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Mortte
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 22:44 |
Wigwam - Pink Floyd - King Crimson - Jethro Tull
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kenethlevine
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 22:28 |
Lewian wrote:
Tim Smith - Holger Czukay - Mark Hollis - Kate Bush
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bummer, I thought it might be Tim Smith from MIDLAKE but I'm guessing he's the one from the CARDIACS?
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Lewian
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 17:02 |
Tim Smith - Holger Czukay - Mark Hollis - Kate Bush
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Dopeydoc
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 15:27 |
Gentle Giant, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson
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YESESIS
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 08:51 |
So mine stands then.. I know it's not the official, objective list but it's my Mount Rushmore of Prog.
Yes
Genesis
Gentle Giant
Frank Zappa
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YESESIS
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 08:14 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: December 24 2017 at 06:49 |
YESESIS wrote:
That's the point I was trying to stress with this, that it's whoever each of you wants it to be. Sure, if I was to be 100% objective and leave my own personal feelings COMPLETELY out of it.. then I would also come up with Yes, Genesis, ELP, and KC lol. But I'd still be real tempted to try to find some room for Gentle Giant and my man Zappa(I honestly feel they both should be there somehow). Thank you all for your responses so far. There've been some interesting ones lol. | Ahhh alrighty then Franco Battiato David Gilmour Demetrio Stratos Dave Stewart
Edited by Guldbamsen - December 24 2017 at 06:52
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: December 23 2017 at 22:05 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Ian Anderson wore a 'codpiece'...? |
Why, yes. As a matter of fact....
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 23 2017 at 21:14 |
Ian Anderson wore a 'codpiece'...?
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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YESESIS
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Posted: December 22 2017 at 17:32 |
That's the point I was trying to stress with this, that it's whoever each of you wants it to be. Sure, if I was to be 100% objective and leave my own personal feelings COMPLETELY out of it.. then I would also come up with Yes, Genesis, ELP, and KC lol. But I'd still be real tempted to try to find some room for Gentle Giant and my man Zappa(I honestly feel they both should be there somehow). Thank you all for your responses so far. There've been some interesting ones lol.
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YESESIS
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Posted: December 22 2017 at 17:31 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill, Robert Fripp, Frank Zappa and Mani Neumeier. There has to be a representative of Krautrock on the monument
I would actually do it the way Deep Purple did and add a 5th head: Christian Vander.
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Hey, if you want all 4 of them to be German then, by all means. It's your Mount Rushmore of Prog.
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SteveG
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Posted: December 22 2017 at 08:02 |
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: December 22 2017 at 07:59 |
Mellotron Hammond Flute and multiple tom-toms
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Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: December 22 2017 at 07:57 |
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Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 16:19 |
My Mount Rushmore would be simply symbolic:
Ian Anderson's codpiece Rick Wakeman's cape Robert Fripp's spectacles Peter Gabriel's old man mask and floating above it all, Pink Floyd's pig, Algie.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:25 |
Usually the top 6 are asked about........I suppose for me it would be King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and ELP.....though I might change that to Tull on any given day.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Squonk19
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:05 |
If you consider the 'classic eras' of each of them - it has to be the ones who truly shaped prog: Genesis Yes, ELP and King Crimson. Make a bit more room and you could squeeze in Pink Floyd and Rush - although I still consider them less 'prog' than the big 4 overall - as they straddle genres a lot more. I love Jethro Tull - but I think their 'prog' credentials are not always that strong ('Thick as a Brick' excepting) - although a damn fine rock band they definitely are!
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“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 10:49 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Including Gentle Giant is perhaps stretching things a bit. GG were never that important or successful back in the 70s yet with the internet they've become prog's equivalent to Nick Drake or Talk Talk; two acts that also 'conquered' the internet well after their active years.
Four heads representant of pork? Has to be Brits. Most prog fans I bump into do not think of Krautrock as prog (nor do I) and most other artists from outside of the UK were either influenced by the Brits or conversely didn't influence the genre in a manner that rivals the daddyos.
Four heads?
Emmo Fripp Gabriel Wakie |
Regarding your comment about Gentle Giant I actually disagree though because at one point they were as big as Genesis and even had an album that charted higher than they did(Free Hand placed higher on the charts than SEBTP). They also regularly filled concert halls within the 2-5,000 seat range(roughly the same as early Genesis also). No they probably weren't played on the radio much but neither were most prog bands aside from a few of the most well known(JT, PF, Yes, ELP especially). I can assure you they were the next band down after King Crimson in terms of influence and popularity then(and probably even now)so it's not some revisionist thing like you are implying. I see you are only 35 so you obviously weren't around at the time(neither was I but I have spent a lot of time researching this online and also have had discussions with people(on and offline) who are old enough and can assure you they were very important and big in prog circles back then). Also, maybe part of this depends on where you live. I'm referring to the US mostly. Apparently in the UK they were not as big so I can see why someone not from there might think that. Your statement could possibly apply to VDGG but imo not GG.
| I too have spoken to quite a few people who were there from the beginning - some I consider very good friends, and their stories on GG do not mirror your's. Then again we're parted by the Atlantic ocean so I guess they could've had more success overseas than here. But we are talking about mount rushmore - 4 faces to adorn mighty bedrock epitomizing prog rock the genre. Putting anyone from Gentle Giant there over a member of say Yes, Floyd, Crimso, Jethro or Genesis sounds more like playing favourites than an objective look on what happened. |
I definitely think that's the case. GG were probably much bigger in the US than in the UK. I think I've even heard that GG were not that big in their homeland but that was also the case for other bands as well. But since Mount Rushmore is in the US......;)
Actually, I wouldn't put GG in the Mount Rushmore either as far as personal preference goes. I think the sum was greater than their parts as far as members go. With Yes, Squire often seems to stand out(although Howe and Wakeman were no slouches either).
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 21 2017 at 10:52
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Logan
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 10:22 |
SteveG wrote:
Sorry chaps, but any mount without Pink Floyd would only be a molehill. | I would posit that a moored inflatable pig hovering over Mount Rushmore would enhance that monument, and indeed flying pigs over other notable sites such as the Great Pyramid of Giza, the Eiffel Tower, Buckingham Palace, the Erga Palace in Riyadh (okay, that definitely wouldn't fly, nor would others in my list), the Kremlin, the White House, and Ryongsong Residence in Pyongyang would elevate the structures (not literally). To those who disagree, I don't give a flying fig.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: December 21 2017 at 10:08 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Including Gentle Giant is perhaps stretching things a bit. GG were never that important or successful back in the 70s yet with the internet they've become prog's equivalent to Nick Drake or Talk Talk; two acts that also 'conquered' the internet well after their active years.
Four heads representant of pork? Has to be Brits. Most prog fans I bump into do not think of Krautrock as prog (nor do I) and most other artists from outside of the UK were either influenced by the Brits or conversely didn't influence the genre in a manner that rivals the daddyos.
Four heads?
Emmo Fripp Gabriel Wakie |
Regarding your comment about Gentle Giant I actually disagree though because at one point they were as big as Genesis and even had an album that charted higher than they did(Free Hand placed higher on the charts than SEBTP). They also regularly filled concert halls within the 2-5,000 seat range(roughly the same as early Genesis also). No they probably weren't played on the radio much but neither were most prog bands aside from a few of the most well known(JT, PF, Yes, ELP especially). I can assure you they were the next band down after King Crimson in terms of influence and popularity then(and probably even now)so it's not some revisionist thing like you are implying. I see you are only 35 so you obviously weren't around at the time(neither was I but I have spent a lot of time researching this online and also have had discussions with people(on and offline) who are old enough and can assure you they were very important and big in prog circles back then). Also, maybe part of this depends on where you live. I'm referring to the US mostly. Apparently in the UK they were not as big so I can see why someone not from there might think that. Your statement could possibly apply to VDGG but imo not GG.
| I too have spoken to quite a few people who were there from the beginning - some I consider very good friends, and their stories on GG do not mirror your's. Then again we're parted by the Atlantic ocean so I guess they could've had more success overseas than here. But we are talking about mount rushmore - 4 faces to adorn mighty bedrock epitomizing prog rock the genre. Putting anyone from Gentle Giant there over a member of say Yes, Floyd, Crimso, Jethro or Genesis sounds more like playing favourites than an objective look on what happened.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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