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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toroddfuglesteg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 11:35
Btw. Guy. I spoke to a sailor from one of the ferries in a pub at Mallaig harbour yesterday and he told me you are going to release a live DVD and a live CD in October. Would you care to elaborate on that....... ?    
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>>Thank people who dig your music, take what constructive criticism there might be to get, and brush off the rest
 
Best bit of constructive advice I 've read for quite a while...
 
I actually correct positive reviews too, btw
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 08:45
PMing people to "correct" their negative reviews is handling it extremely well? Just because you can justify an action doesn't mean it's the correct course.
 
Thank people who dig your music, take what constructive criticism there might be to get, and brush off the rest. There was evidence, which Rafael clearly identified in his case and is being proactive in a non-confrontational way. It makes me want to buy his album. For good or for bad, I already spent my money on yours.
 
 
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GuyM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 08:35
Sorry, I don't whine
You obviously don't get it and you never will I think.
So forget it....... I am simply wasting my time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 08:09
Originally posted by GuyM GuyM wrote:

Thanks to SNOW DOG...a voice of reason Big smile

There is indeed a great deal of difference between being DIRECTLY accused by NAME of a crime you did not commit on the basis of NO EVIDENCE at all or being the victim of a crime by association - I can assure you!!
 
>>Rafael responded exactly as I would expected someone not involved to respond
Negoba seems to imply that because I got very upset with the site, I WAS somehow involved...ludicrous assumption, sorry....you'd better report after class to Prof. Sprout... Ouch
 
I got pissed off out of frustration, out of a sense of bleedin' injustice and a sadness at the coordinated bigotry I was witnessing. I am sorry if this was not what you wanted from me, I'm just a sensitive soul I guess...
I think I handled it extremely well under those circumstances...Cool

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Dude I dropped it, and here you are back whining some more. You handled it badly. I said multiple times that I actually thought you had NO direct involvement. Self righteous anger doesn't make you tough or sensitive. "Bleedin' injustice," "coordinated bigotry" --- GMAFB.
 
  
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GuyM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 07:54
Thanks to SNOW DOG...a voice of reason Big smile

There is indeed a great deal of difference between being DIRECTLY accused by NAME of a crime you did not commit on the basis of NO EVIDENCE at all or being the victim of a crime by association - I can assure you!!
 
>>Rafael responded exactly as I would expected someone not involved to respond
Negoba seems to imply that because I got very upset with the site, I WAS somehow involved...ludicrous assumption, sorry....you'd better report after class to Prof. Sprout... Ouch
 
I got pissed off out of frustration, out of a sense of bleedin' injustice and a sadness at the coordinated bigotry I was witnessing. I am sorry if this was not what you wanted from me, I'm just a sensitive soul I guess...
I think I handled it extremely well under those circumstances...Cool

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Originally posted by Dreamrafa Dreamrafa wrote:

Hi guys, just wanted to let you know i found a similar case of what happend with the rating of my band Echoes, this one is for other band ratings:
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=31732

1 starsTINYFISH The Big Red Spark(rating only)
1 starsEPHEMERAL SUN Harvest Aorta(rating only)
1 starsUZ JSME DOMA Jeskyne (Caves)(rating only)
1 starsPERSEPHONE'S DREAM Pan: An Urban Pastoral(rating only)
1 starsGALLEON In The Wake Of The Moon(rating only)
1 starsLUCIFER WAS The Crown Of Creation(rating only)
1 starsSOUL ENEMA Thin Ice Crawling(rating only)
1 starsSTICK MEN Soup(rating only)
1 starsECHOES Nature/Existence(rating only)
1 starsTHE PSYCHEDELIC ENSEMBLE The Myth of Dying(rating only)
1 starsRESISTOR Rise(rating only)
1 starsFROGG CAFÉ Bateless Edge(rating only)
1 starsENSLAVED Axioma Ethica Odini(rating only)
1 starsAREKNAMÉS In Case of Loss..(rating only)
5 starsDELUSION SQUARED Delusion Squared | review
I guess fans do that a lot...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2011 at 02:39
Review of Trespass by cjrutty:
 
I think that it is not a bad idea to give some background information about anything that has to do with the album, but I cannot read anything about the music. Maybe it's a good idea to start a thread about this, but this "review" should be split up in a rating and a topic.
 
Edit: Part of the content can also be found here.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dreamrafa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 17:23
Hi guys, just wanted to let you know i found a similar case of what happend with the rating of my band Echoes, this one is for other band ratings:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=31732

1 starsTINYFISH The Big Red Spark(rating only)
1 starsEPHEMERAL SUN Harvest Aorta(rating only)
1 starsUZ JSME DOMA Jeskyne (Caves)(rating only)
1 starsPERSEPHONE'S DREAM Pan: An Urban Pastoral(rating only)
1 starsGALLEON In The Wake Of The Moon(rating only)
1 starsLUCIFER WAS The Crown Of Creation(rating only)
1 starsSOUL ENEMA Thin Ice Crawling(rating only)
1 starsSTICK MEN Soup(rating only)
1 starsECHOES Nature/Existence(rating only)
1 starsTHE PSYCHEDELIC ENSEMBLE The Myth of Dying(rating only)
1 starsRESISTOR Rise(rating only)
1 starsFROGG CAFÉ Bateless Edge(rating only)
1 starsENSLAVED Axioma Ethica Odini(rating only)
1 starsAREKNAMÉS In Case of Loss..(rating only)
5 starsDELUSION SQUARED Delusion Squared | review

I guess fans do that a lot...

Best regards!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 07:58
i guess we should just get on with reviewing and leave the accusations out. That seems to be the safest method.
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How is the boxed set concept work in progress I'd Kill You (But that would be too quick) going Snowie?
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

^ he'da been rippin' throats

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^ he'da been rippin' throats
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 13:34
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Had Guy responded in the manner of Rafael, things would have been very different. IMO, Rafael responded exactly as I would expected someone not involved to respond.
 
Guy may or may not be involved in his album's similar issues, but he either way he didn't handle it well.

Rubbish. Guy was openly accused of manipulation in an open forum. How do you expect him to react? All he asked for was evidence.
Not sure I would have been as restrained as Guy.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Welcome Rafael - no need to apologise, as you say, you cannot be responsible for how others act. Yes, it is a shame that some fans behave in this way - they think they are helping the band but unfortunately all it does is encourage low ratings in revenge. Hopefully by acting quickly this time I have prevented such retaliations against your album.


Thanks Dean!, thats exactly what i thought, that behavior will do us more harm than help...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 08:55
Had Guy responded in the manner of Rafael, things would have been very different. IMO, Rafael responded exactly as I would expected someone not involved to respond.
 
Guy may or may not be involved in his album's similar issues, but he either way he didn't handle it well.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 03:34
Good news for Guy. Seems like he could be innocent after all.
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Originally posted by Dreamrafa Dreamrafa wrote:


Hello!, I'm a member of Echoes, and i find this very sad... Let me asure you that the band is not involved on this kind of things... We do published a link to progarchives on several venezuelan forums / facebook etc.. to get  ratings and reviews from local fans, but we didnt expected this behavior and we feel very ashamed by this... Of course we cannot be responsible for the actions of that user (or users), still i personally ask to all of you an apollogize...

Best regards!
Welcome Rafael - no need to apologise, as you say, you cannot be responsible for how others act. Yes, it is a shame that some fans behave in this way - they think they are helping the band but unfortunately all it does is encourage low ratings in revenge. Hopefully by acting quickly this time I have prevented such retaliations against your album.
What?
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

This one is even more fun

15 ratings/reviews total 

Showing last 50 only, select sub-genre in chart above to list all rating in that sub-genre.
1 starsTHE PSYCHEDELIC ENSEMBLE The Myth of Dying(rating only)
1 starsCICCADA A Child in the Mirror(rating only)
1 starsHAKEN Aquarius(rating only)
1 starsFROGG CAFÉ Bateless Edge(rating only)
1 starsIL TEMPIO DELLE CLESSIDRE Il Tempio delle Clessidre(rating only)
1 starsLUNATIC SOUL Lunatic Soul II(rating only)
1 starsALL OVER EVERYWHERE Inner Firmaments Decay(rating only)
1 starsKAIPA In The Wake Of Evolution(rating only)
1 starsYUGEN Iridule(rating only)
1 starsSKY ARCHITECT Excavations of the Mind(rating only)
1 starsHYPNOS 69 Legacy(rating only)
1 starsUNIVERS ZERO Clivages(rating only)
5 starsECHOES Nature/Existence(rating only)
1 starsEPHEMERAL SUN Harvest Aorta(rating only)
1 starsSHAOLIN DEATH SQUAD Five Deadly Venoms(rating only)


http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32212
 
[Firstly - anyone here accusing Echoes of conspiring to rig the ratings? Or can we assume this is a lone gun man operating out of a book depository in ... erm...(looks up user's IP address on IP2Location)... Venezuela?]
 
Right - now we're getting somewhere. In itself there is nothing "against the rules" in what that user has done here - morally wrong and a bit naughty by all means, but not illegal as such - it could be genuine - he really could have listened to all 15 albums and only liked one of them.
 
Yes, we can all see that is very probably not the truth of the matter, and he is deliberately smacking all those albums above his beloved Echoes CD in the Top 100 chart, and we can guess with a high degree of certainty that he hasn't heard all of the other 14, possibly even any of them. But we cannot PROVE that.
 
 
However, A quick IP check and it seems that this user has two accounts:
 
 
That's what I call conclusive proof of deliberate manipulation.
 
Guilty as charged - off with his head.
 
Not difficult is it? Stern Smile
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Nice job.


Hello!, I'm a member of Echoes, and i find this very sad... Let me asure you that the band is not involved on this kind of things... We do published a link to progarchives on several venezuelan forums / facebook etc.. to get  ratings and reviews from local fans, but we didnt expected this behavior and we feel very ashamed by this... Of course we cannot be responsible for the actions of that user (or users), still i personally ask to all of you an apollogize...

Best regards!
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=282801

Even when I don't fully agree with the form of the review, I completely agree with the position, Rush (Or the label) is trying to steal money from naive but faithful fans.

I'm tired of the bands releasing endless collections with the same tracks, yes, all are god, but they want to suck the blood from the faithful fan

In the case of Rush it's worst:

  1. Chronicles has all but one of the tracks
  2. Retrospective the same
  3. The Spirit of Radio (Greatest Hits) is basically the same and even better
  4. Rush Gold idem
  5. Working Men (Also another useless compilation album)
  6. Of course in 2010 they had to release Icon
Well guys, enough is enough, if they are unable to release a great album in the last decade, is time to live from concerts and stop trying to take us for fools who buy the same music with a different cover.

It's offensive

Iván

My wife bought me it for Christmas. Why are you so mean?
 
Hey it would be OK as a gift for the packaging and completionists like myself.
 
I wrote a review similar to that one and didn't get reported nor did Conor Fynes - We both gave it one star.... the difference between our reviews and the one above is his was more passionate and didnt hold back the anger and frustration of a useless compilation designed to bleed dry the already satiated Rush compilation clones market!
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