stop the "Neo" prog label ?

Tom Ozric wrote: If you ask me (which no-one has....) I say that I.Q. (and/or) Marillion are what Genesis should've sounded like in the 80's, had Gabriel and Hackett not bailed and have Disney Collins lead the remnants to the commercial slaughterhouse of the babbling masses...........give me 'The Wake' over 'Invisible Douche' anyday.......

I would place all of IQ's output over Genesis after W&W, and who wouldn't - Genesis decided that their old fans should be consigned to history and set about entertaining a whole lot of teeny boppers whilst trousering huge wads of cash.......Which was then extracted from Coliins by a series of ever younger short term wives...ho hum....

Tom Ozric wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^Give me both. Give me 'Genesis' from 1983, or even 'We Can't Dance' over I.T. anyday.  I worship Genesis, 'Domino' was the only worthwhile piece that was remotely Proggy on I.T.

Genesis didn't work hard. That's a good one. Ok, stop bashing Genesis now.

Now, Tom, Banks and Rutherford clearly walked hand in hand with Tarzan Collins into that `commercial slaughterhouse' together...probably skipping, too!

Man, `The Wake'! Perfect example of how good and original great `Neo-Prog' can be....I love that almost New-Wave vocal Nicholls uses on that album, really gives it a lot of unique identity. Very individual and original sounding album from them!

If you ask me (which no-one has....) I say that I.Q. (and/or) Marillion are what Genesis should've sounded like in the 80's, had Gabriel and Hackett not bailed and have Disney Collins lead the remnants to the commercial slaughterhouse of the babbling masses...........give me 'The Wake' over 'Invisible Douche' anyday.......

octopus-4 wrote: Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote: Always a pleasure guys! I really can't be bothered going on about this anymore! Just take a search on Google and you'll find endless comments/reviews that have come to the same conclusions about the similarites! It wasn't me who just all of a sudden cracked the code and came up with this `controversial' opinion! To my ears, from the VERY FIRST LISTEN I thought `Hmmm, that's a shame they stuck to the Genesis/Suppers Ready' template there', so it's odd that on REPEATED listens you still can't detect it! Either way, `Dark Matter' is a terrific album, and a few slight influences from a band they obviously love is totally insignificant. And honestly, I don't have deodorant strong enough to last me the length it will take to reach an amicable conclusion over this matter, which is truly nearing the `beating a dead horse' stage! If anything, time to get back to the original topic instead of pointless stubbornness that's going around in circles! If you think I am simply being stubborn then I am little disappointed in you. Oh well,  live and let live. Oh man, I just don't want this blowing up into `a thing'! The Archives the last few days has been awful with all this tension, so we don't need more of that. I come here to get AWAY from tension and drama! More of this would be better! --> The Souls have been harvested,the supper was ready so Grendel has eaten it

^What tension? In this thread?

Edited by Snow Dog - January 21 2013 at 05:37

Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote: Always a pleasure guys! I really can't be bothered going on about this anymore! Just take a search on Google and you'll find endless comments/reviews that have come to the same conclusions about the similarites! It wasn't me who just all of a sudden cracked the code and came up with this `controversial' opinion! To my ears, from the VERY FIRST LISTEN I thought `Hmmm, that's a shame they stuck to the Genesis/Suppers Ready' template there', so it's odd that on REPEATED listens you still can't detect it! Either way, `Dark Matter' is a terrific album, and a few slight influences from a band they obviously love is totally insignificant. And honestly, I don't have deodorant strong enough to last me the length it will take to reach an amicable conclusion over this matter, which is truly nearing the `beating a dead horse' stage! If anything, time to get back to the original topic instead of pointless stubbornness that's going around in circles!

Edited by Snow Dog - January 21 2013 at 05:34

Always a pleasure guys!

I really can't be bothered going on about this anymore! Just take a search on Google and you'll find endless comments/reviews that have come to the same conclusions about the similarites! It wasn't me who just all of a sudden cracked the code and came up with this `controversial' opinion!

To my ears, from the VERY FIRST LISTEN I thought `Hmmm, that's a shame they stuck to the Genesis/Suppers Ready' template there', so it's odd that on REPEATED listens you still can't detect it!

Either way, `Dark Matter' is a terrific album, and a few slight influences from a band they obviously love is totally insignificant.

And honestly, I don't have deodorant strong enough to last me the length it will take to reach an amicable conclusion over this matter, which is truly nearing the `beating a dead horse' stage!

If anything, time to get back to the original topic instead of pointless stubbornness that's going around in circles!

Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote: Sigh! I always thought the similarities between the two were in the following sections: IQ's `First of the Last' sounds somewhat similar to `Lover's Leap', especially those guitars that start at about 2:35. Parts of `The Wrong Host' sound like sections of `The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man' The section of `Mortal Procession' that starts at 17:50 sounds just like `Gods of Magog' parts of `Apocalypse in 9/8' The outro organ/guitar solo of `Ghosts of Days' sounds rather similar to the final moments of `As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs'. I'm sure there are others who've picked up other little similarities that I've missed? !