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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:42
According to this article Tour cyclists consume about 6000 calories per day during competition.  Thats alot of cheeseburger. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:26
Reading on Facebook of people throwing their burgers away. Now that is disgusting.

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Because of a comment I left my nephews wife will feed them to a cat. That's better anyway.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:06
True - many years ago, my mother was told by her doctor that if she wanted to lose weight the best & most foolproof way was to eat exactly what she ate everyday, but just less of it.

There is no correlation between vegetarianism & health; lifestyle/moderation & health, certainly, but eating meat or otherwise makes no difference.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 05:56
^ the point being that unhealthy eaters are not unhealthy because the eat too much meat, they are unhealthy because they eat too much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 05:25
^yup, when you consider Oreo's are a qualifying vegan food, it makes sense that obese vegans, while not the norm, can and do exist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 04:12
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Oh, not again!

Threads always turn into huge ass arguments


Considering the potential for foolish trolling this subject matter presents, the thread has thus far been very mild mannered. I still have not seen the jerky reply, "for every animal you don't eat, I will eat two."

At this point most clinical data will point out that animal proteins are easily substituted with vegetable protein, primarily from legumes. Is it as tasty? Well, all depends on the consumer and the preparer. Do I have a problem with the consumption of either. It is also becoming apparent that the quantity of protein required in a healthy diet has been greatly overestimated. We know from liver failure patients that have difficulty digesting protein that the body can function on very little protein.

I think we have reached the point that the key is not what we consume, but how it is produced. The meat factory mass production practices that have been so pervasive in the last 50 years are unsustainable, as are monoculture that leaches soil of nutrients and require artificial fertilization.

I fully support meat eaters and vegetarians. Both can be done in a conscientious and sustainable manner. Buy locally from a source that you know what practices are used.
I agree with you that it is not what we consume but how it is produced. I'd also add how it is consumed. Timothy's comment about overgrazing applies to all food groups and of those carbohydrates are just as problematic as proteins and fats. We have a problem with the consumption of everything, not just protein, so cutting or controlling just one is not a solution - balance and restraint is the solution. There are obese vegans, vegetarians and omnivores - potatoes, cakes, bread, sugars (inc. honey), pulses, chocolate, pasta, rice all make you fat if you eat too much, the average BigMac meal contains very little meat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:43
I'm more impressed by Tesco's burgers than I thought I was - it says the sample tested contained 29% horse meat - I'm surprised they contained that much meat.
 
On holiday last year the good lady wife turned her nose up at Steak Haché œufs à Cheval on the menu in every café we dined at even after repeated attempts to explain it was beef not horse and just means "on horseback" just like devils on horseback and pigs on horseback.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:43
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ady Cardiac Ady Cardiac wrote:

alot of talk on the news this morning about horsemeat found in burgers this morning.....pah.......not that bothered......ya its worrying that its only just been found out so where are those who are suppose to keep an eye on what goes in?.....i'm not that bothered as i'll try anything once......i've eaten various meats over the years and i've never tried horsemeat.....i'd give it a go.

My friend is from Witney. Looks like a lovely place.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:40
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Of course, it does help if you actually know what meat you're eating...

Dean made a reference to cultural differences earlier - in France/Belgium/Holland, this story would only be about burgers not containing what they say they do, but over here, there's an outcry... "HORSE! WE DON'T EAT HORSE IN ENGLAND!"

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Interesting language used, too - "contaminated" with horse-meat; surely a contamination infers containing a substance hazardous to health

We seem to get hysterical about these sort of things here. What are we animals?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:38
Originally posted by Ady Cardiac Ady Cardiac wrote:

alot of talk on the news this morning about horsemeat found in burgers this morning.....pah.......not that bothered......ya its worrying that its only just been found out so where are those who are suppose to keep an eye on what goes in?.....i'm not that bothered as i'll try anything once......i've eaten various meats over the years and i've never tried horsemeat.....i'd give it a go.

My friend is from Witney. Looks like a lovely place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:34
alot of talk on the news this morning about horsemeat found in burgers this morning.....pah.......not that bothered......ya its worrying that its only just been found out so where are those who are suppose to keep an eye on what goes in?.....i'm not that bothered as i'll try anything once......i've eaten various meats over the years and i've never tried horsemeat.....i'd give it a go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:27
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I never wanted to read about bees. Or know that you kept them.

I never wanted to know that you wanted to kick a duck up it 's ass but every time you post I have to see it. Of course it does not surprise me seeing where it comes from.

It's a quote that I've been waiting to see if someone solves the source. But hey, it's just dandy your opinion of me is so high. I'll see if I can think the worse of you from now on...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:05
Of course, it does help if you actually know what meat you're eating...

Dean made a reference to cultural differences earlier - in France/Belgium/Holland, this story would only be about burgers not containing what they say they do, but over here, there's an outcry... "HORSE! WE DON'T EAT HORSE IN ENGLAND!"

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Interesting language used, too - "contaminated" with horse-meat; surely a contamination infers containing a substance hazardous to health

Edited by Jim Garten - January 16 2013 at 03:06

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 22:09
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Oh, not again!

Threads always turn into huge ass arguments


Considering the potential for foolish trolling this subject matter presents, the thread has thus far been very mild mannered. I still have not seen the jerky reply, "for every animal you don't eat, I will eat two."

At this point most clinical data will point out that animal proteins are easily substituted with vegetable protein, primarily from legumes. Is it as tasty? Well, all depends on the consumer and the preparer. Do I have a problem with the consumption of either. It is also becoming apparent that the quantity of protein required in a healthy diet has been greatly overestimated. We know from liver failure patients that have difficulty digesting protein that the body can function on very little protein.

I think we have reached the point that the key is not what we consume, but how it is produced. The meat factory mass production practices that have been so pervasive in the last 50 years are unsustainable, as are monoculture that leaches soil of nutrients and require artificial fertilization.

I fully support meat eaters and vegetarians. Both can be done in a conscientious and sustainable manner.  Buy locally from a source that you know what practices are used. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 20:55
^Try cucumber.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 20:36
I have an $800 gas grill in the backyard. Let me tell you, lettuce does not cook well on it.

Edited by The Dark Elf - January 15 2013 at 20:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 19:09
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I never wanted to read about bees. Or know that you kept them.

I never wanted to know that you wanted to kick a duck up it 's ass but every time you post I have to see it. Of course it does not surprise me seeing where it comes from.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 17:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2013 at 17:16
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Oh, not again!

Threads always turn into huge ass arguments

No they don't


Mine do

The irony escaped you.Clown
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