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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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It's such a different ouvre than the progressive one where lyrics can be important, but are not necessarily the primary consideration...and prog relies so much on the instrumentation. I agree, we can look up the lyrics (even in other languages) and often people will have provided a translation on the the YT, as well. At worst, Google translate, if necessary, as Raff said.
I can't guarantee that the male singer/songwriter genre itself will be "happy," Raff, indeed my openers are all a bit wistful, one even a bit chilling. But don't let others keep you away if they happen to have some sort of difference of opinion that they cannot express respectfully, that is truly more about them than you. I do greatly value your opinions on here, your insight and perspective. Cheerful, funny, and novelty songs are also very welcome, many in this genre cover the gamut of emotion and experience. |
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Updated List:
- Cristi (8/03) - Shadowyzard (8/10) - Raff (8/17) - TCat (8/24) - mathman0806 (8/31) - Jamesbaldwin (9/07) Logan, if he wills (9/14) I stop here then for the weeks after, we'll see. If anyone else wants to join the team, everyone is welcome here. Is it good for everyone?
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15683 |
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Easy for me in the sense that I like some singer/songwriter material for the music, but am fairly generally not interested in lyrics. ![]() Seriously, good topic! Even without lyrics (who wants them can look for them on their own). |
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10283 |
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I've been thinking about which song to pick since that topic was mentioned and it's hard to know if the songs are interesting without understanding the lyrics. I was also trying to translate some lyrics in English and had no idea how difficult it is to make them pleasant to read. The intricacies of Latin languages can make simple phrases sound much clever.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24440 |
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I am sorry not to have participated as much as I used to, but I have to admit to having been somewhat down on the forum in the past few days. Too many boring, repetitive topics, and too many belligerent people ![]() Anyway, Nickie's idea sounds fantastic, and I am sure both Lorenzo and I will come up with some interesting Italian suggestions. The lyrics thing is inconvenient, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Being a linguist, I am not a fan of Google Translate, whose results are often hilarious, but we don't want to risk getting the site in trouble by posting unauthorized material.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Oh yeah!
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 6864 |
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Admittedly, he did not sing nor write, but I thought of this Tom.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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![]() ![]() Edited by Snicolette - July 26 2020 at 20:45 |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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Well then Yeehah! I'll try to bring the big guns. ![]() That's Cher straddling a very big gun on a battleship from her "If I Could Turn Back Time" video. I wish she could turn back time and not have done that video. Seriously, I'm all for gun control and will leave the guns behind for the topic methinks. I can't promise that my singer/songwriter won't be very hairy, however. ![]() Edited by Logan - July 26 2020 at 19:40 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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![]() Edited by Snicolette - July 26 2020 at 19:22 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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How about male gunslinger/songwriters? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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Once again setting the bar high, thanks to Lewian for his Surprise poll! I will be posting the new poll either tomorrow or on Tuesday at the latest. This one, as discussed, will be male singer/songwriters. There's a wealth of them, so it will be interesting to hear what fans of prog also enjoy in another realm.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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^ That makes sense, thanks for that, it's appreciated.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Hi all, Sorry to intrude here, but
reading about copyright issues I thought I might give my two cents (from
my knowledge and experience in the audiovisual sector). Translations
do not replace the original copyright, but just add a new copyright:
The copyright of the original text remains valid but the translation is
also copyrighted (when you do a translation of a text and it is used by a
third party, they formally owe both the original copyright holder and
you for the translation). Copyright is, internationally, not regulated
in the same way everywhere, but this is relatively standard. Parodies are generally considered as original creations and do not (should not) be indebted to the original work. "Fair use" is quite a different, complicated chapter and depends for the moment much on case law ("jurisprudence" in French...). If/when you go this road you better get legal advice. And please, do not use Youtube as a reference of what is copyrighted (or free of use) or not. A lot of what is on YT is copyrighted, it is just that stakeholders take time to react or do not react at all. As said, my two cents... Best, K
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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Thinking about it, lyrics would of course make the postings extra long here, so no doing that will help with that potential problem. Most singer-songwriters are fairly clear in their enunciation, anyway, though not always!
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38986 |
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I was going to post something about that and fair use/ fair dealing laws but deleted it for clarity and because I'm no expert. I would think that translations might well be okay if done by yourself (or google translate and not official, unless with permission), as well as excerpts depending on the context, but I wasn't involved in the warning nor have I been advised by lawyers on such things. I am fairly familiar when it comes to copyright and fair use/fair dealing laws because I used to create parodies (long ago), and because of my job as it involves lots of quoting of material (that gets covered by fair use/fair dealing laws when done/ sourced correctly because of the context), but that's not the same situation as when quoting at this site, so...
If not linking to the lyrics (one would have to be very careful with where one links to too, lots of "bad" one there are themselves no internationally lawful, and some that have presented internet safety concerns, official sources being best), we could perhaps paraphrase bits: "The female is fond of thee, yes, yes, yes The female is fond of thee, yes, yes, yes The female is fond of thee, yes, yes, yes Having a fondness of that ilk Thee understands that thou should feel compelled to be pleased" (paraphrased from The Beatles' "She Loves You"). ;) Edited by Logan - July 22 2020 at 12:59 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6081 |
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Good question, Meltdowner.
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10283 |
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^^ Does that include translations of the lyrics?
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