
The Band - The Band AKA The Brown Album
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
Tom Waits - Bone Machine
 
The best Huey Louis and the News album!  Good choice it is a masterpiece great songs from start to end.  Bands often frontload their albums these days but EC didn't need or try to with this as it finishes as strongly as it starts.   I think its his best album but probabaly not progressive in any way LOL


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Paradise Lost - Draconian Times.
Sweet - Give Us A Wink
Stray - Suicide
T.Rex - Electric Warrior
The The - Mindbomb
This Mortal Coil - everything
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju, A Kiss In The Dreamhouse
XTC - Drums & Wires, English Settlement, Big Express... etc.
Cure - Seventeen Seconds
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
Comsat Angels - Waiting For A Miracle
Icicleworks - The Small Price Of A Bicycle
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
KLF - White Room
Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
Danielle Dax - Jesus Egg That Wept
John Foxx - The Garden
The Lover Speaks - s/t
Ian McNabb - Truth and Beauty
Modern English - Mesh and Lace
Fields of the Nephilim - Elizium
Gary Numan - Pure
The Passage - Pindrop
Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out
Shellian Orphan - Helleborine
Ultravox! - Systems Of Romance
Michael Hedges - Ariel Boundaries
The Pop Group - For How Much Longer are We Going to Tolerate This Mass Murder
The Shamen - In Gorbachev We trust
Pop Will Eat Itself - Everything they ever did except the last one.
Sisters Of Mercy = Floodland
The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
Emperor - Anthems For The Welkin At Dusk, IX Equilibrium
Fear Factory - Demanufacture/Remanufacture
Cradle Of Filth - Cruelty And The Beast
Primordial - Imrama
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2012 at 06:13
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

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