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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2008 at 07:29
Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

would it be possible (without much development work) to add 'partial quoting' to the forums? What PE has is a mechanism that allows you to select a part of someone else's post using your mouse - then click 'Quote' and only the selected piece gets quoted. Very useful in long discussions!
A quick solution to that is to quote someone normally and before you post, just manually delete the parts you don't wish to quote... Example: I took out Bob's post as well as "Are you under stress, Bob?" from your original message.With all due respect (Stern%20Smile), is it really that much more difficult?


Not difficult at all.

"Very useful in long discussions" - Also, very useful in preventing interminable quote-pyramids.

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As I mentioned in another thread, I also am not over keen on the new thread page numbers... before they turned purple so I knew when I had visited a certain page, but now I have no idea, so I have had to go back a page or two to find when I last got too.
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Points: 65772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2008 at 00:11
^ yeah, just take out what you don't want

..if the link to a member's reviews in their Profile could be restored, it would be a tremendous help.. right now it's discouragingly hard to track down non-Collab (and even Collab) reviews  ..and of course the Latest Posts feature is still sorely missed-- with the current Last Post feature, if the same member posts twice in a row in a given thread, it is easy to miss.. this is important to have when team members are discussing something

thanks for all the work behind the scenes by M@x and graphix, it must be difficult trying to please everyone
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 23:41
That's what I do too, CR.
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Points: 894 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 23:28
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:


Maybe this also doesn't belong here, but I noticed it in on Progressive Ears forum last week: would it be possible (without much development work) to add 'partial quoting' to the forums? What PE has is a mechanism that allows you to select a part of someone else's post using your mouse - then click 'Quote' and only the selected piece gets quoted. Very useful in long discussions!

A quick solution to that is to quote someone normally and before you post, just manually delete the parts you don't wish to quote...

Example: I took out Bob's post as well as "Are you under stress, Bob?" from your original message.

With all due respect (Stern%20Smile), is it really that much more difficult?
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Points: 4659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 19:30
Has anyone else reported problems using the 'hyperlink' toolbar button when replying to posts?  I'm using Opera v9.01 and every time I try to insert a 
hyperlink the entire page I'm trying to link to gets inserted into the message and I can't post it.  This wasn't
happening before the forum upgrade.  I get the same problem when trying to add hyperlinks to PMs.

Also, word wrap doesn't seem to work in the new forum when using Opera.
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Points: 1494 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 18:15
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

I don't know if there are any people who are actually on 56k, but maybe someone came and was discouraged? It's always good to be considerate. And even if nobody with 56k ever comes here, it's still considerate to my scroll button and ease of reading.


Iván occasionally uses 56k dialup.

As for signature images, mine isn't that big, I've seen much bigger ones, so why you singled me out specifically, I have no idea...

I do understand your issue though.
I have too, and I didn't meant to be mean to you, those names were just ones I got from looking through a few threads randomly for large sigs (except for Rico's new one, which has annoyed me from the beginning), and it was actually your large Last.fm sig plus the picture that made it very noticable. I only wanted specific examples so it wasn't like those typical "some people" things that people do, which then makes no-one accountable, but I am by no means saying that those people are the only people or even the most egregious offendors (just now I have seen 3 people who are worse than who I mentioned). For loading, it's actually probably the animated gifs that are really killer, but at least they aren't such a pain to scroll past.
 
There is no reason that your sig should exceed 200 pixels high, much less the 400-ish (and sometimes more!)monstrosities. Seriously, it's not that hard to resize images. Hell, I'll do it for you if you don't know how.
 
I don't see why it's a tech more than an admin issue, except that you wouldn't want to bother PMing people to tell them to change their sigs. I understand that. But it is the admins who make the rules and who enforce them. Max of course has the final say, but that doesn't mean he has to expressly tell you to start every rule.
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 18:01
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Are you under stress, Bob? Clown

 
Whatever makes you say that?DeadLOL
 
I also like the selected quoting idea, it would be useful.


Whatever? Whoever you mean - a certain Mr. Belew will be able to fill you in on the details.Wink


Thanks for supporting the suggestion! Thumbs%20Up
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 17:32
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

I don't know if there are any people who are actually on 56k, but maybe someone came and was discouraged? It's always good to be considerate. And even if nobody with 56k ever comes here, it's still considerate to my scroll button and ease of reading.


Iván occasionally uses 56k dialup.

As for signature images, mine isn't that big, I've seen much bigger ones, so why you singled me out specifically, I have no idea...

I do understand your issue though.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 17:16
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Are you under stress, Bob? Clown

 
Whatever makes you say that?DeadLOL
 
I also like the selected quoting idea, it would be useful.
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Points: 8036 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 16:37
I agree, 'partial quoting' is necessary.
 
Though it won't save us from exteremely long and hard-to-read 'multi-quoting' posts loved by some of our fellows. Smile
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Points: 13536 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 15:18
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Maybe this also doesn't belong here, but I noticed it in on Progressive Ears forum last week: would it be possible (without much development work) to add 'partial quoting' to the forums? What PE has is a mechanism that allows you to select a part of someone else's post using your mouse - then click 'Quote' and only the selected piece gets quoted. Very useful in long discussions!


Indeed! I like your idea, Angelo. Thumbs%20Up
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 12:11
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I repeat, it's not an issue for the Admin team.  [...snip...]


Are you under stress, Bob? Clown

Maybe this also doesn't belong here, but I noticed it in on Progressive Ears forum last week: would it be possible (without much development work) to add 'partial quoting' to the forums? What PE has is a mechanism that allows you to select a part of someone else's post using your mouse - then click 'Quote' and only the selected piece gets quoted. Very useful in long discussions!
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 11:02
I repeat, it's not an issue for the Admin team. There is nothing in the rules banning large signatures, and the rules would not be the place to enforce any policy which did restrict them. that is far better done through technical restrictions. M@x is the site owner and the webmaster. It is up to him what graphics he chooses to allow on the site.
 
The Admin team are happy to take issues to him where there is a ground-swell of opinion about an issue.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not perceive that a lot of people feel that size of the signatures are a major issue.
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Points: 1494 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 10:35
There's a difference between asking someone to change who they are online, and asking someone to be considerate to everyone around them. Except if who they are is being inconsiderate to everyone, then they should change, or be forcibly ejected. Moderators claim they can enforce courtesy rules in posting for the better good of everyone, I don't see why stupid signatures that are 10 times longer than your post (and sometimes are mostly white space!) should be any different. If I wanted to see a picture of that guy or a cat, I would Google it!
 
To be honest, "If you don't like it just leave" is a really weak defense, especially for something like this. I like this site, it's one of the better ones around, but I think there are ways that it could be better. I can deal with it, it's not that much more annoying than the constant graphic emoticons that are thrown about (I loved people's reactions to my old sig about that. Clearly, these things are important enough to bring out the best in people). But that doesn't make it right or good.
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Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Yes, you could. Post a sticky that says "No sigs can be larger than 400x80", give people some time to comply, and if they don't force edit their sigs or ban them or something (you can do that, right?).

Since when has listening to the majority helped? ;-) Rico's sig takes up three quarters of my freaking page, and I'm on 1200x800 resolution! micky's and some others are almost as bad! Besides that it's obnoxiously raping my scroll button, imagine what it's doing to people on 56k! 56k averages 7kb/s, which means that it would take him 4.7 seconds to load just Rico's sig once. If micky, Rico, and Geck0 each posted on the same page twice, then that's a total of 22 seconds of completely superflous loading time just for their images. I'm not even counting their Last.fm sigs because I didn't bother to do the math. That really adds up if you're trying to browse multiple pages. I don't mean to single them out, they're just big ones that caught my eye. There are other people with larger file size sigs than that because they're animated gifs.
 
I don't know if there are any people who are actually on 56k, but maybe someone came and was discouraged? It's always good to be considerate. And even if nobody with 56k ever comes here, it's still considerate to my scroll button and ease of reading.


I guess that is just the difference in people...

after I destroyed my high speed modem against the wall last year.. I suffered through dial-up, too ashamed  to tell the cable company that the modem they gave me was in pieces and ask for a replacement LOL...

I know exactly of what you speak there G2... the difference is... some accept it... wouldn't think of asking others to change their profiles or their manner of posting... on their account.  If the site and the way it is bothers me... I don't visit it.. simple as that. For me, I waited ... if but impatiently at times hahhaha... for the pages to load.
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I just adblock big pictures.  Or anything that annoys me (for example, pictures of cats).  

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Yes, you could. Post a sticky that says "No sigs can be larger than 400x80", give people some time to comply, and if they don't force edit their sigs or ban them or something (you can do that, right?).

Since when has listening to the majority helped? ;-) Rico's sig takes up three quarters of my freaking page, and I'm on 1200x800 resolution! micky's and some others are almost as bad! Besides that it's obnoxiously raping my scroll button, imagine what it's doing to people on 56k! 56k averages 7kb/s, which means that it would take him 4.7 seconds to load just Rico's sig once. If micky, Rico, and Geck0 each posted on the same page twice, then that's a total of 22 seconds of completely superflous loading time just for their images. I'm not even counting their Last.fm sigs because I didn't bother to do the math. That really adds up if you're trying to browse multiple pages. I don't mean to single them out, they're just big ones that caught my eye. There are other people with larger file size sigs than that because they're animated gifs.
 
I don't know if there are any people who are actually on 56k, but maybe someone came and was discouraged? It's always good to be considerate. And even if nobody with 56k ever comes here, it's still considerate to my scroll button and ease of reading.


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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 11:00
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

I would like the admins to crack down on the giant f**king image sigs. It's not nice for people on 56k (I'm not, but some are, and it would absolutely rape them), and there's really no need for us to see a huge picture of some band or musician or something that you like after every one of your posts. Hell, even most Last.fm sigs are too large, don't they have smaller designs? They should at least, some of this is just getting obnoxious.
 
Not an "Admin" issue G2, we can do nothing about it. M@x would need to inhibit through coding changes.
 
Clearly many people feel they are a good thing though.
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